"Minor works" trivia - Page 9 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-09-2007, 08:15 AM

Yes, very true - that line definitely evokes Arwen. Well, here's a new quote for ya'll:

Quote:

I shall not forget you.

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-06-2007, 01:55 AM

Well, it looks like this thread has been forgotten. Anyone want to give the quote a try, or shall I go on with a different one?

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-10-2007, 11:20 AM

Oops, I mixed this thread up with the quotes thread - anyone is welcome to pose a trivia question instead.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-11-2007, 07:56 AM

Well, your quotation was from Father Christmas' last published letter (1943), in which he says "goodbye" to Priscilla Tolkien. Since you opened the thread again, though, here's a new question:

Which of the poems selected by Tolkien from the Red Book does he specifically localise to the Buckland?

Estelyn Telcontar · 09-18-2007, 02:25 PM

Well, perhaps it's time to answer this question:

The first two poems in the Tom Bombadil cycle, "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil" and "Bombadil Goes Boating",

Quote:

evidently come from the Buckland. They show more knowledge of that country, and of the Dingle, the wooded valley of the Withywindle, than any Hobbits west of the Marish were likely to possess. They also show that the Bucklanders knew Bombadil, though, no doubt, they had as little understanding of his powers as the Shirefolk had of Gandalf's...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-19-2007, 10:11 AM

It's been a long time, but I think that's the answer I was looking for.

Estelyn Telcontar · 09-19-2007, 12:50 PM

According to Tolkien's own words, which characters were probably "walkers in Outer Faery"?

HerenIstarion · 10-13-2007, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estelyn Telcontar

According to Tolkien's own words, which characters were probably "walkers in Outer Faery"?

Smith's wife Nell and his daughter Nan I believe

The Might · 11-18-2007, 09:08 AM

Well, since it's been so long since so long since someone posted anything I thought the Minor works thread could also use a boost:

Who believes painting has uses?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-18-2007, 11:04 AM

I don't know what is his name in the original. In Czech, it's Kráčmera. He is a councillor (is that the word?), one of the three who discuss at the end of Leaf by Niggle.

I see, TM, that after being killed in WW, you decided to fill your free time with something else

The Might · 11-18-2007, 12:47 PM

Indeed, I believe you mean Tompkins.
And yes, that is one of the reasons I tried to revive the Quiz threads. To give something to do.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-18-2007, 01:15 PM

Tompkins. All right, I'll try to remember that. Anyway...

What was broken into four pieces?

If it's too hard, I may provide you with some hints

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-26-2007, 03:43 PM

Okay, it was really very vague, but I did not think of a way to make it less vague without completely giving it out.

But what about putting it this way:

What was broken into four pieces as a result of certain animal's action?

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-27-2007, 09:42 AM

The "certain animal" sounds like it must be Roverandom, always getting into mischief, but I haven't been able to locate an exact reference yet. Am I on the right track?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-27-2007, 01:45 PM

In fact Esty, I have to disappoint you. Think about all possible animals... but it's not that hard once you get on the right track, I'm sure you'd make it if you try

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-27-2007, 02:32 PM

Well, I've been searching and am not finding anything at all. Chrysophylax didn't cause anything to break, as far as I could see, nor did another animal in Roverandom. And the only other animals in minor works are in the Tom Bombadil poems, and I couldn't find any breakage there either.

Another clue, please?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-27-2007, 02:57 PM

Check everything that belongs to the "Minor works". It is written at the beginning of this thread (hey, in fact you wrote it yourself). You will know...

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-28-2007, 07:03 AM

Ah, it's that time of year again! I'd forgotten all about the Father Christmas Letters! In 1926 the moon was broken into four pieces because the North Polar Bear turned on all of the Northern Lights (nice Pullman reference, eh?!) at once.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-28-2007, 09:10 AM

Yes, obviously

Of course you are correct, please continue the thread and give us something interesting to think of

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-28-2007, 09:26 AM

Who traditionally set out upon a trip on St Nicholas' Day? (Since that is coming up in a week...)

Estelyn Telcontar · 12-09-2007, 08:44 AM

Well, St Nicholas' Day has come and gone, and the question is still unanswered. Anyone want to try?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-23-2008, 04:19 PM

It was one knight in the Middle Kingdom every year to bring a dragon's tail to the king.

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-24-2008, 03:05 AM

Yes, Legate - very good! You may begin a new quest...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-24-2008, 03:49 AM

Hmm, who was the enemy of the Black swan?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-05-2008, 11:25 AM

With some of those, it is really bad... almost nine months and no attempt for an answer...

HerenIstarion · 10-05-2008, 11:53 AM

That'd be a Sea-Rover the Man of the Red Worm dragon-ship and his men, the very master of the other Rover the mer-dog the Rover [dog proper] whom after the book Roverandom has been named had befriended on his voyage under the sea.

Lot of roving in the sentence above... but then there are lots of them rovers in the book mentioned, can't help it

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-05-2008, 02:47 PM

Indeed, well done. You may take the thread and pose another question, hopefully with better - earlier - response

HerenIstarion · 10-25-2008, 01:52 PM

Earlier response provided I'm quick enough with posing first

(my apologies for being late, like

)

So, being on the run, something easy off the top of my head:

Who it was to build himself a gilded gondola for wandering purposes?

The Might · 11-21-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

There was a merry passenger,
a messenger, a mariner:
he built a gilded gondola
to wander in, and had in her
a load of yellow oranges
and porridge for his provender;
he perfumed her with marjoram
and cardamom and lavender.

The mariner. Nice question btw.

The Might · 12-31-2008, 07:07 AM

Anyone wishing to confirm this as a valid/flawed answer?

HerenIstarion · 12-31-2008, 09:22 AM

Coming, comings Sir!

My apologies for having forgotten about this

Surely your answer is correct, take the thread over

The Might · 01-01-2009, 08:10 PM

Ah, no problem at all.

Hmm, let me see:

Who jumped on a bicycle? (think it should be a fairly easy one)

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-02-2009, 06:28 AM

Well, since Mr Bliss only "got on his bicycle", with no jumping involved, then it must be Niggle.

The Might · 01-02-2009, 09:48 AM

Very true, Dame Telcontar!

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-02-2009, 10:00 AM

"Same procedure as every year" - the fireworks that herald the new year always do some damage. What was damaged by a destructive display of explosives in one of Tolkien's stories?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 02-13-2009, 04:44 PM

'Father Christmas' reported to the Tolkien boys in 1926 that the North Polar Bear had set off two years' worth of 'Rory Bory Aylis' in one night. One of the disastrous effects was the breaking of the moon into four pieces.

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-03-2009, 01:48 PM

That's right, Squatter - and nice to have you posting here again!

Go ahead...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-09-2009, 01:16 PM

Nice to be back, however incompletely. Like Húrin I have come as I could, but he had a better excuse.

What of Niggle's "did not function properly"?

Bêthberry · 10-17-2009, 11:05 AM

Niggle's heart, according to the First Voice.

EDIT: What a pleasant way to bump up this thread and bump a spammer off the forum's front page!

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-17-2010, 06:35 AM

That's the one, Beth. Sorry it took so long to confirm.

03-06-2007, 01:55 AM	#322
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Well, it looks like this thread has been forgotten. Anyone want to give the quote a try, or shall I go on with a different one? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-10-2007, 11:20 AM	#323
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Oops, I mixed this thread up with the quotes thread - anyone is welcome to pose a trivia question instead. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-11-2007, 07:56 AM	#324
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Well, your quotation was from Father Christmas' last published letter (1943), in which he says "goodbye" to Priscilla Tolkien. Since you opened the thread again, though, here's a new question: Which of the poems selected by Tolkien from the Red Book does he specifically localise to the Buckland? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-19-2007, 10:11 AM	#326
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	It's been a long time, but I think that's the answer I was looking for. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-19-2007, 12:50 PM	#327
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	According to Tolkien's own words, which characters were probably "walkers in Outer Faery"? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-18-2007, 09:08 AM	#329
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well, since it's been so long since so long since someone posted anything I thought the Minor works thread could also use a boost: Who believes painting has uses? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-18-2007, 11:04 AM	#330
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I don't know what is his name in the original. In Czech, it's Kráčmera. He is a councillor (is that the word?), one of the three who discuss at the end of Leaf by Niggle. I see, TM, that after being killed in WW, you decided to fill your free time with something else __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-18-2007, 12:47 PM	#331
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Indeed, I believe you mean Tompkins. And yes, that is one of the reasons I tried to revive the Quiz threads. To give something to do. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-18-2007, 01:15 PM	#332
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Tompkins. All right, I'll try to remember that. Anyway... What was broken into four pieces? If it's too hard, I may provide you with some hints __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-26-2007, 03:43 PM	#333
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, it was really very vague, but I did not think of a way to make it less vague without completely giving it out. But what about putting it this way: What was broken into four pieces as a result of certain animal's action? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-27-2007, 09:42 AM	#334
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	The "certain animal" sounds like it must be Roverandom, always getting into mischief, but I haven't been able to locate an exact reference yet. Am I on the right track? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-27-2007, 01:45 PM	#335
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	In fact Esty, I have to disappoint you. Think about all possible animals... but it's not that hard once you get on the right track, I'm sure you'd make it if you try __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-27-2007, 02:32 PM	#336
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Well, I've been searching and am not finding anything at all. Chrysophylax didn't cause anything to break, as far as I could see, nor did another animal in Roverandom. And the only other animals in minor works are in the Tom Bombadil poems, and I couldn't find any breakage there either. Another clue, please? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-27-2007, 02:57 PM	#337
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Check everything that belongs to the "Minor works". It is written at the beginning of this thread (hey, in fact you wrote it yourself). You will know... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-28-2007, 07:03 AM	#338
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Ah, it's that time of year again! I'd forgotten all about the Father Christmas Letters! In 1926 the moon was broken into four pieces because the North Polar Bear turned on all of the Northern Lights (nice Pullman reference, eh?!) at once. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-28-2007, 09:10 AM	#339
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Yes, obviously Of course you are correct, please continue the thread and give us something interesting to think of __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-28-2007, 09:26 AM	#340
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Who traditionally set out upon a trip on St Nicholas' Day? (Since that is coming up in a week...) __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

12-09-2007, 08:44 AM	#341
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Well, St Nicholas' Day has come and gone, and the question is still unanswered. Anyone want to try? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-23-2008, 04:19 PM	#342
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	It was one knight in the Middle Kingdom every year to bring a dragon's tail to the king. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-24-2008, 03:05 AM	#343
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Yes, Legate - very good! You may begin a new quest... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-24-2008, 03:49 AM	#344
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Hmm, who was the enemy of the Black swan? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-05-2008, 11:25 AM	#345
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	With some of those, it is really bad... almost nine months and no attempt for an answer... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-05-2008, 11:53 AM	#346
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	I'll try my hand That'd be a Sea-Rover the Man of the Red Worm dragon-ship and his men, the very master of the other Rover the mer-dog the Rover [dog proper] whom after the book Roverandom has been named had befriended on his voyage under the sea. Lot of roving in the sentence above... but then there are lots of them rovers in the book mentioned, can't help it __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-05-2008, 02:47 PM	#347
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Indeed, well done. You may take the thread and pose another question, hopefully with better - earlier - response __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-25-2008, 01:52 PM	#348
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Earlier response provided I'm quick enough with posing first (my apologies for being late, like ) So, being on the run, something easy off the top of my head: Who it was to build himself a gilded gondola for wandering purposes? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

12-31-2008, 07:07 AM	#350
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Anyone wishing to confirm this as a valid/flawed answer? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-31-2008, 09:22 AM	#351
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Coming, comings Sir! My apologies for having forgotten about this Surely your answer is correct, take the thread over __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

01-01-2009, 08:10 PM	#352
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ah, no problem at all. Hmm, let me see: Who jumped on a bicycle? (think it should be a fairly easy one) __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-02-2009, 06:28 AM	#353
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Well, since Mr Bliss only "got on his bicycle", with no jumping involved, then it must be Niggle. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-02-2009, 09:48 AM	#354
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Very true, Dame Telcontar! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-02-2009, 10:00 AM	#355
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	"Same procedure as every year" - the fireworks that herald the new year always do some damage. What was damaged by a destructive display of explosives in one of Tolkien's stories? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-13-2009, 04:44 PM	#356
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	'Father Christmas' reported to the Tolkien boys in 1926 that the North Polar Bear had set off two years' worth of 'Rory Bory Aylis' in one night. One of the disastrous effects was the breaking of the moon into four pieces. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

03-03-2009, 01:48 PM	#357
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	That's right, Squatter - and nice to have you posting here again! Go ahead... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-09-2009, 01:16 PM	#358
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Nice to be back, however incompletely. Like Húrin I have come as I could, but he had a better excuse. What of Niggle's "did not function properly"? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 03-09-2009 at 03:58 PM. Reason: See below. Tsk.

10-17-2009, 11:05 AM	#359
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,996	Niggle's heart, according to the First Voice. EDIT: What a pleasant way to bump up this thread and bump a spammer off the forum's front page! __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away. Last edited by Bêthberry; 10-17-2009 at 01:38 PM.