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I fully appreciate your own willingness, indeed!
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Nice riffing!
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And people still defend PJ's films. That's all I can say.
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I know no one's posted in this thread recently but I didn't think this was worth starting a new one for.
Supposedly it's revealed on the Extended Edition Blu-Ray (in the bonus material I suppose) that that ludicrous scene in this film where Smaug was chasing the Dwarves all around Erebor was one of the things added in after they'd shot the original two films when they decided to pad it out to three. No wonder it feels so tacked on and the ending is such a cop-out (Smaug leaves to attack Lake-Town for no discernible reason when he could have deep-fried the majority of Thorin and Company right then and there). What really astounds me, however, is something that struck me when watching 'An Unexpected Journey' too. This film went for two hours and forty-one minutes. They can't have filmed that much extra material after the three-part decision was made. That would mean that even before the 'trilogy' decision, they probably had enough material to make three films anyway, probably one and a half to two hours each. But no, they're the successors to Peter Jacksons 'The Lord of the Rings,' so they have to go for nearly three hours each because that's just how long a 'Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings film' has to go for. Obviously shorter films would make it harder to justify a trilogy as well, even if they actually already had enough material. So that's how we ended up with all this filler. The original excuse, that they had so much anyway that they thought it was better to make three films rather than two, surely doesn't hold up when it's outright stated that turning it into a trilogy wasn't about saving material from the cutting room floor but actually involved producing more padding to artificially extend the runtime. I think this is what Baudrillard called Pure Simulation.
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And it's also what PJ would call Pure Silmarillion. (Let's hope we never see that day...)
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I see the new one is bearing the tagline 'The Defining Chapter.'
What were the other chapters then? Indefinite?
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They sure felt nearly indefinite.
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Ah, so they finally admit that they're really going at a rate of a chapter a film.
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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I can imagine in another world, there's a Peter Jackson who is mad enough to make a three-hour movie out of each of The Hobbit's 19 chapters.
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if anyone still cares - I just had to take a look at the "extended edition", and doing so - as is our unholy tradition until next November - we also recorded another commentary of me and two of my mates seeing it for the first time ever.
For those who have a morbid curiosity about what new surprise awaits, I'd love it if you checked it out. Rest assured, I was not ready for Thrain's wilhelm scream. |
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And yeah, the whole Thrain-business is just wierd.
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I honestly did not think these movies could get worse than the naked Dwarves in An Unexpected Journey until hearing the word "bollocks" and seeing Stephen Fry munching on the above-mentioned body parts... Dear, dear me. I need a lie down.
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Did you know Lord Phillock and friends have riffed the final one? A couple of months ago, actually. Check it out, they're pretty funny.
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Inziladun and Tar-Jêx, it could have been Galadriel and Kili...
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