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01-05-2011, 10:16 PM | #201 |
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#11 - nothing of consequence. #45 - wow. This looks like a real solid contribution at first glance, but it's not. All he says is that he can't read Aganzir, without giving any actual in-game points, making a comment about my drawer-mantelpiece stuff, joking about Kath, defending Pitch, and talk about how he skims the thread. #56/#57 - joking around with Inzil and some role-talk. #95 - four(!) paragraphs defending the role-and-rule talk against Wilwa. Defends Pitch pretty staunchly (note is awareness of and worry about a possible bandwaggon). #103 - says he's going to vote for one of those he forgot were playing: Lommy, Manwe, Nessa, Greenie, Shasta among them. Some chatter with Lommy, too. #112 - buries the hatchet with Wilwa. #124 - chatters around a little. Lists Eomer and Greenie as possible votes, because they didn't catch his eye enough. Then votes Inzil for a fairly stupid reason. Inzil had no votes at this point and, I think, no major suspicions thrown his way. All Boro actually does is defend Pitch. This means he's either a wolf and Pitch his companion, or it's the other thing. Neither explains his total lack of trying to suspect anybody for a remotely serious reason. Since I suspect Pitch quite a bit, I can't help but suspect Boro a lot, too. |
01-06-2011, 12:20 AM | #202 | |
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I'm not sure why everyone gets surprised when Kath winds up killed. She's a smart and astute player. Always gives a thorough read through of the posts and then gives her opinions.
Ozban, no clue, played with him once before and it looks like a no-trace, but I'm always surprised at packs who go for no-trace over the seer. Maybe this pack feels like they can avoid the seer for a while by hiding in the masses? Quote:
Some of my banter and joking may look useless to you, but to me, I think I've already gotten a good idea on several players. Pitch has a nickname that seems stuck with him forever, Mr. Agreeable, and this usually gets him suspected early and often. With the unexplained uneasy feelings and Pitch being agreeable, I saw the same thing happening yesterday. Maybe he is a wolf, but I'm not his companion. Lommy yelled at me for questioning the sanity of her mind. It looked like a big-little sisterly thing to do. We were joking (at least I was, she would probably say it was a jerk thing for me to say ), but gave me a good feeling about Lommy. Agan was up to something, but she'd be up to something no matter the role. Obvious to point out, yes, but I wanted to give more time to figure her out, now that I've seen how the mind of the Alpha Female Scar works. I'm used to taking notice of Greenie, Eomer, and Inzil and I really wasn't yesterday. Greenie because she's completely blind-sided me as a wolf before, when I said something on how she looks so sweet and innocent, and Nog warned me of her sharp-claws and fangs side. Eomer, much like morm, tends to be aggressive and pretty confident of his decisions. Inzil, I've had a good read on him in the past, and he's usually one of the more "straight to business" people, but couldn't remember any of his posts other than not having a pillow. You should know, Mac, once the information from the lynches and kills is known, I become my most annoying and biggest thorn in people's sides. I find Day 1's difficult to get through, just choose not to gripe about them that much.
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01-06-2011, 12:29 AM | #203 |
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I would just like to point something out. You say that "she said she crossed". I'm sure you're not insinuating that I lied about that, but I thought I might as well point out that lying about a cross post is, in my mind (and, I think, in most everyone's) very bad form. I assure you, if I say I've cross posted, I cross posted. And I don't even mean that thing where you reply and see the post before you hit submit but don't really read it, either. Anyway, I know you didn't mean anything by it, but I didn't want anyone else to read that and assume that you thought I'd lied about it.
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01-06-2011, 04:09 AM | #205 | |
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I feel better about Mac after his long analysis, because we have clearly been thinking along the same lines. Not sure what to do about your situation, Kitanna. I'd honestly rather not put you up for lynching because well, you are innocent. Just target whoever you think is guilty and we will have two shots at finding a wolf instead of one. We can definitely use those odds anyway. |
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Okay, back... commenting on a bit of stuff, some thoughts about people, then on the Kit issue in the end...
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As for what Mac also said, there is the thing that I can imagine some people (Agan, Lommy...) not wanting to kill e.g. Ozban because they didn't get much chance to play with him before, however, one has to consider that they might be just one Wolf in the big pack and perhaps their votes would be overriden. The question is though, overriden by WHAT - since it really seems now that the only reason was no-trace kill, or possibly framing someone (or possibly killing our day by letting us wonder what the heck is this all about). And, there is one thing I really don't like: I am starting to suspect Inzil. A bit, but anyway. Which is horrible, thinking that in such a case it would be, what, the fifth time in a row he was a Wolf? But maybe I haven't seen him "normal" for such a long time that... well, never mind. I am not going to continue on that just now, I am merely wary about him. Mac's posting looks reasonable, unless it is a part of some huge conspiracy of intertwined posts which are supposed to make certain people look good (Agan? Zil? Nessa?) and make others suspected. On the superficial level, I have started to be somewhat wary also of Elronhubbard, but from the general tone of her posting it makes me think she is actually innocent. More like gut-feeling from the way she presents herself. Now there is the time to remark that actually Mac has a point in how Boro did indeed not say much, and in fact, neither he did toDay. Maybe he wished to post something after being "rebuked", but in fact he just very shortly repeated a few things which are really of not so much consequence. Most curious. And like I said, I don't suspect Lottie that much anymore, and her latter posting confirms this even more. Quote:
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I have a few things to that - I would prefer, if it is possible (or I don't know what people think), to keep you alive and around at least for a while yet. Depends how much you can, resp. how much you cannot play, Kit. It is somehow dumb, but if it's possible, I would most prefer the idea of keeping you around as a "known innocent", and kill you only at some point when you really cannot go on. That is, if you can pop in at least once in two Days and vote or something in order not to be modfired, I would like to have you here, and perhaps at least chime in with an idea once in a while. You see, the thing is, there are already two kills by Night, I don't really fancy two deaths by Day also. Of course, if we get a Wolf, no problem, but this method of lynching you is no better than a normal lynch, in fact, it's worse (in relation to the amount of people who die, even if one of them is a Wolf). And that said, if I were to suggest somebody to you, I also don't have much of a clear idea - as more of us don't, I believe - whatever was suggested before is possible, Valier seems a bit creepy, but otherwise I would have to have the time to go through things properly to say anything specific, there are people I am wary of otherwise, like Boro, Rikae, somewhat Zil... but I have not yet made it my focus to go through all their posts.
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Boro doesn't convince me yet.
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I need a list to get a proper grip on my thoughts. Feel more or less good about. Shasta Kitanna (of course) Wilwa Inzil Rikae BG Legate Lommy These fellows are off the hook for now and will be until something happens that makes me change my mind. No idea at all. elronds_daughter Greenie Mänwe ed and Mänwe didn't say much, and Greenie really has been so far under my radar that I don't know what to think. Not good. Not really suspicious, but not really innocent either. Loslote Nessa Skip Aganzir Cailín Wary of these. A bit suspicious. Eomer Valier Very wary. Good deal of suspicion. Pitch Boro Are most likely to receive my vote toDay, unless something changes my mind (which is still very possible, of course). |
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01-06-2011, 06:08 AM | #208 |
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This is the last post I can make. I'm going to stick with who I've already chosen. If enough of you lynch me and hope I'm right, well I hope I'm right too. Or maybe you'll let me stay to keep one more innocent body around until Nog arranges my suicide because of inactivity. Either way best of luck.
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01-06-2011, 06:18 AM | #209 |
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I'm not so sure about the cobbler-wolf hinting theory. It was way to conspicuous to be something planned, not to mention the idea had already been brought up.
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Here I think Nessa looks objectively the worst but I also share Mac's concern about a lupine stitch-up, what with the killing of Oz, who I was also surprised to see killed. A set-up for an easy lynch might might be the explanation. Or that Nessa is a frightened wolf. Or neither. Most people left the voting until late. If there was a ww in that crowd, how would his/her fellows act? Quote:
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Today, and spontaneously, I feel good about Pitch, Rikae and Mac. They all make sense and seem helpful. Though I must question the premiss that making sense is a good sign of innocence. Getting slightly worried about Legate. Not convinced of Nessa's good intentions either. She was a bit twitchy yesterDay. Also worried about wolves hiding in the crowd. This is such a large village one tends to forget completely about those who rarely comment (and lacks name recognition). Wouldn't be surprised to find at least two among the submarines. But it's always hard to vote for a someone you have no info on.
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01-06-2011, 06:29 AM | #211 |
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I'm not so sure if I'll be back close to DL, so I'm gonna go ahead and cast my vote. I'm still really worried about Rikae, and it wouldn't sit right with me to vote some of the other speculated people when it's a whole mess in there.
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01-06-2011, 06:36 AM | #212 | |
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However, I don't like the idea of just lynching Kit and let her do her thing. Even though I think this statistically favours the village over the wolves (the latter lose their influence over the voting) it seems like a Day wasted and today's game ruined. This is a question to Nogrod. If Kit is "modfired" will she simply disappear from the game of can she still perform her function as a hunter? Maybe just removing her is the best solution in either case?
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01-06-2011, 07:29 AM | #213 |
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This was always going to be the outcome; our numbers large enough for the evil amongst us to strike with impunity- such is the wickedness of Melkor- during these early days of torment. For this is the torment he seeks in his discord, to have in His creation, creation marred with self preservation.
And so two unspoken spirits are extinguished and one of ours who was among the most talkative is lynched. Posts of no substance and posts of substance are marked as being both innocent and evil; the same can be said of those who speak profusely and those who do not, heh none of us can win. Shall we now see two well spoken spirits killed during Melkor’s forced sleep and one unspoken spirit lynched? Much is said of ones innocence that lies low, so I would have those who have spoken little (and who had offered no reason for their absence) step forward in this darkness, identify themselves because I can barely see and explain themselves. Those who have appeared to me as quite quiet and who have three or less posts in our first day of incarceration (and who survived the night’s carnage) are as I see it, the following. [accountable, just]Cailín; #10(1i) – informs us of a flight, will be interesting to see how vocal she is today after posts #186(2i) and #205(2ii) appear to be reactionary to the nights events. [unaccountable!]Blind Guardian; #47(1i) offers no reason for his absence and says due to this absence he will not vote. While Day 2, #181(2i) #187(2ii) expresses delight at survival and math reasoning for the ‘easy lynch’. [unaccountable]A Little Green; #73(1i) a late Day 1 post (and nothing since) and casts a few nonchalant suspicions on Agan and Rikae. [unaccountable]elronds_daughter; #71(1i) a late post to say driving a result of inactivity and appears content to just follow the flow of previous chatter. #152(1ii) jumps in with a blind (bandwagon) vote seemingly just conforming. #200(2i), ah back again to say a few odd bits that again to me appear to conform. Will look out for the more substantial post. Perhaps all a little too obvious. I’ll hold back comments on other players for the time being.
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Comments on dead or to-be-dead people: Sally - well, since people have been questioning it, I can wholeheartedly admit I didn't have any good reason to vote her. Slight detection of fishiness and the cobbler stuff, but that's it. Mostly, I didn't want to see Zil or Nessa go because I thought Zil innocent and didn't like the Nessa wagon. On hindsight, that's rather sad because I'm currently suspecting both Zil and Nessa. Kath and Ozzy - no idea why they died. Feel like checking their posts but it's already been done by several people so not sure I'd find anything now. Kind of sad to see them go because I like them both a lot and I would have liked to play with them more. Kitanna - too bad you have to go. I believe your claim and I'll give you my opinion for what it's worth, but we must yet decide whether to lynch you or let you be modfired. I would kind of support the lynch but I'm not sure if we have time to decide on the kill properly. Anyway, also worried about what one more innocent (probably) dying toDay does to our numbers. Quote:
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Aiee why did Kit not tell us who she's hunting? Not sure I trust her judgement (no offense). Mänwë is around, yay! His post totally confuses me, though. Away for now, will be back later! edit: Rikae edit2: the edit above means "xed with Rikae"
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01-06-2011, 08:15 AM | #216 |
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Gah. My computer epic-failed yesterDay which is why I didn't vote - the stupid machine quite simply refused to work. I have a lot to catch up on but I'll try my best!
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01-06-2011, 08:19 AM | #217 |
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Regarding Kit, I'd prefer it if we had more time to choose her kill, if we have to do so. Even after two days, when she is scheduled to be modfired, we'll have more information to go on. Trouble is, it would require her to be around to change her kill at that time according to the village, unless she and Nog are willing to have her kill determined by a vote of the village in two days. It would also require Kit to vote toDay to buy time.
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Eomer of the Rohirrim - Nothing suspicious so far. elronds_daughter - What I've seen seemed innocentish.Macalaure - He makes sense, but I disagree with him on several counts. Too quick to clear names based on the kills, but that is like him, so not suspicious. Shastanis Althreduin - Where is he? Loslote - I'm really not sure what to make of her. Suspicious, but I know I always suspect her. Kitanna - Keep around. wilwarin538 - I haven't quite decided whether her freak out over the cobbler hinting makes her look innocent or not. Nessa Telrunya - Saying I know something as a way of casting suspicion on me didn't make sense. She is being defended quite a bit by Cailin, and with arguments that themselves don't make much sense. Would Cailin defend a packmate openly, though? I don't think she would. Will look elsewhere for now for that reason. Pitchwife - Creepy, and not because he's agreeable. I'll have to take a closer look at his posts to put my finger on what bothers me. Inziladun - See Lottie.His first post toDay clearly shows he's paranoid, but paranoia isn't limited to wolves. Boromir88 - Mac has a good point - he isn't himself. He isn't his wolf self either, though. A Little Green - No read. Blind Guardian -Seems ok. Skip Spence - Didn't like his vote one bit. Mänwe - A quiet one talking about quiet ones? Valier - No read. Legate of Amon Lanc - Sensible and creepy. Thinlómien - Tending innocent. Aganzir - Tending cobbler. Caílin - See Nessa. |
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I wanted to look into Loslote and Nessa, because I seem to be swayed by the suspicion against them. I also decided - based on a gut feeling - to analyse Wilwarin and elronds_daughter even though I had taken little note of them before.
So far I only had time for Wilwarin and Nessa. Don't expect these analyses to be like a glass of clear, cool water, though, because my thoughts are seldom quite as organised as some of the die-hards here. Wilwarin #77 seems offended by the discussion about roles and behaviour. Tone is somewhat patronizing, which I have rarely seen from Wilwa before. Antagonises more people by “refusing to jump on the Pitch wagon”. She lists some initial thoughts on people, mostly based on past performance and behavior. Who are Cupcake and Pop? #83 argues with Rikae, which prompts a vote from Rikae’s end. #88 agrees with Legate that Loslote’s post looks somewhat suspicious. Confusion about a possible Cobbler hint from Aganzir detected by Legate. #89 Clarifies her fear of a Pitch wagon #93 Defends herself against Pitch’s accusations. Says she does not suspect Legate or Loslote yet, though concedes there are some legitimate reasons to suspect Lottie. #106 Defends herself again, this time against Boro, who was a staunch defender of the roles and rules discussion. Her tone is milder now. #116 Ah, Cupcake refers to Sally. Wilwarin does not like her post, mainly because of the whole Cobbler thing (she does not mention this explicitly in an attempt to conceal from the Cobbler / Wolves what she obviously thinks is a good idea). She defends Skip and questions Sally’s assessment of Kitanna. #123 suspects Sally (and has various reasonable arguments for Day 1) and thinks she will vote for her today. #129 votes for Sally. #134 again defends herself against Kath, who misrepresented Wilwa’s initial post in her analysis. Defends herself against accusations of defensiveness (always counterproductive) #160 does not like Aganzir drawing attention to Sally’s point about the Cobbler (which was also Wilwa’s main reason for voting Sally) and suspects Aganzir might not have the village’s best interest at heart. Today #171 defends her decision to vote for Sally again referring to the Cobbler incident. Wilwarin has been quite consistent so far. She does seem fairly defensive – not just of herself but of other people as well – and such behavior always leads to discomfort. However, she was one of the few people yesterday who bothered to build a case – however wrong it may have been – against someone and stated her reasons for her vote as clearly and lucidly as she thought advisable. At the moment I doubt she is evil. Nessa #28 starts with some maths. I won’t argue with that. #55 Confused about Rikae’s suspicion of Pitchwife. Suggests Rikae “seems to know something we don’t” #64 explains her lack of participation #147 votes Rikae. Claims her post was misinterpreted and she had meant to accuse Rikae, not out her as a possible Seer. Says Rikae has been jumpy. Unsure about the Legate-is-the-Cobbler debate and the suspicion against Sally. Today #211 votes Rikae again and does not think she will be back. There is really so very little to go on here. Post #55 looks weird, but could just be carelessly phrased. She hardly comments on any of the other players. I have never played with Nessa before, so I cannot comment on her style (to me it looks like she may be relatively new to the game). She has definitely done little to make her look innocent. |
01-06-2011, 09:08 AM | #222 |
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I would prefer to keep Kit as a known innocent and a thorn in the side of the wolves, but her words seem to indicate she won't be able to do anything more in the game, be it voting, or just observing the thread in order to decide who she should hunt. Her most recent post said it was "the last post she can make", not specifying that only went for toDay, or the rest of the game. She seems convinced she's going to be modfired, and wants to instead go out using her gift.
So, if she's merely modfired, we don't risk innocent blood being spilled with her, but her gift will be wasted. There are five baddies, including the Cobbler. That's a decent chance of her getting one of them. As far as wolves go, I'm still concerned about Val, Nessa, and maybe Pitch. I think Mac raised some decent points about him.
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01-06-2011, 09:14 AM | #223 |
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Do we know that Kit can't use her gift if modfired?
Even so, we can wait until toMorrow to lynch her... if she's gone now, though, we have no say in who she's hunting, nor do we know it. We need clarification from the NogMod, but what if he can't? What if she isn't the hunter at all? I don't like this. |
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Hey Boro I had a dream Legate mailed someone I study with and told her I had a huge crush on her (I don't). She proceeded to text me to meet her at her favourite bar tonight. Any help?
Now, I'm going to divide people in groups based on what they said of me yesterday. Found me evil Mac (I was down as cobbler till he found someone better) Cailín (voted for me randomly) Found me good Shasta (I'm logical and down to earth) Lottie (I looked almost too good) Legate ("I am not suspecting Agan - at least not because of what she said, as I believe what she said makes sense. And if she were a Wolf/Cobbler signaling to the Cobbler/Wolves, she would have actually given a more direct hint, I believe. But that is what she does not seem to do, in my opinion.") ed (Agan doesn't look too bad to me, maybe a little shifty, but I'll have to go back and read through things again) Didn't reach a conclusion Pitch ("Agan is daring enough to sort of hide in the open, and I remember an Agan-cobbler who talked about the cobbler all the time; but since our primary aim is not to lynch the cobbler but the wolves, I'm disinclined to vote her for the time being. It's when she starts other people of being the cobbler that I'll get worried about her.") wilwa (thinks I'm too obvious to be the cobbler which might be the plan) Rikae (I could be anything) Lommy (refused to talk about me) Now, I'm almost certain Mac isn't a wolf. I'm aware I looked cobblerish yesterday. I don't think a wolf would be the first to point it out and suspect me because of it: even though I tend to talk about the cobbler a lot, the wolves simply couldn't be certain it wasn't me. I'm more concerned about Legate. He seemed to pooh-pooh the confusion around me with "if she was evil she would've dropped more obvious hints!" Legate should realise no real hinting could take place yesterday anyway, so I don't get why he thinks I would've been more direct as a baddie. Basically he says I'm innocent because I didn't do something I wouldn't even have been able to do. Pitch is interesting as well. He basically says "Agan could be the cobbler but let's not lynch her at least until she starts suspecting others of being the cobbler!" It could possibly be a wolf hinting at a suspected cobbler: "Hey there I see you, now calm down!" Wilwa reproached me for underlining sally's cobbler thing. Before that she said I looked too obvious to be the cobbler which might be my plan. I find it interesting she never actually seemed to suspect me, though. If you're innocent and someone basically screams cobbler to you, why not act on it? I find ed's 71 slightly fishy. It's like "I haven't seen anything particularly bad about Agan & Lottie, I should probably go back and check (if I can justify possible future suspicion against them)!" Quote:
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Another way to exit the game without getting lynched or killed during the Night is to tell the mod one is withdrawing from the game. In that situation the player is removed in the next suitable narration. Kit told me she would have to withdraw from the game, but I'll try to get a confirmation from her on the issue of which exact way she'd want to go. ADD: She is in the game toDay anyway.
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Here and reading, for the next hour or so. I'll see how much analysis I can get done in that time.
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01-06-2011, 10:09 AM | #228 | |
Mellifluous Maia
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You're giving a stabbing-in-all-directions-hoping-something-hits-home impression which could still be called cobblerish toDay. On one hand, I approve of that strategy; testing out reactions, looking for wolfish defences. Still, there are different ways to do it, I think. I feel as though you're waiting more for consensus than for evil to show itself, which makes me uneasy. Pitch is suspicious, but a bit too widely suspected. Have his packmates decided to sacrifice him this early? I should be writing a thesis proposal, but I think I'll have to put together an analysis of Pitch first... |
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01-06-2011, 10:15 AM | #229 |
shadow of a doubt
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Okay. So if we don't lynch her today, and she sticks to her word, she'll get mod-fired and quietly leaves the game two Days from now. And if we lynch her today she'll take one player with her, for good or bad. Like a said before, think I'd prefer the former alternative. More fun if anything else.
Should return soonish with some thought on the voting toDay and yesterDay.
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01-06-2011, 10:17 AM | #230 |
shadow of a doubt
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Actually I've a statement to make:
I am the real hunter. EDIT: How's that for post 1000?
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01-06-2011, 10:26 AM | #231 | |||
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Back again, few comments on people in order of appearance...
Nessa is at least not very contributive. And the random post about Cobbler (209) was in relation to what exactly? And there is one person I became worried of when I saw the opening of his post toDay: Skip. And that made me recall that his posts close to the end of yesterDay seemed in some way awkward to me too. All the general talk of the "crowd", basically listing a list of names from whom people could pick to lynch someone, supporting that way general suspicion would be totally Wolvish thing to do. If there is anything that does not fit into the "I will suspect the people whom majority might suspect and go with the flow" scheme, it is funnily enough his suspicion of me. But just looking at the post overall, from the greeting (which was the first thing that caught my attention) through what I have mentioned above: Quote:
And the end - the last four sentences about the Wolves hiding in the crowd - sounds so disgustingly alibistic... Quote:
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And now the last thing, speaking of the Hunter: so it seems that Kit cannot come back after all? Like, not at all? I hope she could pop up - and basically what I said above would be the best solution... But if not, then perhaps it will be the best to just leave it be and eventually have her modfired. Because it does not make any difference, in that case, whether we lynch her or let her modfired - or even worse, actually, if we don't know whom she hunts, lynching her will be like choosing a totally random kill. EDIT: x-ed since Nogrod. NOW WHAT THE???? SKIP????
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01-06-2011, 10:27 AM | #232 |
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Really, skip? So what does that mean: Kit's trying to get us to waste a lynch on her, instead of getting modfired? I'm not sure that I buy it. How about we lynch you, and you then hunt Kit? That would take care of the question.
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01-06-2011, 10:29 AM | #233 | |||
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The thing with wilwa is, she spoke like twice about how I put sally's cobbler point into the spotlight. If I'm innocent and someone who's behaved cobblerish goes and underlines a statement that basically says "the cobbler might send her own name tonight," I'd think "Ah-ha! You got caught! Lynch!" while wilwa hasn't really suspected me because of it. Not that I mind (because I actually am innocent ), but it looks a bit too careful to my liking. Quote:
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Legate's #174... something strikes me as 'off' there. I'm not sure what, exactly, but it's the part about "well this is why I suspected Lottie yesterday, but I don't suspect her anymore" when he doesn't go on to explain exactly why, just referencing 'her later posts'. I've never played a game with Cailin by herself, I don't think, but as of #178 I adore her! Quote:
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Regarding Skip and his hunter claim - I don't buy it. I think he was just looking for an epic 1000th post. Regarding Kitanna - I'm going to voice an idea no one seems to have come up with yet - given that there are currently five baddies and two kills a night, it doesn't really seem fair to the village to handicap them due to inactivity. I personally think the fair thing to do would be to redistribute Kitanna's role. *shrug*
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01-06-2011, 10:32 AM | #235 |
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Hey people, skip is referring to a fake hunter reveal he once did as an ordo, so no need to get worried. At least that's what I think.
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01-06-2011, 10:34 AM | #236 |
shadow of a doubt
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haha, relax people, just a joke, I'm not the hunter.
For those who didn't play in Lommy's game a few months back, I falsely and foolishly claimed to be the hunter in that game.
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01-06-2011, 10:39 AM | #237 |
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Oh, I well remember that! Don't be difficult, though. As I recall, that didn't turn out so well for the good side.
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01-06-2011, 10:40 AM | #238 |
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Okay, so here goes? Well... actually, it makes a lot more sense now. (Originally, I was tempted to also write into my previous post the quote of you saying that we should just leave Kitanna be, which at that time seemed like undermining the Hunter's work and making sure she does not get a chance to hit...)
But now I can't see you saying that you are the Hunter if you are a Wolf, that would be suicide. And aside from that, after Kit is modfired, if it turns out she was the Hunter, we'll know that we can lynch you. So I trust you now. I think it now makes sense that Kit as a Wolf could no longer play and thus tried to apologize to her mates for leaving them... (although why did she pick to reveal as the Hunter and not the Seer?) Anyway, therefore, here goes my starting suspicion. But good. As for you, skip, well, at least hope you will remain as a nuisance for the WWs. If you are careful about picking your kills, try to keep them somewhat obscure and such, then the WWs will fear to kill you and thus you could stay around as a known innocent (after Kit is gone)... For that matter, now thinking about that, what to do with Kit, then? Since if she is a Wolf, then if we don't lynch her, the WWs will still have two kills. So in fact, it might be the best to lynch her now. What do ye say? EDIT: x-ed with the bunch and certain silly person. Skip! One more joke like that and I will seriously lynch you!
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01-06-2011, 10:46 AM | #239 | |
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Therefore, scratch all that I have said in my previous post. So Kit is the Hunter, we should decide what to do with her, and skip, now I wonder if you would dare to joke like this as a Wolf. But right now... bleagh!
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01-06-2011, 10:52 AM | #240 | |
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And sorry for triple-posting, but blame the person up there.
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