Odd Battle Out - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Perky Ent · 05-30-2004, 11:50 PM

Well, i really like O_O's, and this seems like a good one. So, welcome to Odd Battle Out! The rules are as any other Odd _ Out! I give several battles, and you have the task of finding which one stands out from the crowd! When you give the correct answer, you get to give the next set! Here's an example:

Battle of Pelenor Fields
Battle of the Peak
Battle of Helms Deep
Battle of Bywater

The correct answer (althought an answer can be right, it has to be the one the person asking the question was thinking of) would be the Battle of Bywater because Gandalf was not present. Any questions? Good! Let's get started! The first set is....

Battle of Helms Deep
Battle of Pelenor Fields
Fall of Gondolin
Battle of Azanulbizar
Dagor Bragollach

Have fun!

Fingolfin II · 05-31-2004, 01:17 AM

Battle of Azanulbizar- the only one in which Men didn't fight?

The Perky Ent · 05-31-2004, 07:05 AM

Nope!

Bombadil · 05-31-2004, 08:56 AM

The battle of helm's deep was the only one to not have a king die in it?

Battle of pelennor fields, Theoden dies.
Fall of Gondolin King Turgon dies.
Battle of Azanulzibar, Nain dies. (Or Azog the Goblin)
and during the Dagor Bragollach, Fingolfin rode to face Morgoth in combat, and died?

The Perky Ent · 05-31-2004, 11:07 AM

nope! try again

Mithalwen · 05-31-2004, 11:22 AM

Is it the Dagor Bragollach because it is the only one when a strong hold of the Enemy is beseiged - in the others it is the Free peoples who are beseiged by the forces of Darkness?

Lindolirian · 05-31-2004, 12:13 PM

Well technically the Dwarves were laying seige to Moria in the Battle of Azanulbizar, so I'm gonna try somthing else. No Elves were at Azanulbizar and no Dwarves were at the Fall of Gondolin.

NightKnight · 05-31-2004, 12:21 PM

Battle of Azanulbizar was the only one where nobody fought on the same side as someone from another race:

Pelennor - Orcs and men/Men, elf and dwarf
Helm's Deep - Men, dwarf and elf
Bragollach - Men and elves/Dragons, balrogs, orcs etc.
Fall of Gondolin - Orcs, dragons, balrogs...

Azanulbizar - Dwarves vs orcs. Plain and simple!

The Perky Ent · 06-01-2004, 03:00 PM

Mithalwen is on the right track...but wrong. And I say that the Battle of Azanulbizar isn't a seige, because it was in front of the gates. Lindolirian, you actually stumbled upon the ansser, although you didn't say it. And NightKnight, you're just wrong.

Bombadil · 06-01-2004, 04:39 PM

The battle of Azanulzibar was the only one where powers of good attacked forces of evil?

The Perky Ent · 06-01-2004, 06:03 PM

Um, no. It's about seiging. Just think about it and it will come to you!

Bombadil · 06-01-2004, 06:13 PM

WAIT A SECOND!

both said by perky ent:

Quote:

Um, no. It's about seiging. Just think about it and it will come to you!

Quote:

And I say that the Battle of Azanulbizar isn't a seige, because it was in front of the gates.

therefore the battle of Azanulzibar is the OBO because it's not a siege?

The Perky Ent · 06-01-2004, 07:02 PM

You're verry close, but think broader. It's got the right ingredients, but not the right name.

NightKnight · 06-02-2004, 09:52 AM

Dagor Bragollach - the only one where someone broke out from a siege and started the battle.

The Perky Ent · 06-02-2004, 04:24 PM

No. Think seige. It's not a seige, but think general. It can't be more obvious

Bombadil · 06-05-2004, 08:40 PM

Dagor Bragollach is the only one where the battle was started due to an army breaking a siege, rather than marching on an enemy stronghold?

-dagor bragollach is started when Morgoth breaks the long siege of the elves.
-helms deep enemy sets off towards Helm's Deep
-Pelennor, enemy marches to Minas Tirith
-Azanulzibar dwarves set off towards Moria to fight
-Gondolin, enemy marches on Gondolin

It's kind of hard to see what I'm getting at, but if it's right you'll know perk!

The Perky Ent · 06-05-2004, 08:56 PM

No, you already have the answer. BTW, it's the Battle of Azanulzibar! You had the answer. Just find another way to phrase it! The answer contains seiging, but it isn't a seige itself. Woops. Did I give it away. Oh well, you've basically had it all the time. Just follow the hints and you'll get it and slap yourself in the head.

Bombadil · 06-07-2004, 09:54 PM

hmmm...BAttle of Aznulzibar only one not to incorporate a siege?

The Perky Ent · 06-08-2004, 10:07 AM

...We have a winner!!!! I yield all thread powers to you!

Mithalwen · 06-08-2004, 11:46 AM

Foiled again1 this time by the haziness of my knowledge of dwarvish history.....

Bombadil · 06-08-2004, 04:58 PM

Battle of five Armies
Scouring of the Shire
Battle of Pelennor fields
Battle of helm's deep

Lots and lots of possibilities in this game! But I think mine is pretty obvious...

NightKnight · 06-08-2004, 05:02 PM

Helm's Deep - No hobbits?

Fingolfin II · 06-08-2004, 08:50 PM

Scouring of the Shire- No Gandalf?

Bombadil · 06-08-2004, 08:53 PM

Fingolfin got it...and i just realized that that was basically the same post that Perky made for an example at the beginning...oops

You're up!

Fingolfin II · 06-08-2004, 09:14 PM

The War of Wrath
The Battle of the Five Armies
The Battle of Pelennor Fields
The Nirnaeth Arnoediad

The Perky Ent · 06-08-2004, 09:17 PM

Pelenor Fields? The only one where there wasn't an elven force? (sorry Legolas! As powerful as you are, you aren't that good)

Fingolfin II · 06-09-2004, 12:59 AM

Nope. You're sort of close though......sort of

.

Bombadil · 06-09-2004, 07:58 AM

5 armies, only one not against a dark lord (i.e. morgoth sauron)

Mithalwen · 06-09-2004, 11:27 AM

The Nirnaith Arnoediad? Because apart from being the only defeat for the forces of light, all the others victory was acheived because of requested reinforcements - Teh Elves of Aman at the War of Wrath following the mission of Earendil, The Five Armies (Elves of Mirkwood, Dwarves of Iron Mountains, Pelenor Fields teh Rohirrim.... although the less expected (unless you are Gandalf ) arrival of Aragorn and co may have bee decisive there ..aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgh

NightKnight · 06-09-2004, 12:11 PM

Nirnaeth - the elves lost?

Fingolfin II · 06-11-2004, 01:57 AM

All wrong so far

.

Mithalwen · 06-11-2004, 01:17 PM

wedll I think it is something to do with dragons ... but I am not sure which is the odd one out ......
War of Wrath - Earendil slays Ancalagon,
Battle of Five Armies ...Smaug's death is the catalyst
Nirnaeth - Galurung causes devastation but survives
Battle of the Pellenor Fields - the Nazgul's steed could be termed a dragon I think - monstrous winged creature without feathers.......

So Pellenor could be the odd one out if you don't class the feel beast as a dragon

oo - no dragon

Five Armies OOO- caused by dragon not featuring a dragon

Nirnaeth OOO Dragon lives to fight another day....

Fingolfin II · 06-11-2004, 07:10 PM

Nope- nothing to do with Dragons.

NightKnight · 06-12-2004, 05:08 AM

Nirnaeth - the only one where reinforcements didn't turn the tide.

Five Armies - Beorn and eagles
Pelennor - Aragorn & co.
Wrath - Eärendil and eagles

Fingolfin II · 06-12-2004, 05:50 AM

Still nope

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Elwe Singollo · 06-12-2004, 08:14 AM

Perhaps it was the War of Wrath. There wasn't a king present there.

Five Armies - Thranduil
Nirnaeth - Fingon
Pelennor Fields - Aragorn (although you could count Theoden as well.)

Fingolfin II · 06-12-2004, 07:06 PM

Nope- think of people and their relationship towards each other.

The Perky Ent · 06-12-2004, 07:17 PM

War of Wrath? The only one where a king wasn't suceeded?

Five Armies - After Thorin's death, Dain Ironfoot suceeded him and became King under the Mountain
The Nirnaeth Arnoediad - Gil-Galad suceeded his father Fingon
Pelennor fields - Eomer became King of Rohan after Theoden's death

Probably not, but it's a shot

Fingolfin II · 06-12-2004, 08:49 PM

Still nope.

Elwe Singollo · 06-13-2004, 02:32 PM

Perhaps it was:

Battle of the Pelennor

Because all the others hadone or more armies of other races against the dark forces.

05-30-2004, 11:50 PM	#1
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Odd Battle Out Well, i really like O_O's, and this seems like a good one. So, welcome to Odd Battle Out! The rules are as any other Odd _ Out! I give several battles, and you have the task of finding which one stands out from the crowd! When you give the correct answer, you get to give the next set! Here's an example: Battle of Pelenor Fields Battle of the Peak Battle of Helms Deep Battle of Bywater The correct answer (althought an answer can be right, it has to be the one the person asking the question was thinking of) would be the Battle of Bywater because Gandalf was not present. Any questions? Good! Let's get started! The first set is.... Battle of Helms Deep Battle of Pelenor Fields Fall of Gondolin Battle of Azanulbizar Dagor Bragollach Have fun! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

05-31-2004, 01:17 AM	#2
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Battle of Azanulbizar- the only one in which Men didn't fight? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

05-31-2004, 07:05 AM	#3
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Nope! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

05-31-2004, 08:56 AM	#4
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	long shot but... The battle of helm's deep was the only one to not have a king die in it? Battle of pelennor fields, Theoden dies. Fall of Gondolin King Turgon dies. Battle of Azanulzibar, Nain dies. (Or Azog the Goblin) and during the Dagor Bragollach, Fingolfin rode to face Morgoth in combat, and died? __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

05-31-2004, 11:07 AM	#5
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	nope! try again __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

05-31-2004, 11:22 AM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Is it the Dagor Bragollach because it is the only one when a strong hold of the Enemy is beseiged - in the others it is the Free peoples who are beseiged by the forces of Darkness?

05-31-2004, 12:13 PM	#7
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Well technically the Dwarves were laying seige to Moria in the Battle of Azanulbizar, so I'm gonna try somthing else. No Elves were at Azanulbizar and no Dwarves were at the Fall of Gondolin. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-31-2004, 12:21 PM	#8
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Battle of Azanulbizar was the only one where nobody fought on the same side as someone from another race: Pelennor - Orcs and men/Men, elf and dwarf Helm's Deep - Men, dwarf and elf Bragollach - Men and elves/Dragons, balrogs, orcs etc. Fall of Gondolin - Orcs, dragons, balrogs... Azanulbizar - Dwarves vs orcs. Plain and simple! __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-01-2004, 03:00 PM	#9
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Mithalwen is on the right track...but wrong. And I say that the Battle of Azanulbizar isn't a seige, because it was in front of the gates. Lindolirian, you actually stumbled upon the ansser, although you didn't say it. And NightKnight, you're just wrong. __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-01-2004, 04:39 PM	#10
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	The battle of Azanulzibar was the only one where powers of good attacked forces of evil? __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

06-01-2004, 06:03 PM	#11
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Um, no. It's about seiging. Just think about it and it will come to you! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-01-2004, 07:02 PM	#13
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	You're verry close, but think broader. It's got the right ingredients, but not the right name. __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-02-2004, 09:52 AM	#14
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Dagor Bragollach - the only one where someone broke out from a siege and started the battle. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-02-2004, 04:24 PM	#15
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	No. Think seige. It's not a seige, but think general. It can't be more obvious __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-05-2004, 08:40 PM	#16
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	Dagor Bragollach is the only one where the battle was started due to an army breaking a siege, rather than marching on an enemy stronghold? -dagor bragollach is started when Morgoth breaks the long siege of the elves. -helms deep enemy sets off towards Helm's Deep -Pelennor, enemy marches to Minas Tirith -Azanulzibar dwarves set off towards Moria to fight -Gondolin, enemy marches on Gondolin It's kind of hard to see what I'm getting at, but if it's right you'll know perk! __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

06-05-2004, 08:56 PM	#17
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	No, you already have the answer. BTW, it's the Battle of Azanulzibar! You had the answer. Just find another way to phrase it! The answer contains seiging, but it isn't a seige itself. Woops. Did I give it away. Oh well, you've basically had it all the time. Just follow the hints and you'll get it and slap yourself in the head. __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-07-2004, 09:54 PM	#18
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	hmmm...BAttle of Aznulzibar only one not to incorporate a siege? __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

06-08-2004, 10:07 AM	#19
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	...We have a winner!!!! I yield all thread powers to you! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-08-2004, 11:46 AM	#20
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Foiled again1 this time by the haziness of my knowledge of dwarvish history.....

06-08-2004, 04:58 PM	#21
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	ahh the dwarves... Battle of five Armies Scouring of the Shire Battle of Pelennor fields Battle of helm's deep Lots and lots of possibilities in this game! But I think mine is pretty obvious... __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

06-08-2004, 05:02 PM	#22
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Helm's Deep - No hobbits? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-08-2004, 08:50 PM	#23
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Scouring of the Shire- No Gandalf? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-08-2004, 08:53 PM	#24
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	Fingolfin got it...and i just realized that that was basically the same post that Perky made for an example at the beginning...oops You're up! __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

06-08-2004, 09:14 PM	#25
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Here's a tricksy one... The War of Wrath The Battle of the Five Armies The Battle of Pelennor Fields The Nirnaeth Arnoediad __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-08-2004, 09:17 PM	#26
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Pelenor Fields? The only one where there wasn't an elven force? (sorry Legolas! As powerful as you are, you aren't that good) __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-09-2004, 12:59 AM	#27
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Nope. You're sort of close though......sort of . __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-09-2004, 07:58 AM	#28
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	5 armies, only one not against a dark lord (i.e. morgoth sauron) __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

06-09-2004, 11:27 AM	#29
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	The Nirnaith Arnoediad? Because apart from being the only defeat for the forces of light, all the others victory was acheived because of requested reinforcements - Teh Elves of Aman at the War of Wrath following the mission of Earendil, The Five Armies (Elves of Mirkwood, Dwarves of Iron Mountains, Pelenor Fields teh Rohirrim.... although the less expected (unless you are Gandalf ) arrival of Aragorn and co may have bee decisive there ..aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgh

06-09-2004, 12:11 PM	#30
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Nirnaeth - the elves lost? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-11-2004, 01:57 AM	#31
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	All wrong so far . __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-11-2004, 01:17 PM	#32
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	wedll I think it is something to do with dragons ... but I am not sure which is the odd one out ...... War of Wrath - Earendil slays Ancalagon, Battle of Five Armies ...Smaug's death is the catalyst Nirnaeth - Galurung causes devastation but survives Battle of the Pellenor Fields - the Nazgul's steed could be termed a dragon I think - monstrous winged creature without feathers....... So Pellenor could be the odd one out if you don't class the feel beast as a dragonoo - no dragon Five Armies OOO- caused by dragon not featuring a dragon Nirnaeth OOO Dragon lives to fight another day....

06-11-2004, 07:10 PM	#33
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Nope- nothing to do with Dragons. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-12-2004, 05:08 AM	#34
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Nirnaeth - the only one where reinforcements didn't turn the tide. Five Armies - Beorn and eagles Pelennor - Aragorn & co. Wrath - Eärendil and eagles __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

06-12-2004, 05:50 AM	#35
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Still nope . __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-12-2004, 08:14 AM	#36
Elwe Singollo Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 88	Perhaps it was the War of Wrath. There wasn't a king present there. Five Armies - Thranduil Nirnaeth - Fingon Pelennor Fields - Aragorn (although you could count Theoden as well.) __________________ "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains." - The Doom of Mandos