thangorodrim= fang-mountain-people??? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the guy who be short · 03-06-2003, 06:54 AM

hail, fellow tolkienites

sorry, im insane... anyway

my knowledge of sindarin is extremely limited, i am learning quenya, which i much prefer. but what does the name thangorodrim mean?

i know orodrim was a name given to the ents, meaning mountain people. could thang be an early version of thanc in orthanc? fang?

this would make so little sense that it makes me want to cry. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] please, does anybody know what it means, im going mad here. wait, im already mad. never mind, just find out what it means, please.

Maerbenn · 03-06-2003, 07:39 AM

In the Second Phase of the Later Quenta Silmarillion published in HoMe X: Morgoth's Ring Tolkien gives the meaning 'the Mountains of Oppression'.

the guy who be short · 03-06-2003, 08:29 AM

could you please break up thangorodrim into the mountains of oppression? i know orod is mountain. whats oppresion and of?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-06-2003, 04:05 PM

Didn't Orthanc mean something in two separate languages? Because instead of fang, I'd assume it meant 'tower', as in the towers of oppresion, loosely translated. Also, the it could be 'than' with no g, and the g could come in gor, as in gorgor, which meant terror. As for the 'odrim', maybe it was a little personification, eh, the 'Towers of Terror' personified, but that's asking for a bit too much of a stretch.

Falagar · 03-06-2003, 05:34 PM

If I remember correctly, Orthanc should mean something like "clever device" in old-english, but I can't remember what it meant in Elvish (it was something similar...). I've taken it from Unfinished Tales, but I can't find the exact quote...

[ March 06, 2003: Message edited by: Falagar ]

Annunfuiniel · 03-07-2003, 01:56 AM

Thangorodrim: thang='oppression'
orod='mountain'
rim='multitude, crowd', often
a sign of collective plural
(as in this case:mountains)

Burzdol · 03-07-2003, 01:59 PM

What language does that come from?[elvish, dwarven, etc.]

~Burzdol~

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-07-2003, 02:04 PM

Sindarin. The language of the Sindar and later on the Noldor, though it wasn't widely spoken in Beleriand until the Dagor Aglareb.

03-06-2003, 06:54 AM	#1
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	thangorodrim= fang-mountain-people??? hail, fellow tolkienites sorry, im insane... anyway my knowledge of sindarin is extremely limited, i am learning quenya, which i much prefer. but what does the name thangorodrim mean? i know orodrim was a name given to the ents, meaning mountain people. could thang be an early version of thanc in orthanc? fang? this would make so little sense that it makes me want to cry. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] please, does anybody know what it means, im going mad here. wait, im already mad. never mind, just find out what it means, please.

03-06-2003, 04:05 PM	#4
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Didn't Orthanc mean something in two separate languages? Because instead of fang, I'd assume it meant 'tower', as in the towers of oppresion, loosely translated. Also, the it could be 'than' with no g, and the g could come in gor, as in gorgor, which meant terror. As for the 'odrim', maybe it was a little personification, eh, the 'Towers of Terror' personified, but that's asking for a bit too much of a stretch. __________________ peace

03-06-2003, 05:34 PM	#5
Falagar Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 69	If I remember correctly, Orthanc should mean something like "clever device" in old-english, but I can't remember what it meant in Elvish (it was something similar...). I've taken it from Unfinished Tales, but I can't find the exact quote... [ March 06, 2003: Message edited by: Falagar ] __________________ Auta i lomë! Aurë entuluva! "Take no heed! We speak as is right, and as King Finwë himself did before he was led astray. We are his heirs by right and the elder house. Let them sá-sí, if they can speak no better." -Son of the Therindë

03-07-2003, 01:56 AM	#6
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Thangorodrim: thang='oppression' orod='mountain' rim='multitude, crowd', often a sign of collective plural (as in this case:mountains) __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-07-2003, 01:59 PM	#7
Burzdol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Fair City of Rivendell Posts: 274	What language does that come from?[elvish, dwarven, etc.] ~Burzdol~ __________________ "Kill them all for all I care. You just keep that bow away from me!"

03-06-2003, 07:39 AM	#2
Maerbenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 59	In the Second Phase of the Later Quenta Silmarillion published in HoMe X: Morgoth's Ring Tolkien gives the meaning 'the Mountains of Oppression'.

03-06-2003, 08:29 AM	#3
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	could you please break up thangorodrim into the mountains of oppression? i know orod is mountain. whats oppresion and of?

03-07-2003, 02:04 PM	#8
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Sindarin. The language of the Sindar and later on the Noldor, though it wasn't widely spoken in Beleriand until the Dagor Aglareb. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

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