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Interesting question!
I'll have to do a little reading before giving you a more complete answer, but talking off the cuff I'd say that Maedhros was there first, and it became something of his own little project. He might not have welcomed "help" from Fingon. Considering the rather rocky relationship that the two houses had in the past, it may have been more a matter of policy by Fingon to not be so involved and thus avoid antagonizing the House of Feanor. Fingon might have felt that causing that sort of split in the leadership that early might doom the cause before it begun, and the Union looked fairly hopeful (from their point of view) at the time. And I'm not certain that Orodreth would have taken too kindly to being ordered by the High King to become involved with the House of Feanor considering his familiy's rather unpleasant past. And Fingon did not really have the means, short of a really wasteful war, to force Orodreth to do anything. (It's a chronic problem with this sort of feudalistic kingship structure.) So Fingon avoided antagonizing Orodreth. Perhaps doing nothing seemed like the best way of keeping everyone reasonably satisfied.
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Hmm...
Though Fingon rescued Maedhros, I think he should have (and wisely so) waited for Maedhros to make the first move to unite with Fingolfin/Finarfin's side of the family, given the traits of Feanor and his sons. Also, I'm not sure Orodeth would've been so reluctant to help out. It's possible, but he did seem to have enough respect, faith, or patience to follow Feanor back to Middle-earth. If that sounds a little off, forgive me. Interesting question that I'm going to look further into in hopes of establishing a more qualified opinion.
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Well, actually Orodreth was one of the ones that was stranded out in the middle of nowhere when Feanor burned the ships. They had to go on to Middle earth or go back to Valinor, and going back to Valinor would have been bad for the ego so they went on to Middle earth.
And considering that Celegorm and Curufin had tried to oust Orodreth I think that it's a pretty safe assumption that he would not want to become involved in an enterprise started by their brother, nor would he appreciate Fingon ordering him to cooperate with them. Quote:
Take all this together and I don't think it would have done any good for Fingon to order Orodreth to do anything. [ June 15, 2002: Message edited by: Kuruharan ]
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(I'm ignoring the part of the Silmarils, for arguments sake).
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Duh...
It was late [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img]
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Well, I was planning to give a really good answer, but a couple people beat me to it! But maybe Fingon didn't involve himself more because he wasn't as close to Morgoth's territory as Maedhros was, and he felt that Morgoth's armies wouldn't reach him fast since his land was pretty much surrounded by mountains. That still doesn't say much though because Maedhros and Fingon were friends.
I'm not sure if that was a question about why Thingol didn't involve himself, but he wouldn't of anyway because of his grudge against the Noldor for the kin-slaying and he wasn't particulary fond of the sons of Feanor. Besides from the obvious, he felt that the others should take care of it because all of the bad things that started happening came from the return of the Noldor. He also felt that his region was safely protected by the Guard of Melian, so that's another added reason.
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I think that if the idea had come from Fingon, then Orodreth would have been more likely to cooperate, at least a little bit. At least as long as he did not have to deal too much with the Sons of Feanor.
Remember also that by this time the Elves of Nargothrond had pretty much decided to keep to themselves. I doubt that anything could have moved Thingol. He had never been particularly fond of the Noldor except for Finrod, and he always had 'isolationist' tendencies anyway. Then there was the matter of the Silmarils which we are convieniently ignoring. [ June 15, 2002: Message edited by: Kuruharan ]
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