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Old 08-04-2011, 09:25 AM   #121
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Silmaril Quite a few one-words to describe The Sil (aka a summary of what has been said):

Terse (Mac)
Formidable (Esty)
Mythic (Selmo)
Glacial (Lal)
Fateful (Ang)
[A] jewel (Bb)
Deep (Ninja91)
Better (Eomer)
Magic (TM)
Disjointed (Morm)
Fey (Mith)
Engaging (Valier)
Complex (Brinn)
Depressing (symestreem)
Unfortunate (Lhuna)
Tragic (Elempi)
Multi-charactered (Firefoot)
Sweeping (Elempi)
Overpowering (Captain Grishnahk)
Splintered (Elempi)
Cynical (Alatar)
"Totally" (Alatar)
Tome-ish (Alatar)
Preliminary (Pio)
Demanding (Saucie)
Long (Enca)
Morgoth (Child)
Medieval (Child)
Interesting (Gil)
Challenging (Lhuna)
Bold (Elempi)
Lore (TM)
Epic (High King Fingolfin)
Stupendous (Morm)
Doomed! (Guinevere)
Dry (Liriodendron)
Sombre (Guinevere)
Colossal (Galadel Vinorel)
Fate (TM)
Convincing (Legate)
Sacred (Amras Oronar)
Bare-boned (Pio)
"The Bible of ME" (Boromir_bg)
Magnificient (Lommy)
Historical (yavanna II)
Debated (Elempi)
Unfinished (hild)
Ethereal (Elmo)
Compicated (Orominuialwen)
Intense (Shieldmaiden4xsword)
Compelling (Tar-Meneldur)
Doctored (Bb)
Emended (Bb)
Nascent (Pio)
Tertiary (Son of Numenor)
Nutty (Lal)
Layered (Laitoste)
Loss (Thena)
Revealing (luthien-elvenprincess)
nakakapagpabagabag (Lhuna)
"The 'l' of a story" (Bb)
Bleak (ADubiousSource)
Iluvatar (ADubiousSource)
Tragedy (Thena)
Destiny (Thena)
History (Thena)
Bible (Thena)
Lumenyáre (Thena)
Revelation (Neithan Tol Turambar)
Christopher (narrforc)
Overcomplex (Sir Kohran)
Norse (LjósÁlfr)
Teasing (Sauron The White)
Headache (blood of angels)
Homeric (Andsigil)
Cosmological (Morth)
Short (Rikae)
Novel - in both senses (Valesse)
Fascinating (Groin Redbeard)
Didactic (Ibrin)
Intricate (kementari)
Changed/Edited (Eonwe)
Distant (Siiw)
Elegiac (Lush)
Confusing (TGEW)
Fall (Nilp)
Lovely (Rune)
Archaic (skip)
Broken (Tietäjä)
Enchanting (Agan)
Impossible (Diane C)
Frustrating (TheOrcWithNoName)
Sublime (Eomer)
Grand (Zil)
Eternal (G55)
Nostalgia (Galadriel)
Powerful (G55)
Transcendent (Ozban)
Beautiful (G55)
Emotional (Ren the Unclean)
Rough (Cirdan)
Legendary (oddkins)
Imperfection in perfaction (SlverGlass)
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Valor (spirit_of_fire)
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:37 AM   #122
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In that case, we will just have to disagree. I think that The Sil is a beautiful work, even if it wasn't completed by JRRT.
I think this guy's just trolling, G55– see his post on the "Why is it so difficult" thread.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:56 AM   #123
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Galadriel55 spoke: [In that case, we will just have to disagree]
Yeppers.

Nice summation of the exisitng words used in the thread so far.
Good work.

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Yeah... No--that's not it.
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Old 08-05-2011, 06:39 AM   #124
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FlimFlam–

You do know that just saying you're not a troll by this stage carries about as much weight as insisting that a violet-eyed half-Elf fan-fic heroine is "not a Mary Sue"?
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:25 AM   #125
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I would like to add WISTFUL.

I agree with everyone who said it was nostalgic or regretful in some way. The gradual diminishing of the world and its tainting - Arda Marred, if you will - is, at least to me, the the most prominent theme of The Silm, even THE theme. Especially so with the last lines, which I don't have on me now.
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Old 08-09-2011, 12:18 PM   #126
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Especially so with the last lines, which I don't have on me now.
Here they are:

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Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Baugir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it aprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.
This is probably my most favourite passage in all the books. I have many favourites (too many for them to be called "favourites"... ), but this sentence is simply unbeatable.

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Here ends the SILMARILLION. If it has passed from the high and beautiful to darkness and ruin, that was of old the fate of Arda Marred; and if any change shall come and the Marring be amended, Manwe and Varda may know; but they have not revealed it, and it is not declared in the dooms of Mandos.
This does indeed summarise the whole Sil.
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Old 08-09-2011, 06:19 PM   #127
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Yes, that last quote! Exactly what I was trying to say. Tolkien seems to have put it in better words than me.
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:44 PM   #128
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While I absolutely agree with words like "wistful" and "nostalgia", my words seem to be more... erm, now how should I call it? Well, those that describe the impression rather than the book.

Looking at the long list I made earlier, most "words" are either "summaries" (like wistful, loss), "experiences or reading The Sil" (like complicated, headaches, demanding (lol ... these are not the best experiences)), or "impressions" (like destiny, doomed!, tragedy, sorrow, powerful). Do you get the gist?

Interesting...
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:59 AM   #129
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Yes, I see it too. And the words describing the experiences of reading the book do seem to be predominantly negative.
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:06 AM   #130
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LOL, agreed! ;D
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:39 AM   #131
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LOL, agreed! ;D
Hey, that wasn't even my word! According to the list blood of angels said that. The Sil didn't give me headaches. Reading it on the bus did.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:39 AM   #132
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Hey, that wasn't even my word! According to the list blood of angels said that. The Sil didn't give me headaches. Reading it on the bus did
No matter, I still agree with it The first time nearly killed me.

Then something happened called 'getting used to the style'
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