Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves)

[mormegil]

I feel that the bear convoludes that game and doesn't actually enhance play at all. The name of the game is Werewolf not Werebear. Having two villagers dead per night is a little extreme and it makes it difficult to overcome. And as Kuru shows us, it's not like the villagers are winning many games.

[Cailín]

I'm with Formendacil on this one. Count me in. I cannot resist.

However, if you could postpone Night 1 till Thursday, I'd be immensely grateful. Otherwise, there will be no posts from me on Day 1.

I agree with mormegil when it comes to the Bear - it's not my favourite role and I think it quite unbalances the game. I don't have any serious objections, though. I like the Cobbler more than the Cursed, but either is fine and if the game is large enough, both is okay too.

I love the combining of the Hunter / Ranger with the Shiriffs. That could work out fairly well, I think.

[Meneltarmacil]

I actually remembered that I had something to do Wednesday, so I am going to start Night 1 at 3:00 PM on Thursday, February 2nd. I will choose your roles and PM them to you on the Tuesday before that.

And actually, there won't be a Bear after all. Cobbler is in regardless. An Apprentice will be added for 18, and a Cursed will be added for 20. 20 is the absolute maximum.

[Kath]

Against all rational thought I'd like to be included please Menel if you still have room!

[Meneltarmacil]

All right. Formendacil, Cailín, and Kath, you're in. That brings the total number up to 15. If more want to play, there's room for five more.

[Kuruharan]

And as Kuru shows us, it's not like the villagers are winning many games.

Yeah, but didn't the villagers win at least one of the games that had the bear in it?

The bear doesn't just kill villagers you know.

[Glirdan]

Hmmmm.... By the looks of things, I might actually be able to play. Thursday you say? Well, put my name down and I'll give you conformation by Wedensday. That ok Menel?

[malkatoj]

I'll be needing a role then, eh?

Well, I'd like to be the Retired Miracle Man, despite the fact that I'm not a man. It'll be fun, like a game...except it is a game.

This game is promising to be very, very awesome, by the way.

[Meneltarmacil]

Hmmmm.... By the looks of things, I might actually be able to play. Thursday you say? Well, put my name down and I'll give you conformation by Wedensday. That ok Menel?

Hmmm... I suppose so. I'll PM the roles Wednesday instead of Tuesday then.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Yeah, but didn't the villagers win at least one of the games that had the bear in it?

The bear doesn't just kill villagers you know.

Yes that's true but odds are in favor of him/her killing villagers and not wolves.

[the guy who be short]

I was gonna sit this one out and get some physics done but...

Kath's in.

Therefore, TGWBS is obliged to join.
And for my profession... Hmm. An island, eh? In that case, I shall be a mermaid-catcher and fisherman.

[Cailín]

And for my profession... Hmm. An island, eh? In that case, I shall be a mermaid-catcher and fisherman.

Hmm if no one has any objections then I shall be the deluded girl who believes she is a mermaid. For various reasons I think this role would be perfectly suited for me right now.

The player list is looking great! Too bad Nilp decided to join again, though.

Just a suggestion / question Menel: in a village with over 15 innocents and an Apprentice, I think you really should consider adding a Cursed as well, lest the game should become unbalanced. Of course, it is all up to you in the end. And, if the Ranger or Hunter dies, will the Apprentice also take over the Shiriff part of the role?

[Kath]

Hmm if no one has any objections then I shall be the deluded girl who believes she is a mermaid.

Just don't start speaking in Scottish Gaelic and we'll be fine

I'll be the local investigator into the paranormal (and yes that role may have something to do with X-files magazine sitting right next to me!).

[Meneltarmacil]

And, if the Ranger or Hunter dies, will the Apprentice also take over the Shiriff part of the role?

Yes, the Apprentice will take over the Shirriff part as well.

As for adding a Cursed, I suppose I could do that at 18 villagers instead of 20. We currently have 16, so neither the Cursed nor the Apprentice will be in the game unless at least two more sign up. Even if the limit of 20 is reached, though, there will be no Bear.

[Shelob]

For occupations, and if we're on an island, I'd rather like being someone who (fairly) recently washed ashore...Perhaps my boat had a bad time in a storm, perhaps I went out for a swim, perhaps I fell from the moon...and perhaps I was just stretched for ideas.

[Gurthang]

Wow, this looks to be a fantastic game. But alas, I fear for my college work. It has not been a problem yet, but I'm finding my homework increasing. Therefore, I shall not be playing. I plan on being able to join you all again this summer, though I will play again sooner if possible.

Now, forgive me for butting into a discussion of a game I won't be in, but I just wanted to provide information.

There have been two games that have included bears. In the first game, which I was the bear, the wolves were all lynched in four days, leaving just me against the village. Needless to say, the village won that game going away. In the second episode, the bear, Glirdan, died the third day after only getting two kills. The wolves won that one without even losing a one of their own; none of them died. So, right now, that leaves the villagers and wolves tied at 1 each, and the Bears are 0 for 2.

All in all, I really don't think the bear shifts the balance either way. Initially, the wolves are in danger of dying Day and Night, and the villagers are likely to lose two every Night. As soon as the bear is gone, then both obstacles are gone, leaving the village just as if no bear had been there.

But, as I said, I am not in this game, so this is not for me to decide. Hope you guys have fun, I'll be watching as possible.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

For occupations, and if we're on an island, I'd rather like being someone who (fairly) recently washed ashore...Perhaps my boat had a bad time in a storm, perhaps I went out for a swim, perhaps I fell from the moon...and perhaps I was just stretched for ideas.

So, long as you don't go gender-changing on us, Viola...

As for me, I'll be the mysterious lady who lives in the depths of the forest.

[mormegil]

I will be an elven smith. The finest metal smithing in all the region.

[Formendacil]

Occupations, occupations....

One must have one.

Hmmm...

I'll be... Hmmm... what WILL I be?

I'll be the village historian: dusty, musty, and a nose always in a book...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Too bad Nilp decided to join again, though. (Cailín)

Don't worry, Cailín (of the Rohirrim?), I'll be good and non-suicidal . . .

. . . if I'm a Werewolf. Otherwise, forget it.

[Naria]

I'd like to play in another ww game, butArry has started a new rpg and I don't know if I can play in both....can someone let me know if I can/can't.
Hmmm....looked back in this thread and there seems to be alot of experienced players in this ww game....might be over my head if I join in. Could give it a go though!

[Glirdan]

Naria, if you feel intimidated, there is a WWJ game that should be starting as soon as my game is over.

My occupation, if I can play that is, will be the crazy guy down the street. Or something along the lines that have me being crazy in it.

[WaynetheGoblin]

i would like to be the town geek wimp and nerd.

[The Saucepan Man]

I should be OK to play as I now have a dial-up connection at home while my Broadband connection is sorted out. Slow, but at least it allows me to get on-line.

With Wayne, I believe that we have 17 players, 18 if Naria's in too.

I would be quite interested in a game involving the Werebear again. With so many players, I think that the game could support it. But I'm not too bothered about and, seeing as the majority seem to be against it, it's probably best to leave it.

I'm not overkeen on the Apprentice role, as it seems to me that it gives far too much scope for the Gifteds to declare themselves fairly early on, generally resulting in a host of know innocents. Personally, whether a Wolf or a Villager, I prefer the suspense that is entailed in not having too many known innocents around at any one time.

With 17-20 players, 3 Wolves, 1 Cobbler, a Seer, a Ranger/Shirriff and a Hunter/Shirriff seems fairly well-balanced. Given that there are only three Gifteds, I don't think we need a Cursed as well.

As for occupation, I shall be an earnest and learned young man of the law. Not too much role-playing involved (except the 'young' bit ) and it seems to fit with the way I play the game ...

[Meneltarmacil]

Naria, I've included you in the game for the moment, though I'd like confirmation from you before we begin. That's 18 players, but I think Saucepan has a point in his last post.

We'll have:

Three wolves
A Seer
A Ranger (who can communicate with the Hunter by Day)
A Hunter (who can communicate with the Ranger by Day)
A Cobbler

That's about it, though it's subject to change.

Only two more can sign up, then it's closed unless somebody leaves.

[Valier]

All right count me in..(If that's ok)

I shall be the overly giggly,coconut milker....who only milks the coconuts while standing on her head.

[Meneltarmacil]

It is in fact OK. You're in. However, there is now only one spot remaining.

[Naria]

OK!! Count me in. I'll be a crazy old lady that thinks the marine life talks to her

[malkatoj]

Hm, the times look okay, but just so everyone knows--I'm a student and in school from 8-2:30 EST, so will be posting mostly early in the DAY, since I won't be able to get on the computer throughout most of school, though I should be able to make a brief voting-post toward the end if I stay after school to do so. This is not guaranteed.

This weekend, also, I'll be away and probably won't be able to be very active, but I'll get a post/vote in when necessary.

[Meneltarmacil]

I usually get back home around 2:30, and usually start my homework around 4:00, so I chose 3:00 as somewhat of a convenient time. However, I'm not sure that was really the best idea now. To give people more time, I'm changing the beginning/ending time to 3:30 PM EST/ 8:30 PM GMT.

I shall edit my "game players/rules" post to reflect this.

[Valier]

Is there any way we can make the start time 4:00or4:30 est time? I don't get home from school till then,If you can't that's ok but I will have to vote early most days then.

[Márcolië Lamen]

I'll be the second official 8th day adventist Pastafarian.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

I usually get back home around 2:30, and usually start my homework around 4:00, so I chose 3:00 as somewhat of a convenient time. However, I'm not sure that was really the best idea now. To give people more time, I'm changing the beginning/ending time to 3:30 PM EST/ 8:30 PM GMT.

8:30 p.m. GMT is great (although I would have been happy with 8:00 p.m. GMT).

As to my occupation, I'll be... a medical ninja! ( ) What, I'm not allowed to?
Hmm, I noticed that we have all sorts of fruitcakes in this village, but not a single soul selling food, providing health care, cleaning the streets... Well, I think I won't bother either. I'll be a florist.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

I agree, Valier. I'd appreciate a later start (preferably around 4:30-5:00 PM), otherwise you'll have either very, very early votes from me, or very very late ones. But, if the general opinion overrules me, I'll survive.

[Meneltarmacil]

All right, I concede. It will begin at 4:30 PM Eastern time, which is 9:30 PM GMT and 2:30 PM for those from Utah, Alberta etc.

Meaning I'll probably have to rework my homework schedule somewhat...

[Shelob]

Given as my "homework schedule" currently consists of checking to see what I have at about 10pm EST and then (if I have anything) putting it off for at least another hour, you're not alone in needing to revise said "homework schedule"... Speaking of homework ::eyes Calculus which has yet to be done:: I think I'll go... make a "Beware of Senioritis" sign...yeah, that'll work...


>>The whole point of this was to say that 4:30 works excellently, and I forgot it...go figure. If anyone asks, I was distracted by Calc work. Understood?

[Aiwendil]

I'll be an old woodwright.

[Márcolië Lamen]

With it at 4:30, I'll probably be still voting before 4 every day, but that's not a real problem, I just get home right after 4:30, so wouldn't want to risk the inability to vote.

I doubt I'll have an issue, so 4:30 works for me

[Glirdan]

4:30 seems about right for me. So, I might have a problem with that because I'm in school. But I might be able to make last minute votes and participate more early in the Day.

[Garin]

Back to this werebear business... If we have nearly 20 players I think it is a good idea.