Iran to celebrate J.R.R. Tolkien’s birthday - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

davem · 01-06-2011, 04:01 PM

http://www.ibna.ir/vdcauino.49nuw1gtk4.html

Bet you didn't see that coming.....

Rumil · 01-06-2011, 04:12 PM

How interesting davem!

reminded me of a thread some time ago by Saucie regarding Tolkien in Iran and how different cultures draw different parallels between the Prof's works and their own mythologies.

http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthr...highlight=iran

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-06-2011, 04:17 PM

Brilliant, I say! And yes, Rumil, I was immediately reminded of that thread as well.

I believe it's wonderful when rather distant cultures can embrace some work like that - and at the same time not just "import the West" with it, but be able to take it in, with their own interpretation and ways (while at the same keeping true to the author).

Rumil · 01-06-2011, 05:46 PM

Hi Davem and Legate,

glad to see you around. It's been a bit quiet in the old Barrow recently. Hope you're both keeping well, and Lal too! Maybe we'll get another influx when The Hobbit hits the screens.

I must say that the few Iranians I've met have been lovely people and fearsomely intelligent as well, so would make perfect Tolkienites

.

All the Best

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 03-02-2011, 08:33 AM

I expected to read that Ahmadinejad had declared the day a national holiday, not that a couple of teachers had decided to.... do what exactly?

Kuruharan · 03-03-2011, 08:09 AM

No, I didn't see that coming.

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do what exactly?

Since they said they would hold a forum assessing his works...blast him with modernist criticism, perhaps?

3dmahdi · 05-20-2011, 01:05 PM

Hello to all,

My name is Mahdi. I was searching and found this thread.
I'm Iranian fan of Tolkien and moderator of one of Tolkien's fan sites and forums of Iran. (www.Arda.ir and www.forum.Arda.ir)

I must mention that Tolkien is very popular among Iranian people and there are some good forums like Arda.ir , Valimar.ir , fantasy.ir , ... .

This celebration was joint meeting of Arda and Fantasy Academy and I as moderator of arda was there. If you want to know what happened in that meeting you can read this(if you know Persian):
http://arda.ir/news/259-arda-fantasyacademy-isna.html
or Google Translation here:
http://translate.google.com/translat...demy-isna.html

But Google translation isn't good (Arda has been translated as Policy! and many other mistakes) so I say it in brief. It began with biography of Tolkien and his books then a long discussion on Tolkien's books and reading parts of The Hobbit, Silmarillion, The Children of Hurin and Lord of the Rings.

At last I must tell Kuruharan that there was no "modernist criticism"!

Regards,
3DMahdi

Pitchwife · 05-20-2011, 01:49 PM

Welcome, 3DMahdi! Great to see an Iranian Tolkien fan on the Downs!
Your link to your own forum really makes me sad that I can't read Persian - I'd love to peep into some of the discussions there and see what people from another culture think about Tolkien's works.

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Originally Posted by 3dmahdi

But Google translation isn't good (Arda has been translated as Policy! and many other mistakes)

Yes, Google translator is horrible. We have a whole thread here dedicated to hilarious Google mistranslations of quotes from Tolkien - it's incredible.
Again, welcome, and hope to see you around here more often!

Mithalwen · 05-20-2011, 02:05 PM

I can only second Pitch's welcome and regret that I can't read it - great to know it exists though.

Galadriel55 · 05-20-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I can only second Pitch's welcome and regret that I can't read it - great to know it exists though.

I third it!

And yes, it's so good to know that there are geeks like you all over the world!

3dmahdi · 05-20-2011, 03:13 PM

Thanks for your welcome Pitchwife, Mithalwen and Galadriel55.

Tolkien is so great and he has fans all around the world because his works are about things that are common in all cultures: admiring peace, bravery, truth and love.

Kuruharan · 05-20-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 3dmahdi

At last I must tell Kuruharan that there was no "modernist criticism"!

I feel special.

This does bring me to the potentially odd question of what sort of literary criticism Tolkien does come under in that part of the world?

01-06-2011, 04:01 PM	#1
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Iran to celebrate J.R.R. Tolkien’s birthday http://www.ibna.ir/vdcauino.49nuw1gtk4.html Bet you didn't see that coming..... __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

01-06-2011, 04:12 PM	#2
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Prince of Persia How interesting davem! reminded me of a thread some time ago by Saucie regarding Tolkien in Iran and how different cultures draw different parallels between the Prof's works and their own mythologies. http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthr...highlight=iran __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

01-06-2011, 04:17 PM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Brilliant, I say! And yes, Rumil, I was immediately reminded of that thread as well. I believe it's wonderful when rather distant cultures can embrace some work like that - and at the same time not just "import the West" with it, but be able to take it in, with their own interpretation and ways (while at the same keeping true to the author). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-06-2011, 05:46 PM	#4
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	2011 who'da thunk it? Hi Davem and Legate, glad to see you around. It's been a bit quiet in the old Barrow recently. Hope you're both keeping well, and Lal too! Maybe we'll get another influx when The Hobbit hits the screens. I must say that the few Iranians I've met have been lovely people and fearsomely intelligent as well, so would make perfect Tolkienites . All the Best __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

03-02-2011, 08:33 AM	#5
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I expected to read that Ahmadinejad had declared the day a national holiday, not that a couple of teachers had decided to.... do what exactly? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

05-20-2011, 01:05 PM	#7
3dmahdi Newly Deceased Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2	Hello to all, My name is Mahdi. I was searching and found this thread. I'm Iranian fan of Tolkien and moderator of one of Tolkien's fan sites and forums of Iran. (www.Arda.ir and www.forum.Arda.ir) I must mention that Tolkien is very popular among Iranian people and there are some good forums like Arda.ir , Valimar.ir , fantasy.ir , ... . This celebration was joint meeting of Arda and Fantasy Academy and I as moderator of arda was there. If you want to know what happened in that meeting you can read this(if you know Persian): http://arda.ir/news/259-arda-fantasyacademy-isna.html or Google Translation here: http://translate.google.com/translat...demy-isna.html But Google translation isn't good (Arda has been translated as Policy! and many other mistakes) so I say it in brief. It began with biography of Tolkien and his books then a long discussion on Tolkien's books and reading parts of The Hobbit, Silmarillion, The Children of Hurin and Lord of the Rings. At last I must tell Kuruharan that there was no "modernist criticism"! Regards, 3DMahdi Last edited by 3dmahdi; 05-20-2011 at 01:08 PM.

05-20-2011, 02:05 PM	#9
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,455	I can only second Pitch's welcome and regret that I can't read it - great to know it exists though. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-20-2011, 03:13 PM	#11
3dmahdi Newly Deceased Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2	Thanks for your welcome Pitchwife, Mithalwen and Galadriel55. Tolkien is so great and he has fans all around the world because his works are about things that are common in all cultures: admiring peace, bravery, truth and love.