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Pervinca Took · 08-07-2018, 04:04 AM

I liked the Bombadil's boots icon when you declared Iarwain Ben-Adar to be correct.

Well, if the password reflects the theme ...

... the origins of these beings are unknown or hidden, and the password is so well-hidden that we will never find that either? Or it is simply unknown?

Nerwen · 08-07-2018, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I liked the Bombadil's boots icon when you declared Iarwain Ben-Adar to be correct.

Well, if the password reflects the theme ...

... the origins of these beings are unknown or hidden, and the password is so well-hidden that we will never find that either? Or it is simply unknown?

That would be clever of me! No, it's just a set of connected letters.

Pervinca Took · 08-07-2018, 05:37 AM

OK ... so do we count a space or a hyphen when looking for the password, or do we pretend the space or hyphen is not there?

Nerwen · 08-07-2018, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

OK ... so do we count a space or a hyphen when looking for the password, or do we pretend the space or hyphen is not there?

Pretend it's not there.

Pervinca Took · 08-07-2018, 06:23 AM

I can't find anything at all - have even tried the corners and every word in elvish for hidden or concealed.

There is another being of unknown origin - the WATCHER in the water, which could be highlighted in 'Silent Watchers,' but ....

Nerwen · 08-07-2018, 06:51 AM

Nope, sorry.

Huinesoron · 08-07-2018, 07:39 AM

Well, if you read the third letter from the end from right to left, you get 'ARM DEN'... I'm sure we could come up with a convoluted explanation!

It's interesting, though presumably coincidence, that the first three answers are all the same length.

hS

EDIT: Diagonally right from the first 'E' in Nameless things gets you 'ENIGMT'... is the password 'ENIGMA'? If you bounce off the S in Were-Worms you do hit Ungoliant's A.

Nerwen · 08-07-2018, 08:06 AM

ENIGMA is correct. It slants down from left to right, then left for the final A.

NAMELESS THINGS: Earth's anonymous gourmands.
SILENT WATCHERS: Mordor's misnamed alarms.
IARWAIN BEN-ADAR: Bewildering- me, in a conflict? What would my dad say, if I had one?
GOTHMOG: Emo feline at the Pelennor.
WERE-WORMS: ...but are they worms now?
UNGOLIANT: Emaciated king of beasts confused for even more ravenous predator.

Theme: Beings of unknown nature.

Well done, Huey!

Huinesoron · 08-07-2018, 08:20 AM

I feel like we just spend longer on finding the password than on most of the clues... well done!

1. - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

hS

Pervinca Took · 08-07-2018, 10:42 AM

1. Sheep, spied by the Great Eagles in 'The Hobbit?'

Huinesoron · 08-07-2018, 02:46 PM

Not sheep, no eagles, and not from The Hobbit.

hS

Pervinca Took · 08-07-2018, 02:58 PM

Hobbits, with the Rangers as the hunters?

Huinesoron · 08-08-2018, 02:30 AM

Not that either.

I should mention that all the clues except #6 include a direct cryptic clue to the full name I'm after, and all of them also have a straight clue.

hS

Nerwen · 08-08-2018, 04:23 AM

Is it significant that #8 has "chloride" not "chlorine"?

Huinesoron · 08-08-2018, 04:26 AM

It is absolutely significant.

hS

Pervinca Took · 08-08-2018, 04:40 AM

Just a guess at MITHEITHEL for 3.

Mit = German for 'with.'
He x 2 for 'boys.'
It's a flower (river).
It's in Middle-earth (mortal lands) or within ML (although that uses the M twice).

(P.S. Well done finding 'Enigma,' and thanks to Nerwen for a great puzzle!)

Nerwen · 08-08-2018, 04:40 AM

Then is it (#8) DORTHONION? ("Door'th on ion"). Former name of Taur-nu-fuin, the Forest Under Nightshade.

Huinesoron · 08-08-2018, 06:17 AM

1. - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

Dorthonion for exactly the reason Nerwen said. Pervinca, sadly no on Mitheithel, though that's a fantastic answer!

The 'mortal lands' are much smaller than the entirety of Middle-earth in this case.

hS

Huinesoron · 08-13-2018, 02:04 AM

Perhaps a hint... all 8 clues are place-names, and all except #5 are in Sindarin. #6 is probably going to be the hardest, because it's an obscure variant of a fairly obscure place.

Um... and every clue except #6 either includes a sound-alike of the answer, or constructs it from synonyms. No anagrams are required.

hS

Pervinca Took · 08-13-2018, 05:59 AM

The Turin one isn't Gurthang, then.

Just a shot in the dark ... DAGORLAD for the password?

Huinesoron · 08-13-2018, 07:16 AM

No and no, though you're right that 'Turin held' is the straight clue on #4.

hS

Pervinca Took · 08-13-2018, 08:12 AM

Maybe Gil-Galad?

Huinesoron · 08-13-2018, 08:27 AM

Also not Gil-Galad.

(Are you just guessing any 8-letter word ending in D because the clues are too convoluted?)

hS

Pervinca Took · 08-13-2018, 08:36 AM

At first I thought the password might be another place, and Estolad is too short.

Then I wondered if the places might all be connected with Gil-Galad.

But I have tried to solve all the clues and failed.

Pervinca Took · 08-13-2018, 08:39 AM

For instance, I think 3 should have 'blumen' in it. But I don't blumen know what else. Guys/lads doesn't combine to make anything meaningful.

And sol is the only synonym for sun I can think of (Turin clue).

Huinesoron · 08-13-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

For instance, I think 3 should have 'blumen' in it. But I don't blumen know what else. Guys/lads doesn't combine to make anything meaningful.

And sol is the only synonym for sun I can think of (Turin clue).

It's not Blumen; you need a specific flower. One of your 'boy' words is useful, though.

Sol is actually a step in the right direction, but Sol was a Roman god; I'd look in an older mythology if I was you.

hS

Nerwen · 08-14-2018, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

It's not Blumen; you need a specific flower. One of your 'boy' words is useful, though.

Sol is actually a step in the right direction, but Sol was a Roman god; I'd look in an older mythology if I was you.

hS

AMON RÛDH? (You know it's pronounced "ruth", not "rude", right?)

Huinesoron · 08-14-2018, 03:03 AM

1. - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

You're right, I should have said 'kind of rude', or even 'looks rude'. But Sindarin has never been my forte, and I kind of forgot. ^_^

hS

Pervinca Took · 08-14-2018, 03:57 AM

Bald hill ... but where's the sun?

Nerwen · 08-14-2018, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Bald hill ... but where's the sun?

Amon- as in Amon-Ra.

Nerwen · 08-14-2018, 09:09 AM

I think #1 refers to FAROTH, the "Hills of the Hunters", unless it's something that can be seen from that location- Amon Ethir, the "Hill of Spies"? Not quite sure how the elements of the clue fit together.

Nerwen · 08-14-2018, 09:27 AM

Oh, and if #2 is ERED WETHRIN...

Huinesoron · 08-14-2018, 09:28 AM

1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

As you say, the hunters are a straight clue, but you might also see the Hills of the Hunters from "FAROFF".

It probably works best if you know the Estuary English accent, which rejects the concept of 'th' entirely.

hS

Nerwen · 08-14-2018, 09:41 AM

#6 is UMBOTH MUILIN ("pools of twilight"), alternative name of Aelin-uial ("meres of twilight"), where Ulmo sent dreams to Turgon and Finrod.

Is the password FELAGUND?

Edit: Yes, I got the "far off" pun, but I wasn't sure how the clue worked.

Huinesoron · 08-14-2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

#6 is UMBOTH MUILIN ("pools of twilight"), alternative name of Aelin-uial ("meres of twilight"), where Ulmo sent dreams to Turgon and Finrod.

Is the password FELAGUND?

1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. E - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. L - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. G - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. UMBOTH MUILIN - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. N - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

That's the one(s)!

Quote:

Edit: Yes, I got the "far off" pun, but I wasn't sure how the clue worked.

Well, if I didn't make it clear already, the clue should be read as:

"You might spy [the location name under discussion] from[/in] FAR OFF | (but) the hunters would see you first [at this location]."

Cryptic, then straight.

hS

PS: I should note that Umboth Muilin/Aelin-uial doesn't quite 100% fit the theme. It probably did at some point in time, though. ~hS

Nerwen · 08-15-2018, 09:15 PM

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PS: I should note that Umboth Muilin/Aelin-uial doesn't quite 100% fit the theme. It probably did at some point in time, though. ~hS

Then what can the theme possibly be...?

Nerwen · 08-15-2018, 09:34 PM

Is #5 just the GUARDED PLAIN?

Huinesoron · 08-16-2018, 02:47 AM

1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. E - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. L - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. GUARDED PLAIN - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. UMBOTH MUILIN - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. N - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

As (mis)spelled out in the middle of the clue.

hS

Nerwen · 08-16-2018, 04:05 AM

I'd think #3 might be LADROS, but according to my sources the German for "rose" is simply "die Rose".

Pervinca Took · 08-16-2018, 04:12 AM

*In awe*

I really am rubbish at Silmarillion place-names. I thought of Felagund after Gil-Galad, but better the next password goes to someone who's actually guessed the clues.

08-07-2018, 04:04 AM	#4081
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I liked the Bombadil's boots icon when you declared Iarwain Ben-Adar to be correct. Well, if the password reflects the theme ... ... the origins of these beings are unknown or hidden, and the password is so well-hidden that we will never find that either? Or it is simply unknown? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-07-2018, 05:37 AM	#4083
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	OK ... so do we count a space or a hyphen when looking for the password, or do we pretend the space or hyphen is not there? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-07-2018, 06:23 AM	#4085
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I can't find anything at all - have even tried the corners and every word in elvish for hidden or concealed. There is another being of unknown origin - the WATCHER in the water, which could be highlighted in 'Silent Watchers,' but .... __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-07-2018, 06:51 AM	#4086
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Nope, sorry. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-07-2018, 07:39 AM	#4087
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	Well, if you read the third letter from the end from right to left, you get 'ARM DEN'... I'm sure we could come up with a convoluted explanation! It's interesting, though presumably coincidence, that the first three answers are all the same length. hS EDIT: Diagonally right from the first 'E' in Nameless things gets you 'ENIGMT'... is the password 'ENIGMA'? If you bounce off the S in Were-Worms you do hit Ungoliant's A. Last edited by Huinesoron; 08-07-2018 at 07:41 AM. Reason: A guess.

08-07-2018, 08:06 AM	#4088
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	ENIGMA is correct. It slants down from left to right, then left for the final A. NAMELESS THINGS: Earth's anonymous gourmands. SILENT WATCHERS: Mordor's misnamed alarms. IARWAIN BEN-ADAR: Bewildering- me, in a conflict? What would my dad say, if I had one? GOTHMOG: Emo feline at the Pelennor. WERE-WORMS: ...but are they worms now? UNGOLIANT: Emaciated king of beasts confused for even more ravenous predator. Theme: Beings of unknown nature. Well done, Huey! __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-07-2018, 08:20 AM	#4089
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	I feel like we just spend longer on finding the password than on most of the clues... well done! 1. - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first. 2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death. 3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands. 4. - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun. 5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming. 6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea. 7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round. 8. - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade. hS

08-07-2018, 10:42 AM	#4090
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	1. Sheep, spied by the Great Eagles in 'The Hobbit?' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-07-2018, 02:46 PM	#4091
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	Not sheep, no eagles, and not from The Hobbit. hS

08-07-2018, 02:58 PM	#4092
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Hobbits, with the Rangers as the hunters? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-08-2018, 02:30 AM	#4093
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	Not that either. I should mention that all the clues except #6 include a direct cryptic clue to the full name I'm after, and all of them also have a straight clue. hS

08-08-2018, 04:23 AM	#4094
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Is it significant that #8 has "chloride" not "chlorine"? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-08-2018, 04:26 AM	#4095
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	It is absolutely significant. hS

08-08-2018, 04:40 AM	#4096
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Just a guess at MITHEITHEL for 3. Mit = German for 'with.' He x 2 for 'boys.' It's a flower (river). It's in Middle-earth (mortal lands) or within ML (although that uses the M twice). (P.S. Well done finding 'Enigma,' and thanks to Nerwen for a great puzzle!) __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 08-08-2018 at 04:46 AM.

08-08-2018, 04:40 AM	#4097
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Then is it (#8) DORTHONION? ("Door'th on ion"). Former name of Taur-nu-fuin, the Forest Under Nightshade. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 08-08-2018 at 04:48 AM. Reason: added explanation.

08-08-2018, 06:17 AM	#4098
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	1. - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first. 2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death. 3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands. 4. - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun. 5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming. 6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea. 7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round. 8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade. Dorthonion for exactly the reason Nerwen said. Pervinca, sadly no on Mitheithel, though that's a fantastic answer! The 'mortal lands' are much smaller than the entirety of Middle-earth in this case. hS

08-13-2018, 02:04 AM	#4099
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	Perhaps a hint... all 8 clues are place-names, and all except #5 are in Sindarin. #6 is probably going to be the hardest, because it's an obscure variant of a fairly obscure place. Um... and every clue except #6 either includes a sound-alike of the answer, or constructs it from synonyms. No anagrams are required. hS

08-13-2018, 05:59 AM	#4100
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	The Turin one isn't Gurthang, then. Just a shot in the dark ... DAGORLAD for the password? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-13-2018, 07:16 AM	#4101
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	No and no, though you're right that 'Turin held' is the straight clue on #4. hS

08-13-2018, 08:12 AM	#4102
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Maybe Gil-Galad? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-13-2018, 08:27 AM	#4103
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	Also not Gil-Galad. (Are you just guessing any 8-letter word ending in D because the clues are too convoluted?) hS

08-13-2018, 08:36 AM	#4104
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	At first I thought the password might be another place, and Estolad is too short. Then I wondered if the places might all be connected with Gil-Galad. But I have tried to solve all the clues and failed. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-13-2018, 08:39 AM	#4105
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	For instance, I think 3 should have 'blumen' in it. But I don't blumen know what else. Guys/lads doesn't combine to make anything meaningful. And sol is the only synonym for sun I can think of (Turin clue). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-14-2018, 03:03 AM	#4108
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	1. - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first. 2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death. 3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands. 4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun. 5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming. 6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea. 7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round. 8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade. You're right, I should have said 'kind of rude', or even 'looks rude'. But Sindarin has never been my forte, and I kind of forgot. ^_^ hS

08-14-2018, 03:57 AM	#4109
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Bald hill ... but where's the sun? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-14-2018, 09:09 AM	#4111
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I think #1 refers to FAROTH, the "Hills of the Hunters", unless it's something that can be seen from that location- Amon Ethir, the "Hill of Spies"? Not quite sure how the elements of the clue fit together. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-14-2018, 09:27 AM	#4112
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Oh, and if #2 is ERED WETHRIN... __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-14-2018, 09:28 AM	#4113
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first. 2. - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death. 3. - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands. 4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun. 5. - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming. 6. - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea. 7. - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round. 8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade. As you say, the hunters are a straight clue, but you might also see the Hills of the Hunters from "FAROFF". It probably works best if you know the Estuary English accent, which rejects the concept of 'th' entirely. hS

08-14-2018, 09:41 AM	#4114
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	#6 is UMBOTH MUILIN ("pools of twilight"), alternative name of Aelin-uial ("meres of twilight"), where Ulmo sent dreams to Turgon and Finrod. Is the password FELAGUND? Edit: Yes, I got the "far off" pun, but I wasn't sure how the clue worked. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 08-14-2018 at 09:45 AM.

08-15-2018, 09:34 PM	#4117
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Is #5 just the GUARDED PLAIN? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-16-2018, 02:47 AM	#4118
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,900	1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first. 2. E - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death. 3. L - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands. 4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun. 5. GUARDED PLAIN - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming. 6. UMBOTH MUILIN - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea. 7. N - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round. 8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade. As (mis)spelled out in the middle of the clue. hS

08-16-2018, 04:05 AM	#4119
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I'd think #3 might be LADROS, but according to my sources the German for "rose" is simply "die Rose". __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-16-2018, 04:12 AM	#4120
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	In awe I really am rubbish at Silmarillion place-names. I thought of Felagund after Gil-Galad, but better the next password goes to someone who's actually guessed the clues. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."