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06-05-2009, 02:58 PM | #1 | |
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Bilbo actor announced soon
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07-18-2009, 07:58 AM | #2 |
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My husband, the big newsgroup and blog reader, told me yesterday that Daniel Radcliffe had been cast as Bilbo for the Hobbit movie, though I don't recall what source he got it from. Interesting choice, if so. Wouldn't have expected that.
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the characters (partially due to the movies taking longer then book time to make). Had that been done Radcliffe could have diversified more, not been typecast, and been more credible and prepared for the role. Having said that, if he can be suitably "aged" and "girthed" (Bilbo was never svelte ) physically he'd be fine,but acting range wise ??? Perhaps the idea's to bring in fangirls since Legolas couldn't have much (if any) appearance in the films.
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07-18-2009, 01:46 PM | #4 | |
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As far as James McAvoy and David Tennant the other alleged choices for Bilbo, I'm not terribly familiar with their works. I'd rather see a new and somewhat unknown actor come into the role, though I feel that will be unlikely.
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07-18-2009, 07:11 PM | #5 | |
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Daniel Radcliffe? You have to be kidding me. Hopefully this has no credibility.
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I suspect some of our resident 'Downers wouldn't mind the Dr. Who actor, although I've only seen one episode of it, so can't tell you about him. With getting older, I think all of the young HP actors have improved, but Radcliffe is still pretty wooden and boring to watch, and I think the others over-act at times, as if they are stage actors. But they are certainly better than from the first couple. I would even suggest to go and watch the rest of 'em, I still think Prisoner of Azkaban has been the best one, but they have all significantly improved acting-wise and emotionally. Still doesn't mean I want Radcliffe as Bilbo, I don't want him in the movie at all to tell you the truth. If true, this would be a huge blunder, and I may beg Peter to take over directing. Edit: GDT also hinted that he wants Ron Perlman (played Hellboy) in the film, possibly as the voice of Smaug, yet he has 'bigger' plans for Perlman. They really must want to cut back on casting costs to save money on nifty SFX
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Acting skills aside, Danny boy is way too young! Bilbo was 50 when he went There and Back Again. Granted that hobbits age slower, as they come of age at 33, a hobbit of 50 should probably look like a man in his early or mid thirties.
If this was 20 years ago, I think Colm Meaney would have made a great Bilbo. He's too old now, but he would have had the perfect stature - both physically and acting-wise.
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07-19-2009, 09:30 AM | #7 |
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Daniel Radcliffe as Bilbo Baggins. Shades of Frolijah anyone? I agree that while Radcliffe has improved as an actor he doesn't always sell his scenes. Besides I thought he was tied up finishing the last two Potter movies?
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07-19-2009, 09:48 AM | #8 |
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If any Doctor Who actor would make a good Bilbo I would have said Sylvester McCoy, but ultimately, I'm not sure any of the surviving ones really fit the role. Tennant is especially unsuited in my opinion. If he is in any way involved with the film I'd suspect he was getting the Bard the Bowman role if anything. Of course, we're assuming no new characters are being invented for it...
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Well, you know, there is a dearth of female characters in TH, and everybody knows that Hollywood thinks a romance is good for the pocketbook. Maybe they'll get Lucy Lawless to do a female Bard and she and Bilbo can share a certain kind of longing look.
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07-19-2009, 01:43 PM | #10 |
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I think Sylvester McCoy would make a great Bilbo, he seemed
like one of the more sympathetic and empathetic doctors. As for a female role, just fudge 10 years or so with Aragorn's age (and does anyone think that would bother PJ?) and you've got the beginning of the Aragorn/Arwen bit, together with an appearance (and death scene) by his mother.
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It could be the beginning of a great romance. And if PJ pulls a George Lucas and releases a LOTR special edition this female Bard can be digitally added in certain scenes, despite how illogical that would be.
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I can only imagine that casting Tennant as Bilbo would be as a somewhat cynical ploy to appeal to his Dr Who fanbas who probably form the desired demographic. Who ain't my bag but Tennant is a fine actor who I could see in other Tolkienian roles (Eol maybe) but he is just to lanky and fey to play a hobbit - even a son of Belladonna Took. Smacks of desperation maybe?
Daniel Radcliffe might make a good Bilbo in 20 years... MC Avoy is definitely the closest . I wouldn't say he "falls off the page" but given that this film is unlikely to be more true to Bilbo than the others were to Frodo, he could be an intersting choice. I can see him getting the restless Took side even if it is harder to see him as the bourgeouis Mr Baggins..
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I admire David Tennant's acting abilities, but I don't think that he is fit for the Hobbit, maybe for the Sil, but I could never get over this line: "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry." He would never do!
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Of course, given PJ's penchant for "creativity" there
might be a Legolas tryst with a Laketown female archer (who barvely brings the red arrow to Bard just before Smaug kills her).
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PeeWee Herman as Beorn?
(OK... I'm ashamed of myself for even suggesting that in jest. I'm a bad, bad boy...)
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4732841/...ons_The_Hobbit Here is a brief but illuminating dialogue: Bilbo was fidgeting as he paced inside Elrond’s chambers. “Now Gandalf, just who is this Master Elrond again?” “He is a descendant of a great old family,” Gandalf replied succinctly. “Quite famous, actually. His great-grandfather was the mortal Beren who was wed to Luthien, daughter of an Elf king and a Maia.” “What, like an Aztec?” “No, Maia as in 'of the Maiar'. I am one myself.” “I didn't know you came from Peru!” “Oh, skip it! Just know that Elrond is a half-elf.” “He's short then?” “No, no, no!” Gandalf growled. “His father was mortal and his mother was an elf. No, wait...actually they both were elves, but his grandfather was mortal. Bah! Needless to say Elrond is still considered an elf, while his brother was mortal.” “That makes no sense genetically,” Bilbo muttered in Darwinian confusion. Dumplin the dwarf interrupted this witty repartee by asking, “Can dwarves wed elves?” “I'm not sure,” Gandalf answered hesitantly. “I don't see why not, as it has been done several times in fan-fiction stories. Why do you ask?” Dumplin clasped his hands together and his face turned beet-red. “Well, there's this elf in Mirkwood named Legolas, and he's just GORGEOUS!” Bilbo frowned and turned to Balin and Dwalin for an explanation. He whispered, “What is the story with Dumplin? He certainly acts odd.” Balin bit his lip, and then whispered back, “Well, actually, Dumplin is not a HE at all, but a SHE-dwarf, rather.” Dwalin, whispering also, replied, “Are you sure?” Balin rolled his eyes. “Well of course I'm sure. Look at her beard!” “Dumplin…is a she?” Bilbo said incredulously. Balin shrugged. “Well, close enough for a lonely night on the road.” “You see, Bilbo,” Dwalin added with downcast eyes, “we dwarves have very few females.”
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Hahahaha! Oh my goodness! I'm so excited/nervous about the upcoming movies. BTW, has anyone heard if the "Hobbit II" has a name yet?
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I think it will most likely be The Hobbit: Part One and The Hobbit: Part Two.
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really? 'cause I watched an interview where Guillermo said he was planning on making the first film the hobbit and the second would be some sort of transition film between the hobbit and LOTR. As he said, "A fifth film to complete the symphony". *shrug* You never know though, these things do have a way of changing. =)
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Elfchick, that was the early plans, but last I head GDT decided against the 2nd film as being the 'bridge' film. He wants the Hobbit split up into 2 parts, because he wants to add in scenes with the White Council and the Necromancer.
After GDT said this, there were rumors of hollywood wanting a 3rd film to bridge The Hobbit and LOTR, but all GDT said was he was signed to do 2 movies, and they would both be about The Hobbit.
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So no more LotR prequel. I think separating The Hobbit into two parts will work better than the original idea.
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Of course PJ has some explaining about a confrontation between
the Necromancer and Gandalf when in the LOTR films he's just a giant eyeball.
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I like this idea of a two-part Hobbit...I think one *could* fit TH into one movie, but it will work better with two, even with new material added. I'm not even entirely opposed to the stuff with the White Council and the Necromancer, though it will be interesting to see how they reconcile the Eye and the Necromancer.
I'm pretty glad that Tennant is out of the running. I like him, and I think he's a good actor from what I've seen...but Bilbo? No way. His body shape's all wrong, and I think he doesn't carry himself quite right to play Bilbo, either. I don't like the idea about Radcliffe. He's gotten much, much better, but he's still got a long way to go, and looks-wise, I don't think he really fits that well as a Hobbit, and certainly not Bilbo--he's at least 10 years too young. I do, however, like James McAvoy, or at least, like him the best out of anyone whose name has been thrown around. He's a really talented, versatile actor. While I think there is something Hobbity about him, he doesn't look a thing like my picture of Bilbo (or, for continuity's sake, like a younger Ian Holm). I do think, though, that he'd be able to play the role well and not look too out-of-place. What I'd really like to see is an unknown in the role, though I don't think that's likely at all, given Hollywood's obsession with money and the draw of big-name actors.
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Sort of news involving Bilbo casting at SciFi Wire:
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I pretty much see Tom Cruise as Bard. But I would like Hugh Jackman better for that role.
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It isn't going to be a very long bow if Cruise plays the bowman ... I saw Top Gun again a few weeks ago and it is hysterical how poor Kelly McGillis has to slouch in half the scenes to disguise the fact she is so much taller than him. the other half he must be standing on a box.
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Well, hey. They won't have to do as much forced perspective
if he's Bilbo.
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How in God's name can anyone imagine him as the tough Bard? The only bard possible for him to play is Cacofonix!
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I have to agree on the negative comments on Daniel Radcliffe as Bilbo. As mentioned above, he has improved--in the last film, he shows a sort of fatalistic, wry humor with respect to his manipulation by Dumbledore. But still he is too much on the serious side to the point where I don't see how he could play the (eventually) free spirited but very shrewd Bilbo.
One has to be a bit worried about the film as a whole to the extent that PJ still exercises a big role. The Hobbit has always suffered in comparison to the LOTR in its relative lack of grander historical substance. We have already seen PJ's penchant for cutesy scenes (e.g., with the dwarf Gimli), so I would be worried that the cutesy aspects of The Hobbit will dominate. Also, LOTR (the movie) suffered from too much focus on the battle scenes, so one has to wonder whether that last battle of the Five Armies will take up half of the movie. All in all, this calls for a much subtler treatment of the historical context. There is the eviction of Sauron from Dol Goldur, but there is not quite enough substance there from Tolkien, so this needs to be just one element in a broader textured tale that includes the travels of Aragorn perhaps, and a more complete treatment of his relationship in the earlier years with Arwen, and the machinations of Saruman with the White Council as both he and Sauron search for the Ring...
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So much for DT quashing rumours he's been cast in The Hobbit at Comic Con. Not very long afterwards he was reported as havign auditioned for a 'major' film and having been really terrified about it, and right afterwards Ian McK made his announcement that fans would be 'very pleased'...Tennant also has little else lined up for him once he wraps Doctor Who and the couple of episodes of the Sarah Jane Adventures that he will be doing.
I'm convinced it's going to be him. However I'm still 100% behind Martin Freeman for the role of Bilbo, he'd be perfect. If Tom Cruise shows his mug in the films then there's no humanity left in the world. And Daniel Radcliffe is more wooden than a B&Q superstore, so no thanks. Also no thanks for James McAvoy who I think is fab, but not right for the part. Another extremely strong story circulating is that Richard Armitage has been auditioned for the role of Bard.
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I'm a big fan of Richard Armitage as the Bard. He's a great actor!
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Armitage isn't a bad choice, especially since I'd imagine
Bard's role will be rather expanded in the movie(s).
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Two more good suggestions I read on a Guardian comments page were Sam Troughton - last seen as Much in the BBC's now sadly axed Robin Hood and Rafe Spall who was last seen as Holman Hunt in Desperate Romantics. Both of them could take on Bilbo quite well.
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I like Martin Freeman and think he is best realistic candidate but I don't think he is perfect if you think of the book Bilbo who is a Tookish freespirit trapped in a very bourgeouis conventional exterior. Freeman does the ordinary bloke caught in odd circumstances well and he was good as Arthur Dent - a more modern arthur Dent than the posh "silly ***" type played by Simon Jones.
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I'm also holding out for Richard Wilson to voice Smaug as his is the voice I hear when I read the Dragon's words! I don't know, however, if he'd consider it too close to his role in Merlin what with the talking dragon in that and everything...wasn't he also in that awful Demons?
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