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Huinesoron · 06-21-2019, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Rivers?

What rivers, and what's your source?

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-21-2019, 03:32 PM

Just the logic of them having to cross several to get to the Shire.

Anduin (Radagast said they had crossed it. At least, in the BBC version I think he did).

Baranduin?

Geography is not my strong point, whichever world I'm in.

Urwen · 06-21-2019, 03:34 PM

You gave up on the Password thread, Pervinca?

Pervinca Took · 06-21-2019, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

You gave up on the Password thread, Pervinca?

I really have tried, but can't get any further with the clues.

Urwen · 06-21-2019, 04:55 PM

I'll post some hints tomorrow-ish then.

Huinesoron · 06-22-2019, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Just the logic of them having to cross several to get to the Shire.

Anduin (Radagast said they had crossed it. At least, in the BBC version I think he did).

Baranduin?

Geography is not my strong point, whichever world I'm in.

Well, it's the right answer.

The specific reference is this:

I saw him ride over seven streams
Over waters wide and grey...

From the lament for Boromir. The internet thinks it refers to seven rivers between Minas Tirith and Rivendell, but I think it probably refers to seven actual streams close to Tharbad (after which point he lost his horse anyway). The point is, we know the Nazgul also forced the crossing at Tharbad, so they must have crossed the same seven streams.

Nine over seven. And thread over to Pervinca.

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-23-2019, 05:18 AM

I thought the reference was probably that song, but I wondered if it was the Lament for Gandalf. I didn't check it - sorry. I thought you wanted me to find a map and count the rivers, and I didn't have time.

Ok then.

I lie low.
Concealed.
But piquant.

Urwen · 06-23-2019, 05:27 AM

Nan Elmoth?

Pervinca Took · 06-23-2019, 05:44 AM

No.

Urwen · 06-23-2019, 06:06 AM

Moria?

Pervinca Took · 06-23-2019, 11:37 AM

No.

Urwen · 06-23-2019, 11:38 AM

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 05:55 AM

Think about 'piquant.'

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 11:55 AM

The mushrooms?

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 12:13 PM

Not mushrooms, but getting warmer.

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 01:04 PM

Onions? Peppers?

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 02:47 PM

Where are peppers mentioned in the books!?

Lying low doesn't mean under the earth or in a valley or anything like that.

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 02:52 PM

Now I am even more confused.

The Fellowship?

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 02:54 PM

No. Not a person.

But it's *connected* to one particular character.

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 02:56 PM

Zirak-Zigil? It's piquant, as in peaky.

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 02:58 PM

No ... piquant refers to taste.

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 03:01 PM

Lembas? Some other sort of food? Stewed rabbits?

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 03:06 PM

Not one of those.

Lies low ... lies low ....

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 03:07 PM

Some kind of low-growing shrub?

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 04:06 PM

Not a shrub.

It's mentioned in 'Of Herbs And Stewed Rabbit,' and only there, I believe.

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 04:35 PM

Terebinth?

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 04:39 PM

Not something that grows.

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 04:44 PM

I see......You're full of suprises.

"....and hidden at the bottom of the pack in a flat wooden box a dwindling treasure, some salt....."

and that's my answer.

Pervinca Took · 06-24-2019, 04:46 PM

YES!

Sam's box of salt, at the bottom of his pack.

I said it was connected to a character!

Over to you.

Urwen · 06-24-2019, 05:00 PM

Then let me post something that was inspired by a poem one of my friends wrote.

Woe upon them
Children who hold the helm
Woe, woe, before the dark foe
Whose will follows them high and low

Woe upon them, woe upon him
Who dared to oppose him and his whim
Woe upon them, forlorn in their plight
They couldn't win that fight

Pervinca Took · 06-25-2019, 09:37 AM

The children of Hurin, at the whim of Morgoth?

Urwen · 06-25-2019, 11:26 AM

Yeah......

Pervinca Took · 06-25-2019, 01:11 PM

Perfectly round.
But never a scratch or sign of wear?
Hmmmm ....

Urwen · 06-25-2019, 01:43 PM

Palantir(i)?

Pervinca Took · 06-25-2019, 02:16 PM

No.

Urwen · 06-25-2019, 02:18 PM

The One Ring?

Pervinca Took · 06-25-2019, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

The One Ring?

No. Frodo specifically said it never showed either of those things.

Urwen · 06-25-2019, 02:30 PM

The Mirror of Galadriel?

Urwen · 06-25-2019, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

No. Frodo specifically said it never showed either of those things.

But he did say exactly that about the One Ring, and I can prove it: https://books.google.rs/books?id=yl4...20wear&f=false

Pervinca Took · 06-25-2019, 03:06 PM

I know. I was referring to those specific words, but adding a question mark and a 'Hmmmmm' to show that they DON'T apply to THIS round thing.

Not Galadriel's Mirror. (Is it round? I didn't know).

06-21-2019, 03:32 PM	#2922
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Just the logic of them having to cross several to get to the Shire. Anduin (Radagast said they had crossed it. At least, in the BBC version I think he did). Baranduin? Geography is not my strong point, whichever world I'm in. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-22-2019 at 01:37 AM.

06-21-2019, 03:34 PM	#2923
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	You gave up on the Password thread, Pervinca? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-21-2019, 04:55 PM	#2925
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	I'll post some hints tomorrow-ish then. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-23-2019, 05:18 AM	#2927
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I thought the reference was probably that song, but I wondered if it was the Lament for Gandalf. I didn't check it - sorry. I thought you wanted me to find a map and count the rivers, and I didn't have time. Ok then. I lie low. Concealed. But piquant. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-23-2019, 05:27 AM	#2928
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Nan Elmoth? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-23-2019, 05:44 AM	#2929
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-23-2019, 06:06 AM	#2930
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Moria? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-23-2019, 11:37 AM	#2931
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-23-2019, 11:38 AM	#2932
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	__________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 05:55 AM	#2933
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Think about 'piquant.' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 11:55 AM	#2934
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	The mushrooms? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 12:13 PM	#2935
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not mushrooms, but getting warmer. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 01:04 PM	#2936
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Onions? Peppers? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 02:47 PM	#2937
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Where are peppers mentioned in the books!? Lying low doesn't mean under the earth or in a valley or anything like that. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 02:52 PM	#2938
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Now I am even more confused. The Fellowship? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 02:54 PM	#2939
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No. Not a person. But it's connected to one particular character. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 02:56 PM	#2940
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Zirak-Zigil? It's piquant, as in peaky. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 02:58 PM	#2941
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No ... piquant refers to taste. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 03:01 PM	#2942
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Lembas? Some other sort of food? Stewed rabbits? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 03:06 PM	#2943
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not one of those. Lies low ... lies low .... __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 03:07 PM	#2944
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Some kind of low-growing shrub? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 04:06 PM	#2945
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not a shrub. It's mentioned in 'Of Herbs And Stewed Rabbit,' and only there, I believe. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 04:35 PM	#2946
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Terebinth? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 04:39 PM	#2947
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not something that grows. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 04:44 PM	#2948
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	I see......You're full of suprises. "....and hidden at the bottom of the pack in a flat wooden box a dwindling treasure, some salt....." and that's my answer. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-24-2019, 04:46 PM	#2949
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	YES! Sam's box of salt, at the bottom of his pack. I said it was connected to a character! Over to you. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-24-2019, 05:00 PM	#2950
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Then let me post something that was inspired by a poem one of my friends wrote. Woe upon them Children who hold the helm Woe, woe, before the dark foe Whose will follows them high and low Woe upon them, woe upon him Who dared to oppose him and his whim Woe upon them, forlorn in their plight They couldn't win that fight __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-25-2019, 09:37 AM	#2951
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	The children of Hurin, at the whim of Morgoth? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-25-2019, 11:26 AM	#2952
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Yeah...... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-25-2019, 01:11 PM	#2953
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Perfectly round. But never a scratch or sign of wear? Hmmmm .... __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-25-2019, 01:43 PM	#2954
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Palantir(i)? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-25-2019, 02:16 PM	#2955
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-25-2019, 02:18 PM	#2956
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	The One Ring? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-25-2019, 02:30 PM	#2958
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	The Mirror of Galadriel? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-25-2019, 03:06 PM	#2960
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I know. I was referring to those specific words, but adding a question mark and a 'Hmmmmm' to show that they DON'T apply to THIS round thing. Not Galadriel's Mirror. (Is it round? I didn't know). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."