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Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-07-2003, 05:24 AM

ok, hint:

Look at a map of ME... the places should make a recognizable path. The reaching arm is figurative, the map should help. In one place there's a slight backtrack, due to rhyme... (somewhere around the watertown).

The Mountain Grim is the head atop the spine, the place you're led is a specific feature, not a wide area (eg, a named mountain or valley).

Argh, this isn't a very good question, sorry guys [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img].

Sophia

elven maiden Earwen · 07-07-2003, 09:24 PM

Wait are we in the third age or could we be in the first age?

The Sea of Nurnen (The inland sea)
Bar-adur (The reaching arm)
Morannon (The Gates of Stone)
Lake-town (The Water-Town)
Thranduil's caves in Mirkwood (The elfking's Halls)
The Enchanted River or are we back to Esgorgoth(The Water Dim)
Iron Hills(The hills of Stone)
Eberor(The Mountain Grim)
and thats the far as I get. And I at all close.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-08-2003, 02:09 AM

Perhaps you could let us know, Sophia, how much of the quesion we have guessed rightly so far?

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-08-2003, 07:40 PM

OK I've puzzled over this for some time now and stared endlessly at maps of ME, and this is still all that I can come up with:

The inland sea, - Start at the Sea of Rhun
The reaching arm, - Follow the course of the River Running
The Gates of Stone, - To the Gates of Erebor
The Water-Town, - Back past Lake-Town
The Elfking's Halls, - Follow the Forest River past Thranduil's Palace
The Water Dim, - And past the Enchanted River
The hills of Stone, - To Ered Mithrin, the Grey Mountains
The Mountain Grim, - Arriving at Mount Gundabad
Atop the spine,
I am the head,
but followed down, - Follow the Mountains of Angmar
Where am I led? To Carn Dum?

So, is it Carn Dum?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-10-2003, 09:44 AM

Saucepan, you're amazing. *bows*

That's perfect. Just as I was berating myself for setting an impossible question. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-10-2003, 06:11 PM

Great question, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

In fact, so good that I'm going to 'borrow' your format for the next one. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Your journey starts at the war-torn front,
A fortress built to bear the brunt;
Follow the course of the diminutive one,
Joining her sister whose journey is long;
Turn off at the crossing of many stones;
Across the land where the first made their homes;
Then follow the water that falls, on your right
You will see the vale of twilight light;
And then you will find you are back where you started,
Now standing alone, all companions departed.

Like Sophia's question, the rhyme describes a journey. I'm looking for the start/finish point and each of the places/features that make up the journey.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-11-2003, 03:31 AM

If I win, I'll do something different [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img].

Start at the Pellenor Fields around Minas Tirith -- 'War-torn front'
Past Minas Tirith -- 'fortress... to bear the brunt'
Following the small river Erui -- 'diminutive one'
Join the Anduin -- 'sister whose course is long'
Turn around at Pelargir -- 'crossing of stones, where the first made their homes'
Follow the Anduin back up again past Rauros -- 'water that falls on your right'
Until you reeach the river Limlight -- 'vale of twilight light'
Er, take a boat back down Anduin and get off at Osgiliath again. Ta-da -- no I don't think this is entirely right somehow.

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-11-2003, 08:02 AM

Nope, Gwaihir, that's not it I'm afraid. If you follow the route, it will definately take you back to your starting point.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-11-2003, 02:19 PM

Alright Saucepan, I can't make this work quite to my satisfaction, but I'll give it a shot, in the hopes that you'll tell me I'm in the right area [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img].

Your journey starts at the war-torn front,
A fortress built to bear the brunt;- Himring which guarded the March of Maedhros
Follow the course of the diminutive one,- Little Gelion
Joining her sister whose journey is long;- Greater Gelion
Turn off at the crossing of many stones;- Sarn Athrad
Across the land where the first made their homes;- this is where things get sticky. I find myself in Nan Emloth, which is possibly where the first of the Sindar (Elwe and Melian) met, but I really want to say Ladros, where the first house of the Edain dwelt... in the right vicinity, but it doesn't quite work.
Then follow the water that falls, on your right- follow Celon upstream
You will see the vale of twilight light;- Couldn't find that one [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
And then you will find you are back where you started,
Now standing alone, all companions departed.- the source of the Celon is near Himring...

Missing a few links, but am I near?

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-11-2003, 08:08 PM

Well, I think you should have it Sophia as you got the right route and almost all of the locations. The missing ones were:

Across the land where the first made their homes; - Across Estolad, where the first of the Edain to come to Beleriand settled.

You will see the vale of twilight light; - This was Nan-Elmoth, meaning Star-Dusk Valley, which you pass on your right as you follow the Celon upstream.

Please proceed. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-13-2003, 03:18 AM

Hmm I can see I'm going to have to pore over a few maps before I try to answer one of these again.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-22-2003, 01:02 PM

Frozen in time, the solid water;
Lost a wife and kept a daughter.
Along the shore a journey long,
But settled now, near ocean song;
I dare not stay, must safety find,
Yet still I linger, where am I?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-24-2003, 02:40 AM

I believe you are in Vinyamar, and that you are Turgon son of Fingolfin. The 'solid water' is the Helcaraxe; Turgon did lose his wife, although his daughter survived, in this crossing; they marched along the shore to get there; built Vinyamar, near the sea, although they soon had to leave for Gondolin and safety.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 07-24-2003, 05:29 AM

That is it indeed, Gwaihir! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-01-2003, 02:16 AM

Ah, how satisfying. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] *cracks knuckles* Ok, a short riddle; try and guess the place from it.

Water crashing endlessly
Dark shores that huddle under;
That bears a lightless memory
That once set of the Valar's thunder.

Tell me if it's too hard and I'll give you a clue ok? I believe I've made it do-able, but then I never am a very good judge of this. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 08-01-2003, 02:02 PM

Cuivienen.

Water crashing endlessly
Dark shores that huddle under; (The star lit bay)
That bears a lightless memory
That once set of the Valar's thunder. (Orome)

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-02-2003, 02:36 AM

Good thinking, lindo, I think I'll give it to you. The other answer I would have accepted is Avathar; the darkness coming from Ungoliant's inhabitance there, and the thunder of the feet Tulkas in the hunt for the fugitive Morgoth the answer to the last line.

But, as Cuivenen is equally viable here, you may proceed.

[ August 02, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

Lindolirian · 08-02-2003, 09:26 AM

Thanks. Well, I'm gonna be gone for a little while, so I'm gonna hafta give this thread up to who ever wants it.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-03-2003, 03:08 AM

Ok, I'll ask another (easy) one.

Name two gates in Middle-Earth through which flowed a stream or river of water.

Tulkas the Mighty · 08-06-2003, 09:12 PM

The Front Gate of the Lonely Mountain and the Gate of the Noldor.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-09-2003, 01:24 AM

Excellent, your turn.

Tulkas the Mighty · 08-10-2003, 01:02 PM

Where was the Camp of the Faithful?

Mariska Greenleaf · 08-10-2003, 05:18 PM

Amon Rûdh.

Lindolirian · 08-31-2003, 06:55 PM

It's been more than ten days and I want to keep this theead alive.
What road crosses the Odothui?

alquadae · 09-17-2003, 03:38 AM

The Greenway [North road] meets the Old South Road at Tharbad which crosses Odothui.

Lindolirian · 09-28-2003, 08:39 PM

Right you are! Go ahead!

alquadae · 10-05-2003, 04:28 PM

Having computer problems ,please carry on

10-06-2003, 08:24 PM

A Helta Ar Caita Caimanna! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Estanesse · 10-12-2003, 06:37 PM

The answer is NO. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Question:

The Noldor had a secret gate, Tell me were the location is of this gate.

Lindolirian · 10-12-2003, 08:08 PM

The Annon-in-Gelyhd was in the western hills of Dor-Lómin and lead to the Cirith Ninniach.

[ October 12, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Estanesse · 10-13-2003, 01:16 PM

Excellent answer Lindo.

Lindolirian · 11-06-2003, 09:46 PM

Sorry it took so long. I've been away for quite some time.

Start at Calembel and follow the road south to the River Gilrain. Follow the River Serni North and stop before you reach River Celos. What is the name of the land you end up in? (specifically)

NightKnight · 11-07-2003, 10:55 AM

Lebennin?

Lindolirian · 11-07-2003, 02:37 PM

Nice!

NightKnight · 11-08-2003, 09:56 AM

What village was at the mouth of the river Siril?

Lindolirian · 11-10-2003, 04:38 PM

Nindamos of Hyarrostar.

NightKnight · 11-11-2003, 12:34 PM

That's right, please continue.

Lindolirian · 11-11-2003, 07:18 PM

What river flows from Lanthir Lamath?

NightKnight · 11-13-2003, 12:22 PM

That would be Adurant, no?

Lindolirian · 11-20-2003, 01:42 PM

Yes.

07-07-2003, 05:24 AM	#361
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	ok, hint: Look at a map of ME... the places should make a recognizable path. The reaching arm is figurative, the map should help. In one place there's a slight backtrack, due to rhyme... (somewhere around the watertown). The Mountain Grim is the head atop the spine, the place you're led is a specific feature, not a wide area (eg, a named mountain or valley). Argh, this isn't a very good question, sorry guys [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-07-2003, 09:24 PM	#362
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	Wait are we in the third age or could we be in the first age? The Sea of Nurnen (The inland sea) Bar-adur (The reaching arm) Morannon (The Gates of Stone) Lake-town (The Water-Town) Thranduil's caves in Mirkwood (The elfking's Halls) The Enchanted River or are we back to Esgorgoth(The Water Dim) Iron Hills(The hills of Stone) Eberor(The Mountain Grim) and thats the far as I get. And I at all close. __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

07-08-2003, 07:40 PM	#364
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	OK I've puzzled over this for some time now and stared endlessly at maps of ME, and this is still all that I can come up with: The inland sea, - Start at the Sea of Rhun The reaching arm, - Follow the course of the River Running The Gates of Stone, - To the Gates of Erebor The Water-Town, - Back past Lake-Town The Elfking's Halls, - Follow the Forest River past Thranduil's Palace The Water Dim, - And past the Enchanted River The hills of Stone, - To Ered Mithrin, the Grey Mountains The Mountain Grim, - Arriving at Mount Gundabad Atop the spine, I am the head, but followed down, - Follow the Mountains of Angmar Where am I led? To Carn Dum? So, is it Carn Dum? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-10-2003, 09:44 AM	#365
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Saucepan, you're amazing. bows That's perfect. Just as I was berating myself for setting an impossible question. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-10-2003, 06:11 PM	#366
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Great question, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] In fact, so good that I'm going to 'borrow' your format for the next one. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Your journey starts at the war-torn front, A fortress built to bear the brunt; Follow the course of the diminutive one, Joining her sister whose journey is long; Turn off at the crossing of many stones; Across the land where the first made their homes; Then follow the water that falls, on your right You will see the vale of twilight light; And then you will find you are back where you started, Now standing alone, all companions departed. Like Sophia's question, the rhyme describes a journey. I'm looking for the start/finish point and each of the places/features that make up the journey. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-08-2003, 02:09 AM	#363
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Perhaps you could let us know, Sophia, how much of the quesion we have guessed rightly so far?

07-11-2003, 03:31 AM	#367
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	If I win, I'll do something different [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Start at the Pellenor Fields around Minas Tirith -- 'War-torn front' Past Minas Tirith -- 'fortress... to bear the brunt' Following the small river Erui -- 'diminutive one' Join the Anduin -- 'sister whose course is long' Turn around at Pelargir -- 'crossing of stones, where the first made their homes' Follow the Anduin back up again past Rauros -- 'water that falls on your right' Until you reeach the river Limlight -- 'vale of twilight light' Er, take a boat back down Anduin and get off at Osgiliath again. Ta-da -- no I don't think this is entirely right somehow.

07-11-2003, 08:02 AM	#368
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope, Gwaihir, that's not it I'm afraid. If you follow the route, it will definately take you back to your starting point. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-11-2003, 02:19 PM	#369
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Alright Saucepan, I can't make this work quite to my satisfaction, but I'll give it a shot, in the hopes that you'll tell me I'm in the right area [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]. Your journey starts at the war-torn front, A fortress built to bear the brunt;- Himring which guarded the March of Maedhros Follow the course of the diminutive one,- Little Gelion Joining her sister whose journey is long;- Greater Gelion Turn off at the crossing of many stones;- Sarn Athrad Across the land where the first made their homes;- this is where things get sticky. I find myself in Nan Emloth, which is possibly where the first of the Sindar (Elwe and Melian) met, but I really want to say Ladros, where the first house of the Edain dwelt... in the right vicinity, but it doesn't quite work. Then follow the water that falls, on your right- follow Celon upstream You will see the vale of twilight light;- Couldn't find that one [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] And then you will find you are back where you started, Now standing alone, all companions departed.- the source of the Celon is near Himring... Missing a few links, but am I near? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-11-2003, 08:08 PM	#370
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Well, I think you should have it Sophia as you got the right route and almost all of the locations. The missing ones were: Across the land where the first made their homes; - Across Estolad, where the first of the Edain to come to Beleriand settled. You will see the vale of twilight light; - This was Nan-Elmoth, meaning Star-Dusk Valley, which you pass on your right as you follow the Celon upstream. Please proceed. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-13-2003, 03:18 AM	#371
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Hmm I can see I'm going to have to pore over a few maps before I try to answer one of these again.

07-22-2003, 01:02 PM	#372
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Frozen in time, the solid water; Lost a wife and kept a daughter. Along the shore a journey long, But settled now, near ocean song; I dare not stay, must safety find, Yet still I linger, where am I? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

07-24-2003, 02:40 AM	#373
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	I believe you are in Vinyamar, and that you are Turgon son of Fingolfin. The 'solid water' is the Helcaraxe; Turgon did lose his wife, although his daughter survived, in this crossing; they marched along the shore to get there; built Vinyamar, near the sea, although they soon had to leave for Gondolin and safety.

07-24-2003, 05:29 AM	#374
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	That is it indeed, Gwaihir! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-01-2003, 02:16 AM	#375
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Ah, how satisfying. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] cracks knuckles Ok, a short riddle; try and guess the place from it. Water crashing endlessly Dark shores that huddle under; That bears a lightless memory That once set of the Valar's thunder. Tell me if it's too hard and I'll give you a clue ok? I believe I've made it do-able, but then I never am a very good judge of this. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

08-01-2003, 02:02 PM	#376
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Cuivienen. Water crashing endlessly Dark shores that huddle under; (The star lit bay) That bears a lightless memory That once set of the Valar's thunder. (Orome) __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

08-02-2003, 02:36 AM	#377
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Good thinking, lindo, I think I'll give it to you. The other answer I would have accepted is Avathar; the darkness coming from Ungoliant's inhabitance there, and the thunder of the feet Tulkas in the hunt for the fugitive Morgoth the answer to the last line. But, as Cuivenen is equally viable here, you may proceed. [ August 02, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

08-02-2003, 09:26 AM	#378
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Thanks. Well, I'm gonna be gone for a little while, so I'm gonna hafta give this thread up to who ever wants it. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

08-03-2003, 03:08 AM	#379
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Ok, I'll ask another (easy) one. Name two gates in Middle-Earth through which flowed a stream or river of water.

08-06-2003, 09:12 PM	#380
Tulkas the Mighty Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 58	The Front Gate of the Lonely Mountain and the Gate of the Noldor.

08-09-2003, 01:24 AM	#381
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Excellent, your turn.

08-10-2003, 01:02 PM	#382
Tulkas the Mighty Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 58	Where was the Camp of the Faithful?

08-10-2003, 05:18 PM	#383
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Amon Rûdh. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

08-31-2003, 06:55 PM	#384
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	It's been more than ten days and I want to keep this theead alive. What road crosses the Odothui? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-17-2003, 03:38 AM	#385
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	The Greenway [North road] meets the Old South Road at Tharbad which crosses Odothui. __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

09-28-2003, 08:39 PM	#386
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Right you are! Go ahead! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

10-05-2003, 04:28 PM	#387
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Having computer problems ,please carry on __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

10-06-2003, 08:24 PM	#388
THE-THING-IN-THE-DARK Guest Posts: n/a	A Helta Ar Caita Caimanna! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

10-12-2003, 06:37 PM	#389
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	The answer is NO. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] Question: The Noldor had a secret gate, Tell me were the location is of this gate. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-12-2003, 08:08 PM	#390
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	The Annon-in-Gelyhd was in the western hills of Dor-Lómin and lead to the Cirith Ninniach. [ October 12, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

10-13-2003, 01:16 PM	#391
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Excellent answer Lindo. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-06-2003, 09:46 PM	#392
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Sorry it took so long. I've been away for quite some time. Start at Calembel and follow the road south to the River Gilrain. Follow the River Serni North and stop before you reach River Celos. What is the name of the land you end up in? (specifically) __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-07-2003, 10:55 AM	#393
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Lebennin? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

11-07-2003, 02:37 PM	#394
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Nice! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-08-2003, 09:56 AM	#395
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	What village was at the mouth of the river Siril? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.