Game thread - Werewolf C - The Father Christmas Murders

[Loslote]

On a cold, cold Night on a cold, cold ledge midway up the cliff outside Christmastown, two conspirators met to plot nefarious deeds.

Meanwhile, two scowling citizens of Christmas town glowered at the 'conspirators' with their 'commercialism' and their 'profits'.

"I'm sick of it all, I really am," the first said.

"And this Christmastown isn't helping matters any," the second said. "Father Christmas did no one any favors there - all Christmas all the time! It was bad enough when it was just one day a year. Now it drives me crazy every day of the year!"

"You'd think the rest of the town would feel the same way."

"Well, if they don't yet...we'll make them fell that way."

The two grinned silently at each other.


Living

Sally - Little Cindy Lou Who
Shasta - Jack Frost
G55 - Rudolph
Coppermirror - The Ghost of Christmas Present
Steve - Valkotukka
Morsul - The Grinch
Nerwen - The Sugar Plum Fairy
Zil - Frosty
Boro - Olive the Other Reindeer
McCaber - Tiny Tim
Lommy - Paksu
Legate - Santa Claus

Dead

No one - yet

Night folk, start...Night folking. Wolves chat, Seer dream. Night 1 begins now!

[Loslote]

Suzy Snowflake hurried down the street, clutching her lace white shawl to her against the sudden flurry of wind and snow. She was nearly home, and she'd be so glad to sleep in her own bed after so long abroad.

"Well, well, well," she heard echoing around the walls of the quiet buildings along the quiet street. She paused.

"Hello?" she called timidly.

"I think we've figured out who's causing this little blizzard of ours," chuckled a second voice.

"We can't have Christmas without a little snow," said the first.

"Good," said the second.

Suzy was beginning to back away nervously when the two stepped out of the fog towards her. She instantly relaxed. "Oh, it's just you two!" she said with a laugh. "I must have been away for too long - I've gotten paranoid!"

"Too long, yes, you have," murmured the one on the left. "We've been waiting for you."

"Oh, is there going to be a Christmastown party?" Suzy asked brightly.

"You could say that."

"Oh, how lovely! Will there be presents?" Suzy clapped her hands in delight.

"Left on everyone's doorstep."

Suzy beamed. "And decorations?"

"Of course."

"And punch and eggnog?"

"Well, drinks, at any rate."

Suzy blinked. "No eggnog?"

"I'm not a fan."

"But where's your Christmas spirit?" Suzy asked in dismay. "You have to have eggnog at Christmas! It's a tradition!"

"I'm a modern man, myself," the quieter of the two announced. "I make my own traditions."

With that, the two stepped forward and threw electric blankets over her head. Suzy shrieked, but the sound was too muffled to attract attention. The two swaddled her up in more electric blankets until she couldn't move an inch, then left her lying in the street.

"And they swaddled her in cloth and laid her in the street, because there was no room for her in their plans," chortled the first.

"New traditions, indeed," murmured the second.

As Suzy Snowflake's trademark snow fell on her, the electric blankets quickly melted it into a pool of water...which soon rose high enough to short out the carefully exposed wires that warmed the blanket. Suzy's muffled screams echoed the electric shocks until she screamed no more.

That morning, as the sun rose and pierced the fog, the inhabitants of Christmastown didn’t take long to discover the body. The smoke and steam acted like a beacon, leading directly to Suzy’s blanket-entombed body.

“What happened?” Olive asked. “Things like this never happened back home! Or, at least, not since we trapped the postman at the zoo.”

“I can’t imagine it was an accident,” The Grinch said.

“I foretold you so,” the Ghost of Christmas Present wailed mournfully.

Jack Frost slammed his fists into a nearby wall. “How could this happen?” he snarled.

“Suzy never hurt a soul,” the Sugar Plum Fairy said sadly. “All the children loved her.”

“Whoever did this, if they could kill Suzy, they could kill anyone,” Valkotukka said.

“We’ve got to find who did this,” Santa said.

“Before they kill again,” Paksu agreed.

“Oh, sure,” Tiny Tim said, “and how are we going to find the murderers? Look for fingerprints on the electricity burns?”

“And besides, they’re probably standing here among us,” Rudolph said. “How can we trust anyone?”

“We can’t,” Frosty said. “We’d better go by majority vote, or we’ll never know for sure.”

“And then what do we do with them, once we’ve found them?” Little Cindy Lou Who asked.

“Kill them,” Jack Frost growled. “Kill them, like they killed Suzy.”

A silence fell over the group as they realized what they were about to do. Then, as the sun finally crested the mountains, the group nodded solemnly, one by one.

Living

Sally - Little Cindy Lou Who
Shasta - Jack Frost
G55 - Rudolph
Coppermirror - The Ghost of Christmas Present
Steve - Valkotukka
Morsul - The Grinch
Nerwen - The Sugar Plum Fairy
Zil - Frosty
Boro - Olive the Other Reindeer
McCaber - Tiny Tim
Lommy - Paksu
Legate - Santa Claus

Dead

Lottie - Suzy the Snowflake - Moddess

Day 1 has begun. Wolves, stop talking to each other. Village, good luck!

[Galadriel55]

Shoty first post.


Just realized that I'm actually barely going to be home tomorrow, but hopefully enough to post meaningful stuff. I'll vote, but I can't guarantee 100% participation.

[Galadriel55]

PS: We should make a monument of snow in Suzy's honour. Make a giant snowflake snowman!...

[Boromir88]

okokclak onk owk clik ockockwonk

(Hopefully someone here knows how to translate reindeer speech )

[Morsul the Dark]

What a Fright and nasty Shock!
Time's shrt mind the ticking ticking Clock
We can not stop for meals
until we settle these ordeals
So take away the platter Sam
Take away the Green Eggs and Ham
To stop this nasty snow? That's just Fine!
But to kill? That crosses a line!
A pair of nasties we need stop
cut out their gizzard and off their heads with a chop
I don't like it all It's all too mean
And that's coming from someone who is Green
Trully the three wrds that best describe these beast are as follows and I quote: Stink Stank Stunk!
We must hunt them down I say get out f this terrible funk.
End their plans ploys
silence their noise noise noise!

....sorry had way to much fun with that ended up longer than I meant

Pretty basic:
two baddies
one Cobbler
one ranger
one seer

Lets us hunt quickly and ring in the new year with a Village Victory Huzzah!

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

okokclak onk owk clik ockockwonk

(Hopefully someone here knows how to translate reindeer speech )

Well I never!

[Coppermirror]

Did I not tell you that upon the forehead of Suzy Snowflake, that which is Doom was written? Alas that you did not listen.

Hark! Once more, that which is Doom is written upon the forehead of one of our number. We must erase that writing, or else bide our time until the end.

A monument for Suzy Snowflake is a fine idea. I shall be glad to assist its construction; such a jolly thing would do honour to her. But still - beware, beware!

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Olive the Other Reindeer

okokclak onk owk clik ockockwonk

(Hopefully someone here knows how to translate reindeer speech )

*pirouettes in, scattering sugarplums*

Ah! Allow me!

Consulting Reindeer for Beginners, I find that

"okokclak onk owk clik ockockwonk"

translates to

"I am a werewolf disguised as a terrier disguised as a reindeer. Please lynch me before I die of confusion."

Well, well!

[Coppermirror]

Is that so? Borolive, what have you to say for yourself?

P.S.

My friends, beware of sinister footsteps in the snow! Their specific size and shape I do not know, but truly the prints of evil are amongst us.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

If it is supposed to be an investigation, then let's make it a proper one. I suggest starting by making a house-search in every place. If we can't get into some houses, I'm pretty good in crawling down chimneys.

So otherwise, as for more practical questions... maybe one thing that should be cleared about the rules (maybe the Moddess should actually answer this, if she happens to be reading?), the Cobbler does count in the tally as innocent or as Wolf? (As in, if it's e.g. 2 Wolves, a Cobbler and three innocents... though maybe it doesn't matter in the end, since in such a case the point is anyway avoiding the stage when it's 2 Wolves, a Cobbler and two innocents.) And regarding Seer-dreams, since it hasn't been mentioned in the rules, I assume the Cobbler shows normally as Cobbler to the Seer, and not as innocent, like it was in some games...

I think, since somebody has mentioned this as well, I might remark that I might be slightly less active these days than usual, too, but I think it should not really be that much less. I'll be back again and around, also once more people show up, with some initial impressions...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

*pirouettes in, scattering sugarplums*

Ah! Allow me!

Consulting Reindeer for Beginners, I find that

"okokclak onk owk clik ockockwonk"

translates to

"I am a werewolf disguised as a terrier disguised as a reindeer. Please lynch me before I die of confusion."

Well, well!

Oh, really? My book gives:

"I am a cobbler disguised as an ordo disguised as a reindeer. Wolves please not my future use of reindeer language."

[Inziladun]

Oh dear me. Poor Suzy! I start to melt just thinking about it!
Please do me a favor, and keep an eye out for the sun. It and I don't get along so well.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

PS: We should make a monument of snow in Suzy's honour. Make a giant snowflake snowman!...

All right, but that snowman will have to have a hat of their own. This one's taken!

[Thinlómien]

Sally - Little Cindy Lou Who
Little Cindy Lou Who exactly. Hasn't been around.

Shasta - Jack Frost
Has probably frozen so can't type.

G55 - Rudolph
Already making apologies and excuses. How furry! Oh, I guess reindeer have furs... or do you call them pelts? Hides?

Coppermirror - The Ghost of Christmas Present
Never played with him/her before. Only saw Bêthberry asking on Facebook who admits playing werewolf under the name Coppermirror on the 'downs. I assume this means I have to be wary.

Steve - Valkotukka
If we had a werebear in the village, I know where I'd be pointing at.

Morsul - The Grinch
I remember why he always instantly makes my alarm bells ring. Trying to ignore it as well as I can...

Nerwen - The Sugar Plum Fairy
Her PT doesn't really match with her words.

Zil - Frosty
A pity it's holiday season so he's not playing ww on his work time. Other than that, nothing to say.

Boro - Olive the Other Reindeer
Sending fishy coded messages in reindeer speech - lynch him!

McCaber - Tiny Tim
Didn't see him yet, did we?

Lommy - Paksu
Has a fitting name, that's all.

Legate - Santa Claus
Still laughing at this casting. I liked his asking the clarifying questions, but it of course doesn't prove anything.

[Boromir88]

Is it sad I watched 3 different videos of reindeer calls to try and get the sounds as accurately as possible? It was like a cross between a pig and a wookie.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Is it sad I watched 3 different videos of reindeer calls to try and get the sounds as accurately as possible? It was like a cross between a pig and a wookie.

Be careful. That sound has likely been patented.

[satansaloser2005]

I'm sorry I've just shown up. I've just *sobs* I've been crying all Day. Why would someone do something so horrible to Suzy?

[Boromir88]

And here's what I've concluded so far...

Nothing new to say:

Sally and Shasta have yet to appear. Slow to get moving, but they will come.

Nerwen participates early, but will forget to vote today. I would say though, since we've already had the apocalypse, you can vote Day 1 and you don't have to feel like you're ending the world?

Those who have early on made me laugh:

Morsul's poetry was a lot better than Bombadil banging on about water lilies. Also, better than anything you get out those terrible poetry readings from psuedo-poets that get you so depressed you wish you would have snuck in that bottle of bourbon.

Zil's latest post, heh sounding like a cross between a pig and a wookie...classic.

Why so serious?

Legate - Could have possibly put him up in the first one, since it is nothing new for Legate to be all business, even on holiday leave...well actually I suppose this is the busiest time of the season for him. Watch and Wait.

Why so seriously unserious?

G55 - the snowflake snowman monument combined with

Lommy - List of people post is about as telling as mine. But where mine is seriously acknowledged as limitted to start and help me categorizing people (yep, sorry I fit people into personal compartments). I can't tell if Lommy's is a serious attempt to look unserious and random. Or if it's an unserious attempt to start the serious suspicion train a moving.

Coppermirror - What do I say about Nerwen's translation? It's quite wrong, but as the Sugar Plum Fairy I imagine she went for the literal translation just looking at a "Reindeer to Fairy dictionary." She clearly did not pick up the slight phonetic alterations between the ock and ok which significantly changes the meaning.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

G55 - the snowflake snowman monument combined with

And somehow I just stopped mid thought here...should be combined with a "I won't be here, but I kinda will" first post. Because as far as I know, reindeer don't have construction skills, it's why we have elves.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Apologies. I was dealing with the weather; it will snow upon Suzy's grave forever more. And no, I'm not telling you what I had to promise the North Wind for that little favor.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Oh dear me. Poor Suzy! I start to melt just thinking about it!
Please do me a favor, and keep an eye out for the sun. It and I don't get along so well.



All right, but that snowman will have to have a hat of their own. This one's taken!

Not sure why... but read this in a dixie southern woman's voice and it was Hilarious anyway catching up on what little is here...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

And somehow I just stopped mid thought here...should be combined with a "I won't be here, but I kinda will" first post. Because as far as I know, reindeer don't have construction skills, it's why we have elves.

Hey! Don't you underestimate reindeer abilities!

...Wait, you are one.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Is it sad I watched 3 different videos of reindeer calls to try and get the sounds as accurately as possible? It was like a cross between a pig and a wookie.

Is it sad after reading this, I watched any videos I could find with reindeer sounds to see if there was a certain call being imitated, to be interpretted?

I think this will be a silly game. And thank you for your kind words of my rambling Seussosity.

[Galadriel55]

...whatever the above is supposed to mean.


Legate's post made me laugh about the first part and go "well, that's a valid question" in the second part. Modlote, if you happen to read this, I add my voice to the plea for elaboration.

Boro makes a semi-serious post, which I'm not sure how to interpret. I can't really tell how seriously it should be taken. But it's a good attempt to transition people from IC to the real stuff.

Not much beyond this. Except for the Reindeer talk translations. I was trying to piece it together for a while, what would it mean if Lommy/Nerwen/Boro had certain roles, but then gave up on it because it's semi-banter and while it could be a message it could just be banter and it's useless to go in this endless cycle. Message! Banter! Message! Banter!...


Hopefully this will get some talk started.

I'll be around every now and then between now and DL, cause the day turned out less busy than I thought. Goodie.

EDIT: xed with Morsul

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Is it sad after reading this, I watched any videos I could find with reindeer sounds to see if there was a certain call being imitated, to be interpretted?

Is it sad that I was just doing the same thing too some 5 minutes ago?

[Morsul the Dark]

Not, sure if I'll be back before DL... A lot of people not even gotten a chance to speak yet...

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

So otherwise, as for more practical questions... maybe one thing that should be cleared about the rules (maybe the Moddess should actually answer this, if she happens to be reading?), the Cobbler does count in the tally as innocent or as Wolf?

Innocent. (Does the Cobbler ever count as a Wolf? I don't think I've played that way before.)

And regarding Seer-dreams, since it hasn't been mentioned in the rules, I assume the Cobbler shows normally as Cobbler to the Seer, and not as innocent, like it was in some games...

That is correct.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

To the Moddess, thanks for clarification, now to the rest...

Okay, I do not want to start sounding like Nog... and I won't, I will just say that had he been here, we'd have been likely all mass-lynched by now. I am not blameless myself and I do not take away anyone's right to post random IC banter and so on... I think in fact it was quite refreshing, let's have fun, but.

But as the Day goes on, and more people show, even though not all yet (due to timezones or whatever), but if you are around, and not sure you are coming back, then you might at least try to post something beyond the IC banter *looks at Mr.Grinch*

Not the least because timezone-wise, I will probably have to cast my vote in something like two, three hours (well, and the rest of us will have to cast it a couple of hours after that anyway). And I would not like it to go that randomly as it seems to me now.

Because what do we have of substance? Truthfully, nothing, unless all those, very many, sometimes even long IC posts contain some hints and secret meanings. Which I am pretty sure some do. After all, we have a Cobbler. However, the problem is we are not really trying to catch the Cobbler, but the Wolves.

So actually if I were to throw an utterly random guess, I'd look for people who might look like Cobblers and people who might try to "answer" to these people. Boro-Nerwen-Lommy exchange is what sort of stands out in this respect from the general banter, however there is nothing more about it than that it stands out (and then of course one can question how much of that is a joke or observation of warning against the Wolves - especially referring to Lommy's post now - and so on).

But well! Maybe people can actually start telling their opinions on some of these things (or others), so that we can move a bit before the DL? (I really hate sounding this starchy, but.)

[Boromir88]

Well, it really just comes down to a normal Day 1 conundrum.

1. No information to base much of anything on.
2. Wait to see if someone else does something in order to start
3. Leads to a bunch of staring, as the best information comes in the forms of the voting record (excluding gifted information/reveals)
4. Go back to 1. No votes = no information.

I suppose others comments on the Lommy-Nerwen-Me posts will be as good of a starting point as any other. Personally, I would put Copper in there too, who asked what I had to say about Nerwen's translation.

[McCaber]

*cough cough*

Sorry I'm late, folks. It's this leg, you see. I can't get around fast enough on these crutches.

That means it's my responsibility to get abandoned in the inevitable wolf chase scene. I'm sure none of you would have an objection to leaving the pitiful cripple behind for the wolves?

...

(please have an objection to leaving the cripple behind for the wolves)

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

To the Moddess, thanks for clarification, now to the rest...

Okay, I do not want to start sounding like Nog... and I won't, I will just say that had he been here, we'd have been likely all mass-lynched by now. I am not blameless myself and I do not take away anyone's right to post random IC banter and so on... I think in fact it was quite refreshing, let's have fun, but.

But as the Day goes on, and more people show, even though not all yet (due to timezones or whatever), but if you are around, and not sure you are coming back, then you might at least try to post something beyond the IC banter *looks at Mr.Grinch*

Not the least because timezone-wise, I will probably have to cast my vote in something like two, three hours (well, and the rest of us will have to cast it a couple of hours after that anyway). And I would not like it to go that randomly as it seems to me now.

Because what do we have of substance? Truthfully, nothing, unless all those, very many, sometimes even long IC posts contain some hints and secret meanings. Which I am pretty sure some do. After all, we have a Cobbler. However, the problem is we are not really trying to catch the Cobbler, but the Wolves.

So actually if I were to throw an utterly random guess, I'd look for people who might look like Cobblers and people who might try to "answer" to these people. Boro-Nerwen-Lommy exchange is what sort of stands out in this respect from the general banter, however there is nothing more about it than that it stands out (and then of course one can question how much of that is a joke or observation of warning against the Wolves - especially referring to Lommy's post now - and so on).

But well! Maybe people can actually start telling their opinions on some of these things (or others), so that we can move a bit before the DL? (I really hate sounding this starchy, but.)

Why'd I get singled out? Given Boro's hinting style I had a legitimate idea he might have been hining... with reindeer calls I don't know, it was a thought ad I shared it.

So far
Boro seemingpretty tame
Thin tosed out some general feelings in what looks like a genuine attempt to get the ball rolling.
Legate This post seems like a good a jumping point as any
Galadriel had same thought as me regarding Boro which scaresme not furry scary just in general Galadriel might want get checked if she thinks like me... shudders

everyone else not enugh to say much about.

[Coppermirror]

I'm unsure what tactic we ought to take. I'm adoring the fun banter on this Day, but that won't help us to catch the villains. Then again, setting up some sort of scheme that would soon be discarded might be a waste of time too, unless someone has a really good suggestion and it can be implemented quickly.

I know! We must let the joy of Christmas fill our hearts. The fiends we are facing have tightly wound hearts which hate Christmas, like that miser Scrooge. When they speak of their love of the season, they may betray themselves inadvertently.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Coppermirror - The Ghost of Christmas Present
Never played with him/her before. Only saw Bêthberry asking on Facebook who admits playing werewolf under the name Coppermirror on the 'downs. I assume this means I have to be wary.

I'm but a harmless Ghost who likes to spread good cheer.

This is my third game. I'd read a lot of old games (starting from the oldest games, in order) as a hobby of mine before signing up for my first game, so I sounded a lot better informed than the average newbie Werewolf player, and a few people got suspicious about whether I could be someone who'd played before under a new name or somebody who had experience with the game elsewhere. But, that really was my first game of Werewolf or anything like it. I made plenty of newbie mistakes in my first game, but they just weren't the type of newbie mistakes people were most used to. Being informed about theory doesn''t make up for lack of experience.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'm around, relatively, but there just hasn't really been anything that's caught my eye enough to mention. I'm going to go eat, then have another read - it's all been pretty quiet, thus far. Legate seems to be the only person really discussing much.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Apologies. I was dealing with the weather; it will snow upon Suzy's grave forever more. And no, I'm not telling you what I had to promise the North Wind for that little favor.

Sounds like a guilty conscience to me.

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Not sure why... but read this in a dixie southern woman's voice and it was Hilarious

Well, I could speak it that way quite convincingly...the Dixie part, that is.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Not much beyond this. Except for the Reindeer talk translations. I was trying to piece it together for a while, what would it mean if Lommy/Nerwen/Boro had certain roles, but then gave up on it because it's semi-banter and while it could be a message it could just be banter and it's useless to go in this endless cycle. Message! Banter! Message! Banter!...

I've looked into the matter. However, I don't think speculation of any real meaning would be useful at this point, and it could be damaging, at least to those in the Christmas spirit...

x/d with Shasta

[McCaber]

Going totally by my gut, I suspect Legate Claus. Nothing happens in this town without the Big Man knowing about it.

Last I checked, reindeer and wolves were mortal enemies. Which means Boro's probably on the level. Unless he sold us out in exchange for safe passage.

CM I have no experience with, so I'm going to leave him be for now.

Shasta, like myself, has a history of saying much less than he thinks. His instincts are usually pretty correct unless something changed massively in the past year or so I've been away.

G55 and Boro have been first to the analysis of posts. But it's early yet, and for Day1 things aren't going too badly.

[Coppermirror]

It looks as if the only discussion point we have at the moment is about Reindeer language and the assorted translations and comments on it. On the face of it, that all looks like 100% innocent banter to me, and I wouldn't feel at all confident about voting for anyone based on that.

But, I've been wrong about apparently meaningless first Day banter before. I'll have another look as see if, IDK, there are any secret messages hidden in those posts, and then see if I can scrape together any actual suspicions of anyone from the little there is to go on.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by McCaber

Going totally by my gut, I suspect Legate Claus. Nothing happens in this town without the Big Man knowing about it.

Singing a slaying song, is he?

Man, I need to try for once getting all my Christmas stuff done sooner. My brief skims of this haven't led to much thus far, but we've still got some time.

[Thinlómien]

Ugh. I should really go to sleep and vote (in the opposite order of course) and I really have no idea what to think, say or vote. Hmm. Another list in order? Seems like the easiest way to think...

[Thinlómien]

Sally - nothing to say this far.
Shasta - the same.
G55 - well I wasn't only joking when I noted she was being apologetic. She's not saying much although she's been around - then again, who has?
Coppermirror - one of the ones that don't seem suspicious at all to me.
Steve - not here.
Morsul - actually, I think he seems pretty innocent right now. I would still appreciate if he clarified the stuff he's hinting at.
Nerwen - hasn't said much of importance.
Zil - seems to be using his time on bantering. I'm not sure if it's suspicious or sort of pre-Christmas laziness that I feel a victim of myself.
Boro - Othe one whose posts have been the most interesting this far. Not that I can make much out of them. I mostly rely on my gut-feeling when it comes to Boro, and I haven't got one yet in this game.
McCaber - seems pretty fair this far.
Legate - can't judge this far, but I'm not alarmed.

So who to vote? Absolutely no idea... let me think.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Lommy - List of people post is about as telling as mine. But where mine is seriously acknowledged as limitted to start and help me categorizing people (yep, sorry I fit people into personal compartments). I can't tell if Lommy's is a serious attempt to look unserious and random. Or if it's an unserious attempt to start the serious suspicion train a moving.

I wanted to write a serious post but I realised pretty soon there's really nothing to go on by, so it ended up being 85% jokey. But I did pay attention to G55 apologies-in-advance and to your post which could have included a coded message. (To be fair, so could have Morsul's poetic first post, but yours struck me more that way.)