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One was a white boy southlander with a stereotypical 'alt-right' hair cut throwing out "racial slurs" (lifted from some fantasy franchise, that I am unfamiliar with) and using the "you people" line to a black man. The other was an *elf-woman servant. I took it that as a pathetically ignorant breaking of the lore. But yeah it could be read with a focus on it as 'you are a half-breed'.
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Khazad Dum was stunning. It was good to see the dwarves depicted respectfully rather than comically (although I could have done without the belching and burping).They clearly have a well developed culture and I"m sure that will play into later episodes. I"m not someone who was overly fond of the Jackson movies, shall we say, and I wasn't excited by the news of this series but having ignored the hype I found RoP something watchable. And I'm glad to see you writing of things you enjoyed or thought were well done. I'd hate to see new potential members turned away by criticisms that are disdainfully expressed. https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...Kg&oe=631BD51D EDIT: Attached a photo that Brian Sibley has posted on FB, of a carving of a bird and baby in stone decorations. It was presented in a session at the Tolkien Society's 2022 Oxonmoot by Ramsey Avery – Production Designer for TLOTR: TROP .
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I wouldn't be surprised if the half-elven Elrond plays out some similar anxieties as Spock does. As for elf servants, all those whispy flowing robes confuse me and I've seen the episode but once. thanks for clarifying my mistakes.
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"Knife-ears" is a derogatory term for Elves taken from the Dragon Age series of videogames, in which they are an oppressed underclass (often servants).
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Vulcan Elves now? Well, Arondir is sort of coming off that way so far.
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And Tolkien had a perfectly good 'racial-slur' that the Easterlings (seemingly represented by these Southlanders) used for Elves...
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I do find it interesting that in the one part of Middle-earth in which Tolkien unmistakably placed POC, Harad, the showrunners have chosen to put white people.
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Rowan isn't highlighted in many of the cast lists but he is in one from (gulp) One Wiki to Rule them All. https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Rowan_(Southlands)
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I don't know why you think it was Theo that I was referring to when I noted the racist "knife-ears" and "you people" speech from the white boy. Did the version you saw have Theo saying? Or are you just confused? I did not say anything about the hair cut being "weird", I described the character. So again white boy with alt-right hair cut using racially charged in a modern sense speech claimed to be racist ("you people") to a black man. But no ideopolitical messaging.
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That's an alt-right hair cut? I thought it was Justin Bieber?
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https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2017...f-e27ecdf00000
How America's Alt-right Got Its Signature Hairstyle A hairstyle that's shaved on the sides and long on top went from being a hipster affectation to a neo-fascist show of force.
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Aren’t we getting more than a bit far afield? Can we please move on?
Thank you.
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