Awakened Analogies #2 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Beregond · 07-25-2001, 01:50 PM

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This is a continuation thread. It is Odysseus's turn! <img src=smile.gif ALT="

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<font size="-2">'They have come!' he said. 'Take courage and look! There are fell things below.'</p>

Telchar · 10-15-2001, 03:45 AM

Ody???

Turambar · 10-16-2001, 10:54 AM

This is the ghost of Odysseus.

Try this:

Maeglin is to Idril and WHO is to Niniel?

Elrian · 10-16-2001, 07:02 PM

Maeglin is a cousin to Idril as Tour is a cousin to Niniel? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Turambar · 10-16-2001, 08:24 PM

No, not Tuor.

Telchar · 10-17-2001, 01:20 AM

New line of thinking: Brandir - he loved Niniel and couldn't have her like Maeglin loved Idril and couldn't have her ??? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Turambar · 10-17-2001, 08:29 AM

Correct, Telchar -- unrequited love was the theme.

Elrian · 10-17-2001, 07:22 PM

Oops, yeah I guess I did forget the Theme part. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Telchar · 10-18-2001, 01:30 AM

Bingo is to Frodo as Bladorion is to________???

Turambar · 10-18-2001, 06:01 AM

Ard Galen ! (Bingo and Bladorion were the original names of Ard galen and Frodo)

Telchar · 10-19-2001, 07:50 AM

Very good Turambar - proceed [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Turambar · 10-23-2001, 11:30 AM

Dior is to Celegorm as ________________ is to Fingon?

Telchar · 10-24-2001, 06:42 AM

Gothmog

Turambar · 10-24-2001, 07:47 AM

Yep, the Danish Dwarf gets it.

Telchar · 10-30-2001, 02:56 AM

Easy one ...

Hurin is to Turgon as _______ is to Felagund

Turambar · 10-30-2001, 11:47 AM

Barahir -- his rescuer from among Men.

Telchar · 10-31-2001, 02:24 AM

Yes Go on Turambar [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Telchar · 11-26-2001, 02:51 AM

Turambar?????

Turambar · 11-26-2001, 07:39 AM

Sorry I lost the thread and I have trouble with these analogy questions. try this:

Luthien is to Beren as _____________ is to Maedhros.

Elenhin · 11-27-2001, 01:31 PM

Fingon - he rescued Maedhros from Morgoth, like Luthien rescued Beren from Sauron.

Turambar · 11-27-2001, 01:39 PM

Exactly.

Elenhin · 11-28-2001, 01:01 PM

Fingolfin is to Finwe as ________ is to Thingol.

Turambar · 11-28-2001, 04:12 PM

Dior ?

Telchar · 11-29-2001, 04:07 AM

Luthien

Elenhin · 11-29-2001, 12:39 PM

Turambar got it - Dior was Thingol's heir to throne.

Telchar · 11-30-2001, 04:33 AM

Fingolfin was not the Heir of Finwe! Fëanor was! Fingolfin was named HighKing of the Noldor after Fëanors death.
So the question should be Fingolfin is to Feanor as _______ is to Thingol - and if that had been the case I would have said Olve - and been wrong anyhow [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ November 30, 2001: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Turambar · 11-30-2001, 11:27 AM

I think we need Tar Elenion and/or Michael Martinez to smack down the dwarf at this point. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Turambar · 11-30-2001, 12:00 PM

Gil-galad is to spear as Tuor is to ________?

Elenhin · 11-30-2001, 02:21 PM

Telchar: You're right in that... I chose my words poorly. I actually meant that Fingolfin was the next High King after Finwe - even though Feanor led the Noldor in the rebelllion, he was never called the High King.

If I recall correctly Gil-galad used Aeglos, a spear, and Tuor used Dramborleg, an axe.

Turambar · 11-30-2001, 02:41 PM

THAT IS OF COURSE RIGHT, ELENHIN.

Elenhin · 12-01-2001, 10:22 AM

Ok - I'll try to express myself clearer this time.

Ilmare is to Varda as ______ is to Manwe.

Telchar · 12-03-2001, 02:40 AM

Eönwë, the Herald of Manwe .... In earlier myth both he and Ilmarë was considered the son and daughter of Varda and Manwë

Elenhin · 12-03-2001, 09:55 AM

Yep - Ilmare was the greatest of Varda's Maiar and Eonwe was the greatest of Manwe's Maiar.

Telchar · 04-14-2002, 05:18 AM

Voronwe was to Tuor what _______ was to Frodo?

twinkle · 04-14-2002, 06:02 AM

Voronwe met with Tuor at Vinyamar and guided him to Gondolin....perhaps Strider is the one you are looking for then?
He met Frodo at The Prancing Pony and guided him at least to Amon Sul....
however, this may not be the idea you were after [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] in which case, i'll keep digging [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

twinkle

Telchar · 04-14-2002, 06:30 AM

Well there can be several answers - I was actually thinking of Smeagol as a guide - but Strider fits just as well [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] so please continue [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ April 14, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

twinkle · 04-16-2002, 01:48 PM

thx telch [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

here goes a question courtesy of Art_R....
i couldn't come up with an analogy fast enough and seeing as i'm already receiving hatemail to continue [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] thx Art_R for your magnanimous help [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gwaihir is to Gandalf what ____ is to Frodo

twinkle

Bruce MacCulloch · 04-16-2002, 04:31 PM

Either Landroval or Menelvor. The book isn't very clear as to which of them carried Frodo and which carried Sam.

Telchar · 04-16-2002, 04:55 PM

Sam!

I - lol - have to add a lil something to that answer, so here goes: Gwaihir carried Gandalf! Either one of the beforenamed three eagles carried Frodo. But also Sam carried Frodo on mount Doom, Asfaloth to the Ford, Bill The Pony (some where I think) and Aragorn In Moria + The snow.
Gwaihir Rescues Gandalf from Orthanc! Sam rescues Frodo from The Tower of Cirith Ungol, Tom Bombadil from The Barrow!

Sam fits both, so thats my answer - good ol' Sam!!!

[ April 16, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

twinkle · 04-19-2002, 01:13 PM

sorry, sorry, sorry....
should've answered sooner.....

where bruce is not incorrect, the answer was indeed sam.....

the floor is yours master dwarf [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

twinkle

07-25-2001, 01:50 PM	#1
Beregond Playful Ghoul Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,251	Awakened Analogies #2 <font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Playful Ghoul Posts: 718</TD><TD><img src=http://members.attcanada.ca/~kind1/beregond.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> This is a continuation thread. It is Odysseus's turn! <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> <font size="-2">'They have come!' he said. 'Take courage and look! There are fell things below.'</p> __________________ "Hope and memory shall live still in some hidden valley where the grass is green."

10-16-2001, 10:54 AM	#3
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	This is the ghost of Odysseus. Try this: Maeglin is to Idril and WHO is to Niniel? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-16-2001, 07:02 PM	#4
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	Maeglin is a cousin to Idril as Tour is a cousin to Niniel? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

10-16-2001, 08:24 PM	#5
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	No, not Tuor. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-17-2001, 01:20 AM	#6
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	New line of thinking: Brandir - he loved Niniel and couldn't have her like Maeglin loved Idril and couldn't have her ??? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-15-2001, 03:45 AM	#2
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Ody??? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-17-2001, 08:29 AM	#7
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Correct, Telchar -- unrequited love was the theme. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-17-2001, 07:22 PM	#8
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	Oops, yeah I guess I did forget the Theme part. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

10-18-2001, 01:30 AM	#9
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Bingo is to Frodo as Bladorion is to________??? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-18-2001, 06:01 AM	#10
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Ard Galen ! (Bingo and Bladorion were the original names of Ard galen and Frodo) __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-19-2001, 07:50 AM	#11
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Very good Turambar - proceed [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-23-2001, 11:30 AM	#12
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Dior is to Celegorm as ________________ is to Fingon? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-24-2001, 06:42 AM	#13
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Gothmog __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-24-2001, 07:47 AM	#14
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yep, the Danish Dwarf gets it. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-30-2001, 02:56 AM	#15
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Easy one ... Hurin is to Turgon as _______ is to Felagund __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-30-2001, 11:47 AM	#16
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Barahir -- his rescuer from among Men. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-31-2001, 02:24 AM	#17
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Yes Go on Turambar [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-26-2001, 02:51 AM	#18
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Turambar????? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-26-2001, 07:39 AM	#19
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Sorry I lost the thread and I have trouble with these analogy questions. try this: Luthien is to Beren as _____________ is to Maedhros. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-27-2001, 01:31 PM	#20
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Fingon - he rescued Maedhros from Morgoth, like Luthien rescued Beren from Sauron.

11-27-2001, 01:39 PM	#21
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Exactly. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-28-2001, 01:01 PM	#22
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Fingolfin is to Finwe as ________ is to Thingol.

11-28-2001, 04:12 PM	#23
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Dior ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-29-2001, 04:07 AM	#24
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Luthien __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-29-2001, 12:39 PM	#25
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Turambar got it - Dior was Thingol's heir to throne.

11-30-2001, 04:33 AM	#26
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Fingolfin was not the Heir of Finwe! Fëanor was! Fingolfin was named HighKing of the Noldor after Fëanors death. So the question should be Fingolfin is to Feanor as _______ is to Thingol - and if that had been the case I would have said Olve - and been wrong anyhow [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [ November 30, 2001: Message edited by: Telchar ] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-30-2001, 11:27 AM	#27
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	I think we need Tar Elenion and/or Michael Martinez to smack down the dwarf at this point. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-30-2001, 12:00 PM	#28
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Gil-galad is to spear as Tuor is to ________? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-30-2001, 02:21 PM	#29
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Telchar: You're right in that... I chose my words poorly. I actually meant that Fingolfin was the next High King after Finwe - even though Feanor led the Noldor in the rebelllion, he was never called the High King. If I recall correctly Gil-galad used Aeglos, a spear, and Tuor used Dramborleg, an axe.

11-30-2001, 02:41 PM	#30
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	THAT IS OF COURSE RIGHT, ELENHIN. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

12-01-2001, 10:22 AM	#31
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Ok - I'll try to express myself clearer this time. Ilmare is to Varda as ______ is to Manwe.

12-03-2001, 02:40 AM	#32
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Eönwë, the Herald of Manwe .... In earlier myth both he and Ilmarë was considered the son and daughter of Varda and Manwë __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-03-2001, 09:55 AM	#33
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Yep - Ilmare was the greatest of Varda's Maiar and Eonwe was the greatest of Manwe's Maiar.

04-14-2002, 05:18 AM	#34
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Voronwe was to Tuor what _______ was to Frodo? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

04-14-2002, 06:02 AM	#35
twinkle Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: my little blooming garden Posts: 45	Voronwe met with Tuor at Vinyamar and guided him to Gondolin....perhaps Strider is the one you are looking for then? He met Frodo at The Prancing Pony and guided him at least to Amon Sul.... however, this may not be the idea you were after [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] in which case, i'll keep digging [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] twinkle __________________ “For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomable at the foundations of the Earth.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion