Fall of Gondolin

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

What about Anglachel/Gurthang, though?

Every person it came into contact with died (Eol, Beleg, Turin and Thingol). But what if they weren't the last ones? What if it found its way into Blackheart's black heart?

Originally Posted by Urwen

Do you think that M[a]eglin could have been redeemed if there was someone who loved him in secret and revealed it?

... are you literally sitting behind me reading over my shoulder?

Because I've included variants on both these points in my brand new, somewhat parodaic fic: The Love of a Good Woman.

^_^

hS

[Urwen]

.....you made me feel pity for Morgoth of all people.....


What do you have to say for yourself?

[Urwen]

Would you read my stories in turn?

[Urwen]

And speaking of my stories, what if Gondolin was betrayed by someone else? What if - just as Maeglin pined for Idril - Glorfindel, likewise, pined for him?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Urwen

And speaking of my stories, what if Gondolin was betrayed by someone else? What if - just as Maeglin pined for Idril - Glorfindel, likewise, pined for him?

Some "what ifs" are only in the realm of possibility in fan fiction. That is one example.

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Some "what ifs" are only in the realm of possibility in fan fiction. That is one example.

So you think people can't possibly be pining for him? I find that false. After all, I am a living, breathing proof that people can pine for him.

[Ivriniel]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Do you think that M[a]eglin could have been redeemed if there was someone who loved him in secret and revealed it?

I've grown more forgiving of Maeglin as I age. Yes, it got disturbing with his stalking of Turgon's lineage. But I recall Maeglin was also described as pretty stalwart, when facing Morgoth, a Vala.

I wonder then, had Turgon been less absurdly vengeful in throwing Eol off the cliffs, as punishment for the death, then Maeglin before Morgoth in that 'Fan Fiction' should have had more emotional reserves to hold his own.

No doubt, hatred simmering, and a pretty immutable Turgon, with a city of such isolation, and protectionism, must have had it's cost on loyalty. Eol, I imagine, taught Maeglin that the Noldor stole lands, took power, and displaced his own kind. Maeglin, also knowing of the Kinslaying, must have had his loyalties eroded, due to that.

[Urwen]

I came upon an interesting topic while browsing the forums. Do you think it would be easier for Idril, Tuor and co. to undermine him via political means and thus render him essentially powerless? Making him lose everything would have been far better pf a punishment than killing him, and more poetic too.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I came upon an interesting topic while browsing the forums. Do you think it would be easier for Idril, Tuor and co. to undermine him via political means and thus render him essentially powerless? Making him lose everything would have been far better pf a punishment than killing him, and more poetic too.

I think a possible downside of that strategy would have been Maeglin cottoning onto what they were about, and taking some proactive measures of his own.

Also: political intrigue? Speeches? Filibusters? Mr. Tuor Goes To Gondolin

[Urwen]

I doubt it. They hid the tunnel from him for a long time, so I doubt he'll know who is responsible for his loss of power either.

They could have pinned the blame onto someone else (Salgant, for example, spinning a tale how Salgant was always jealous of his power and thus sought to bring him down)

[Urwen]

No further comments on this?

[Urwen]

Well, then, I think there is nothing more to be said about this topic.

[Urwen]

An alternative tale of the fall of Gondolin and aftermath

Guess who doesn't die but is put in an artificial coma instead?

[Urwen]

What do you think of my story?

[Urwen]

Okay, apparently my stories are so horrible that they should be treated like plague. Either that, o people dislike reading about Maeglin because of how often I talk think about him.

[Pervinca Took]

I have just read it, and it's very well-written. I am not really emotionally attached to Maeglin, though.