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Kin-strife · 11-05-2001, 09:53 AM

Please pardon me while I selfishly pick the brains of some of the resident Tolkienoligists on this site. I'm writing a fan fiction. I've just finished the first chapter and want to check some things which I may need to edit.

1. Is there any mention of Cìrdan having a spouse?
2. Could Maia suffer from cold or hunger or were they free from these hold-ups unless made incarnate? (please say yes)
3. Was Curumo Sarumans name in Valinor or is it just Curunìr in Quenya?
4. (similar question) Were Alatar and Pallando names given to the blue wizards in Middle-earth or Valinor?

I would be eternally gratefull if anyone could shed some light on these subjects for me and I apoligise if anyone finds this post annoying.

***Mithadan*** · 11-05-2001, 12:50 PM

1. No, though this means nothing. He could have had a wife anyway.
2. My guess is that, unless incarnated Maiar would not suffer from cold or hunger. However, there is a distinction between being "clothed" in a body as the Valar were and being incarnated as the Istari were. The Istari would need food and could suffer cold. You might want to look at the Valaquenta though. There is a reference to the Valar eating either there or in the Silmarillion where a festival is discussed.
3. I think Curumo was his name in Valinor though I don't know the language.
4. Ditto.

Eldar14 · 11-05-2001, 02:07 PM

The thing where the Valar ate in a feast in Sil, it stated that the Valar didn't need food, well, at least I'm pretty sure I remember that correctly.

Kin-strife · 11-05-2001, 04:33 PM

I thank both Mithadan and Eldar14 respectively. No editing was required on the chapter. I also thank Sharku as well who helped answer the questions in the chat room.

11-05-2001, 09:53 AM	#1
Kin-strife Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 58	A selfish topic Please pardon me while I selfishly pick the brains of some of the resident Tolkienoligists on this site. I'm writing a fan fiction. I've just finished the first chapter and want to check some things which I may need to edit. 1. Is there any mention of Cìrdan having a spouse? 2. Could Maia suffer from cold or hunger or were they free from these hold-ups unless made incarnate? (please say yes) 3. Was Curumo Sarumans name in Valinor or is it just Curunìr in Quenya? 4. (similar question) Were Alatar and Pallando names given to the blue wizards in Middle-earth or Valinor? I would be eternally gratefull if anyone could shed some light on these subjects for me and I apoligise if anyone finds this post annoying. __________________ "Come away, O human child!/ To the waters and the wild/With a faery hand in hand,/ For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand."

11-05-2001, 12:50 PM	#2
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,374	1. No, though this means nothing. He could have had a wife anyway. 2. My guess is that, unless incarnated Maiar would not suffer from cold or hunger. However, there is a distinction between being "clothed" in a body as the Valar were and being incarnated as the Istari were. The Istari would need food and could suffer cold. You might want to look at the Valaquenta though. There is a reference to the Valar eating either there or in the Silmarillion where a festival is discussed. 3. I think Curumo was his name in Valinor though I don't know the language. 4. Ditto. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

11-05-2001, 02:07 PM	#3
Eldar14 Wight Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: the Cottage of Lost Play Posts: 182	The thing where the Valar ate in a feast in Sil, it stated that the Valar didn't need food, well, at least I'm pretty sure I remember that correctly. __________________ "Come away! Let the cowards keep this city!" -- Fëanor to the Noldor

11-05-2001, 04:33 PM	#4
Kin-strife Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 58	I thank both Mithadan and Eldar14 respectively. No editing was required on the chapter. I also thank Sharku as well who helped answer the questions in the chat room. __________________ "Come away, O human child!/ To the waters and the wild/With a faery hand in hand,/ For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand."