New Members - Introduce Yourself Here - Page 103 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Faramir Jones · 03-20-2018, 08:46 AM

Good to have you back, Eldorion!

Rhun charioteer · 06-16-2018, 10:32 PM

I'm not a "new" member per se but I haven't introduced myself.

I was first introduced Tolkien and LOTR through the cartoon movies in the seventies and then Jackson's movies and I read the books six years later.

Anyway Tolkien's legendarium has since I was introduced to it been a passion of mine and I have always wanted to read and learn more about the wonderful world Tolkien created.

Inziladun · 06-17-2018, 02:41 PM

Well, welcome anyway, Rhun charioteer! You've already made some interesting contributions here.

Faramir Jones · 06-20-2018, 10:02 AM

As Inziladun said, welcome to you anyway, Rhun charioteer! Please don't worry about the delay in introducing yourself. I lurked for a long time before I decided to join, let alone make any contributions...

Merrymatt · 08-20-2018, 09:17 PM

Greetings and Bienvenue Fellow Tolkien Fans
My name is Matthew Rascoe or Merrymatt by others, I’m an aspiring comic/film writer and Tolkien has been a major hero for my entire reading life.

Pervinca Took · 08-20-2018, 11:06 PM

Welcome on board, Merrymatt!

Galadriel55 · 08-21-2018, 05:21 AM

Welcome, Merrymatt! I see you found the RPG subforum already. I hope you enjoy the rest of the site as well.

Huinesoron · 08-21-2018, 06:23 AM

Welcome, Merrymatt; I think you're the first actual new person to post on this thread since me, so doubly welcome!

hS

Merrymatt · 08-21-2018, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Welcome, Merrymatt! I see you found the RPG subforum already. I hope you enjoy the rest of the site as well.

I intend to spread my love of Tolkien throughout this forum

Galadriel55 · 09-08-2018, 07:30 PM

i want to welcome the [currently] newest member of our forum, Lobelia's Umbrella. I don't know who you are but your screen name is beautiful.

Pervinca Took · 09-09-2018, 03:31 AM

Indeed! A brilliant, hobbitty name. Welcome aboard, Lobelia's Umbrella.

Barandiun · 04-10-2020, 07:19 PM

Hi! My name is Tyler and I like hobbits. I'm TheGreatElvenWarrior's significant other.

Galadriel55 · 04-10-2020, 07:26 PM

Hi Tyler! Welcome to the Downs! Hope to see you around the forums in the coming days.

Do you prefer to use Tyler or Barandiun?

Urwen · 04-11-2020, 02:42 AM

Well, it seems I've never introduced myself either, so I'd like to remedy that. I am Marie aka Urwen, oldest child of Hurin, tamer of geese and lover of Meglin.

Pervinca Took · 04-11-2020, 12:50 PM

Welcome aboard, Baranduin/Tyler!

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 04-16-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Hi Tyler! Welcome to the Downs! Hope to see you around the forums in the coming days.

Do you prefer to use Tyler or Barandiun?

G55, I just asked, and Baranduin is great!

Imladviel · 10-20-2020, 11:28 AM

It's been a while...

I used to be a regular here in 2003ish... my username back then was Niphredil Baggins. I can't log in to that account because I made it with my university email. Not being an university student anymore (no, I didn't graduate, I dropped out), I don't have access to it.

I don't think anyone remembers me, and it might be better to make a new start anyways, as I have changed much from that constantly drunk chaotic half-hobbit persona I adopted.

I'm honestly surprised this place is still here!

Inziladun · 10-20-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Imladviel

I used to be a regular here in 2003ish... my username back then was Niphredil Baggins. I can't log in to that account because I made it with my university email. Not being an university student anymore (no, I didn't graduate, I dropped out), I don't have access to it.

I don't think anyone remembers me, and it might be better to make a new start anyways, as I have changed much from that constantly drunk chaotic half-hobbit persona I adopted.

Welcome back! I remember seeing you here and there, but that was during my own 'sabbatical'; I didn't really get back to regular visiting until 2008.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imladviel

I'm honestly surprised this place is still here!

It amazes me also. When I look back on where I was when I joined, and how much in RL has changed, that this place is still around is a great comfort to me.

Hope to see you more!

Imladviel · 10-21-2020, 07:04 AM

Thanks, Inziladun!

I realized I didn't actually tell anything about myself. I am almost 39 years old, I am owned by one cat, I live alone and am unemployed. I have also recently become an aunt!

I am in the risk groups for corona because of an illness, so I have decided to isolate myself as much as possible. This means I am at home a lot and getting bored, which is why I had the idea to see if this old haunt was still here.

Inziladun · 10-21-2020, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imladviel

I realized I didn't actually tell anything about myself. I am almost 39 years old, I am owned by one cat, I live alone and am unemployed. I have also recently become an aunt!

Congratulations on you Aunt status!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imladviel

I am in the risk groups for corona because of an illness, so I have decided to isolate myself as much as possible. This means I am at home a lot and getting bored, which is why I had the idea to see if this old haunt was still here.

Well, there's certainly a lot here to peruse. Just after the Covid onset there was an uptick of activity. I'm anticipating more when the Amazon LOTR series emerges.

Galadriel55 · 10-21-2020, 11:24 AM

Welcome back, Imladviel! Once a Downer, always a Downer?

I am too recently dead to have met you before, but looking forward to seeing you around!

Now that I think of it, I have been dead 10 years this month. 10 years, and it is still too recent. Also, several more years and I will have been on the Downs for longer than I lived without it. I am having a mid-death crisis, maybe.

Blind Guardian · 10-21-2020, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Imladviel

I have also recently become an aunt!

For some reason I read this as "I recently became an adult" and was very confused. I even reread it multiple times...

Anyways, welcome/welcome back!

Blind Guardian · 10-21-2020, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Now that I think of it, I have been dead 10 years this month. 10 years, and it is still too recent. Also, several more years and I will have been on the Downs for longer than I lived without it. I am having a mid-death crisis, maybe.

OMG me too! I was 13 when I first found the Downes, but I didn't make an account until I was 14. Now I'm 24... geeze time flies!

Galadriel55 · 10-21-2020, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

OMG me too! I was 13 when I first found the Downes, but I didn't make an account until I was 14. Now I'm 24... geeze time flies!

Same here, down to the years!

Except I made an account within the hour of finding the Downs at the tail end of 13 - never thinking I would need it for more than one post.

Hey! Let's celebrate the double digits this weekend. Throw a Downer skype party or something. Do a bit of favourite passage reading, play online 20 questions, tell Tolkien jokes. Downers used to do skype reads, maybe we can revive the tradition.

Imladviel · 10-22-2020, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Congratulations on you Aunt status!

Thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Welcome back, Imladviel! Once a Downer, always a Downer?

I am too recently dead to have met you before, but looking forward to seeing you around!

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

For some reason I read this as "I recently became an adult" and was very confused. I even reread it multiple times...

Anyways, welcome/welcome back!

I'm never going to be an adult.

Thank you!

araxhiel · 12-12-2020, 09:58 PM

Hi all!

My name is Anton, and although I was aware of this forum, I never registered before (yeah, procrastination is kinda strong).

I knew about TLotR since I was a kid, as where we used to rent movies they had a copy of the 1978 animated movie (but my mom never choose that to take home LOL). A decade later, Peter Jackson's movies happened, and that was my first real approach to Tolkien's work.

Unfortunately, the only book that I've read of this series was the Silmarillion (around 2003) and being honest, I had the intention to read the other books, but never read them (procrastination strikes again...).

This next year I'll try to correct that, as I have decided to read all the books (and that's also a personal goal for next year)... Although I'm kinda nervous, as I'm attempting to read them in English, instead a translated version (The Silmarillion that I read back then was a translated version).

P.S. Sorry for my grammar mistakes, even after all these years I still have a long feud with grammar/verbs.

Inziladun · 12-13-2020, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by araxhiel

Hi all!

Welcome, araxhiel!

Quote:

Originally Posted by araxhiel

Unfortunately, the only book that I've read of this series was the Silmarillion (around 2003) and being honest, I had the intention to read the other books, but never read them (procrastination strikes again...).

This next year I'll try to correct that, as I have decided to read all the books (and that's also a personal goal for next year)... Although I'm kinda nervous, as I'm attempting to read them in English, instead a translated version (The Silmarillion that I read back then was a translated version).

Well, as a native English speaker I can tell you that The Silmarillion is usually considered rather difficult for the average reader; LOTR (and especially The Hobbit) are considerably easier. Maybe, then, you've already done the hard part!

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Originally Posted by araxhiel

P.S. Sorry for my grammar mistakes, even after all these years I still have a long feud with grammar/verbs.

Your post is entirely understandable, and that's what matters.

Galadriel55 · 12-13-2020, 12:38 PM

Hello Araxhiel!

It's exciting to have new people join! Welcome to the Downs!

And join the Translated Tolkien club! I knew Tolkien exclusively in Russian for years before I ever read the English copy of the books. I find that I relate to them differently, they have a different feel. I tend to prefer The Sil, The Hobbit, Children of Hurin and the other smaller works in the original English, but have a very soft spot for the Muravyov-Kistyakovsky translation of LOTR. It's actually been years since I read LOTR in English, and was planning to do a cover-to-cover of that at some point. I think my point is, translations count too! And are equally fun to discuss, when you get a few people with bilingual Tolkien experience together.

Mithalwen · 12-13-2020, 05:21 PM

Hi, I have recently been adopted by very much non identical twin kittens. They don’t have Tolkien names unfortunately as I work with their mother’s person and got too used to their original names.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 12-14-2020, 10:37 AM

Far from new but it feels like a fresh start -- I could not remember my password for the Downs and could not find it saved on either of my computers! For several days I was entirely locked from my account, before finally finding my login information on my old phone.

So, that was close.

*re-engage lurk mode*

Rune Son of Bjarne · 12-14-2020, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordim Hedgethistle

Far from new but it feels like a fresh start -- I could not remember my password for the Downs and could not find it saved on either of my computers! For several days I was entirely locked from my account, before finally finding my login information on my old phone.

So, that was close.

*re-engage lurk mode*

What a harrowing near death experience.

Welcome back amongst the dead!

hamidradami · 12-24-2020, 12:51 PM

Hi everyone my name is hamid radami, I'm an absolute fan of Middle earth world, I remembered when I was 14 I watched 3 the Lord of the Rings movies then I bought The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth and playing a lot after that I realized The Silmarillion book, what a masterpiece, right now I'm playing another Lord of the Rings game(Divide and Conquer mod for Medieval II) It's a strategy game, so you can raise an army and attack the other factions in middle earth when I searched about the Morgoth I found your community, so I decided to register, my other hobbies are watching anime and movies, so I hope we have a great time with each other here.
Sorry if I have any mistake in my grammar, English is my second language.

Pervinca Took · 12-25-2020, 08:41 AM

Welcome aboard, Hamid!

Galadriel55 · 12-25-2020, 09:17 AM

Hi Hamid! Welcome to the Downs!

Soriman the Whide · 03-26-2021, 12:05 AM

2021 new user coming through. This place is dead right?

Huinesoron · 03-26-2021, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Soriman the Whide

2021 new user coming through. This place is dead right?

Hi Soriman, welcome to the Downs! Naturally the place is dead - I myself am a ghostly Prince of Cardolan (apparently).

Cold be hand and heart and bone,
and cold be sleep under stone:
never more to wake on stony bed,
never, till the Sun fails and the Moon is dead.

hS

***Mithadan*** · 03-26-2021, 10:36 AM

Welcome Soriman. Define "dead" please and enjoy your stay here.

Soriman the Whide · 03-26-2021, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithadan

Welcome Soriman. Define "dead"

Seems as though an ent might keep pace here.

Formendacil · 03-27-2021, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Soriman the Whide

Seems as though an ent might keep pace here.

I've been describing myself as a "treeish" user for something like eight/nine years, so at this point the Ents might be the active ones in this particular Fangorn...

But welcome to these shady woods all the same. I am enjoying your username if only because, in the wake of reading Tolkien's Chaucer, it's making me think that it would be an excellent and not implausible alterative Middle English spelling for our favourite master of Isengard.

Galadriel55 · 03-27-2021, 07:52 AM

Welcome, Soriman! I think this place is suitable for Ents and Huorns and trees and merry hobbits alike, even hasty wizards have their place. Take your pick and enjoy!

03-20-2018, 08:46 AM	#4081
Faramir Jones Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lonely Isle Posts: 706	Good to have you back! Good to have you back, Eldorion!

06-17-2018, 02:41 PM	#4083
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,037	Well, welcome anyway, Rhun charioteer! You've already made some interesting contributions here. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

06-20-2018, 10:02 AM	#4084
Faramir Jones Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lonely Isle Posts: 706	Welcome! As Inziladun said, welcome to you anyway, Rhun charioteer! Please don't worry about the delay in introducing yourself. I lurked for a long time before I decided to join, let alone make any contributions...

08-20-2018, 11:06 PM	#4086
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Welcome on board, Merrymatt! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

08-21-2018, 05:21 AM	#4087
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,376	Welcome, Merrymatt! I see you found the RPG subforum already. I hope you enjoy the rest of the site as well. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-16-2018, 10:32 PM	#4082
Rhun charioteer Wight Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 118	I'm not a "new" member per se but I haven't introduced myself. I was first introduced Tolkien and LOTR through the cartoon movies in the seventies and then Jackson's movies and I read the books six years later. Anyway Tolkien's legendarium has since I was introduced to it been a passion of mine and I have always wanted to read and learn more about the wonderful world Tolkien created.

08-20-2018, 09:17 PM	#4085
Merrymatt Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Old Saybrook, CT Posts: 14	Greetings and Bienvenue Fellow Tolkien Fans My name is Matthew Rascoe or Merrymatt by others, I’m an aspiring comic/film writer and Tolkien has been a major hero for my entire reading life.

08-21-2018, 06:23 AM	#4088
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,894	Welcome, Merrymatt; I think you're the first actual new person to post on this thread since me, so doubly welcome! hS

09-08-2018, 07:30 PM	#4090
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,376	i want to welcome the [currently] newest member of our forum, Lobelia's Umbrella. I don't know who you are but your screen name is beautiful. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-09-2018, 03:31 AM	#4091
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Indeed! A brilliant, hobbitty name. Welcome aboard, Lobelia's Umbrella. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 09-09-2018 at 05:47 AM.

04-10-2020, 07:19 PM	#4092
Barandiun Newly Deceased Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: WA, USA Posts: 6	Hi! My name is Tyler and I like hobbits. I'm TheGreatElvenWarrior's significant other.

04-10-2020, 07:26 PM	#4093
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,376	Hi Tyler! Welcome to the Downs! Hope to see you around the forums in the coming days. Do you prefer to use Tyler or Barandiun? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-11-2020, 02:42 AM	#4094
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,380	Well, it seems I've never introduced myself either, so I'd like to remedy that. I am Marie aka Urwen, oldest child of Hurin, tamer of geese and lover of Meglin. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-11-2020, 12:50 PM	#4095
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Welcome aboard, Baranduin/Tyler! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

10-20-2020, 11:28 AM	#4097
Imladviel Newly Deceased Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Finland Posts: 4	Hello, hello, hello! It's been a while... I used to be a regular here in 2003ish... my username back then was Niphredil Baggins. I can't log in to that account because I made it with my university email. Not being an university student anymore (no, I didn't graduate, I dropped out), I don't have access to it. I don't think anyone remembers me, and it might be better to make a new start anyways, as I have changed much from that constantly drunk chaotic half-hobbit persona I adopted. I'm honestly surprised this place is still here!

10-21-2020, 07:04 AM	#4099
Imladviel Newly Deceased Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Finland Posts: 4	Thanks, Inziladun! I realized I didn't actually tell anything about myself. I am almost 39 years old, I am owned by one cat, I live alone and am unemployed. I have also recently become an aunt! I am in the risk groups for corona because of an illness, so I have decided to isolate myself as much as possible. This means I am at home a lot and getting bored, which is why I had the idea to see if this old haunt was still here.

10-21-2020, 11:24 AM	#4101
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,376	Welcome back, Imladviel! Once a Downer, always a Downer? I am too recently dead to have met you before, but looking forward to seeing you around! Now that I think of it, I have been dead 10 years this month. 10 years, and it is still too recent. Also, several more years and I will have been on the Downs for longer than I lived without it. I am having a mid-death crisis, maybe. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-12-2020, 09:58 PM	#4106
araxhiel Newly Deceased Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1	Hi all! My name is Anton, and although I was aware of this forum, I never registered before (yeah, procrastination is kinda strong). I knew about TLotR since I was a kid, as where we used to rent movies they had a copy of the 1978 animated movie (but my mom never choose that to take home LOL). A decade later, Peter Jackson's movies happened, and that was my first real approach to Tolkien's work. Unfortunately, the only book that I've read of this series was the Silmarillion (around 2003) and being honest, I had the intention to read the other books, but never read them (procrastination strikes again...). This next year I'll try to correct that, as I have decided to read all the books (and that's also a personal goal for next year)... Although I'm kinda nervous, as I'm attempting to read them in English, instead a translated version (The Silmarillion that I read back then was a translated version). P.S. Sorry for my grammar mistakes, even after all these years I still have a long feud with grammar/verbs.

12-13-2020, 12:38 PM	#4108
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,376	Hello Araxhiel! It's exciting to have new people join! Welcome to the Downs! And join the Translated Tolkien club! I knew Tolkien exclusively in Russian for years before I ever read the English copy of the books. I find that I relate to them differently, they have a different feel. I tend to prefer The Sil, The Hobbit, Children of Hurin and the other smaller works in the original English, but have a very soft spot for the Muravyov-Kistyakovsky translation of LOTR. It's actually been years since I read LOTR in English, and was planning to do a cover-to-cover of that at some point. I think my point is, translations count too! And are equally fun to discuss, when you get a few people with bilingual Tolkien experience together. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-13-2020, 05:21 PM	#4109
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	Hi, I have recently been adopted by very much non identical twin kittens. They don’t have Tolkien names unfortunately as I work with their mother’s person and got too used to their original names. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

12-14-2020, 10:37 AM	#4110
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	*whew* Far from new but it feels like a fresh start -- I could not remember my password for the Downs and could not find it saved on either of my computers! For several days I was entirely locked from my account, before finally finding my login information on my old phone. So, that was close. re-engage lurk mode __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

12-24-2020, 12:51 PM	#4112
hamidradami Newly Deceased Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Tehran Posts: 1	Hi everyone my name is hamid radami, I'm an absolute fan of Middle earth world, I remembered when I was 14 I watched 3 the Lord of the Rings movies then I bought The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth and playing a lot after that I realized The Silmarillion book, what a masterpiece, right now I'm playing another Lord of the Rings game(Divide and Conquer mod for Medieval II) It's a strategy game, so you can raise an army and attack the other factions in middle earth when I searched about the Morgoth I found your community, so I decided to register, my other hobbies are watching anime and movies, so I hope we have a great time with each other here. Sorry if I have any mistake in my grammar, English is my second language.

12-25-2020, 08:41 AM	#4113
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Welcome aboard, Hamid! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

12-25-2020, 09:17 AM	#4114
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,376	Hi Hamid! Welcome to the Downs! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-26-2021, 12:05 AM	#4115
Soriman the Whide Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 88	2021 new user coming through. This place is dead right?

03-26-2021, 10:36 AM	#4117
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,373	Welcome Soriman. Define "dead" please and enjoy your stay here. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

03-27-2021, 07:52 AM	#4120
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,376	Welcome, Soriman! I think this place is suitable for Ents and Huorns and trees and merry hobbits alike, even hasty wizards have their place. Take your pick and enjoy! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera