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10-29-2010, 07:50 AM | #161 |
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So... I have this mysterious sense of deja vu as I write this... I seem to recall having a no-Nightkill-Day-2 before, with the depressing sense that it's almost Day 1 replayed.
It isn't, of course, since we have the vote record from yesterday. However, it lacks the other-sided corroboration provided by a Night Kill (grotesque as that corroboration might be). Obviously, this situation is different than whichever one sticks in my mind, insofar as it is because the BW is in play--in this case, the wolves were foiled not by the Ranger, but by someone whom they can tactfully leave alone to confuse the villagers--and the Gifteds--or towards whom they can help orchestrate a lynch. I feel like this will reveal a lot of information later, but is going to be of limited assistance right now. I'm pretty much around until the deadline, but I'll be in and out as my interest and other goings-on dictate. I'm *supposed* to be doing homework readings all day...
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So we could look at possible trailless kills, but Lottie has a point, this is a good lead but we still don't have a lot of information and if we start making all these assumptions we could get very side tracked with this BW business instead of looking for the wolves. And I don't see how figuring out who the kill was could possibly lead us to the wolves (maybe we could go the other way, when we know who a wolf is we could come back and then try to figure out the kill), so I say we let it be, put it on the list of info we have about the BW, and wait til we have more pieces. Going on about this could be a terrible waste of time, and if we follow the Seer hint track we could uncover the real one, which is bad. Tom could always look more closely at all that and maybe figure out some suspects (any unlikely kill choices are unlikely to be the BW, that's a great way to narrow down), and maybe he'll get lucky. edit: x'd with Form
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Had I been able to stay later I could have made a more reasonable vote. Now it's Day Two, and now there is no excuse for a lazy vote, but I can't see how you can criticise my vote yesterday. Formendacil, on the other hand, simply effuses lycanthropy.
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Looking at the votes for Agan and Glirdan. It doesn't surprise me that Agan received so many, because she was talking a lot: it's easy to find something to disagree with in there. Not many votes look to me very 'bandwagonny' - perhaps Volo's and Sally's, but not much.
The wolves blended in very nicely, on Day One. Not finding a useful interpretation of the voting record so I'll try the Shasta tactic of... Shasta tactic? Shastactic? Yes, I'll try the Shastactic of guessing who the wolves tried and failed to kill.
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And then. How come certain people are suddenly all convinced I'm the cobbler and look like they weren't considering any other alternatives? I suggested two things. On day 1, when there had been little serious discussion. The first was an idea I truly believed would help us, the second something that occurred to me and which I thought good to throw out in the open. Has it ever occurred to you that I might have been trying to help instead of distracting us from finding the wolves? Some people find it way too easy to dismiss the latter option. After I'm dead, I'd suggest taking a close look at Nog, and to a lesser extent also Nerwen. It'd be extremely convenient for the wolves or the real Ferny to get someone lynched, her only crime being talking too much. Quote:
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Because of that, and because you also fall into the "most eager BW discussers" group I mentioned earlier, and because of what seems to to be an overreaction by you in this post I've quoted, I'm going to vote ++Aganzir Which I admit is an easy vote, and at the same time doesn't have any real evidence to back it up. But I can't leave it any later, and unfortunately this has been a pretty quiet Day.
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10-29-2010, 10:02 AM | #168 | |
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Stop speculating about who the seer is. Thank you.
*throws a gaze at Shasta, Zil & Lottie especially* Reading through toDay I think I need to make this point once again. I try to be short and compact. The first interest of the BW is to not get lynched as only the village can out her. So she can't afford being dreamt of and should then take as low profile as possible in regards the seer; she needs to stay alive to the very end, remember? Do you really consider impersonating the seer (which some of you seem to claim I did) is the way to keep the seer away? Honestly... The second interest of the BW is to have a maximum number of kills happening (due to her hard victory-conditions), so what is the sense of trying to impersonate the seer with the risk of getting it right and thus calling the wolves to meet her during the Night to no kill being made? One more point, courtesy of Greenie: Quote:
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So let's lynch me for being... me? Also, if you think I was overplaying the cobbler thing, please point out which things that I said about the cobblers were irrelevant.
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Overall I feel fairly good about Nog, except the way he is so convinced that Agan is the Cobbler, it's just fishy. Shasta I'm fairly uneasy about, he comes in with his two Assumptions, the first being that the wolves went for the Seer, and then seems to think that Nog is the only possible option for that. Plus his case had a lot of holes in it, and the way he jumped on Inzil for 'defending Nog' was weird, since I don't feel as though Inzil was really defending him, he was more just disagreeing with Shasta's assumptions. Also Volo, this: Quote:
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10-29-2010, 12:25 PM | #174 |
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Back again then... so what should we do? Most of the Day has been spent and I'm not too sure it has been too fruitful.
Well, I have a suggestion. I just checked some of the voting times from yesterDay and saw that Pitchie's vote for Glirdy was a crosspost with Kath's vote making wilwa lead the tally, so I'm a bit less suspicious of it now and am thinking I might have seeing ghosts there. There were basically three wagons there yesterDay but without any added knowledge it's hard to say which were the malicious and which the innocent wagonings. Anyway. Just looking at the discussion - and willing to prevent any more seer-speculation as to the target of last Night's kill, I'd suggest we took the other way and looked at the "no trace" kills ending up with the BW. Why I think so is that... a) The BW needs to stay low so the chances of getting her are probably better from among the quieter ones - but also, and even more importantly: I'd bet a lot we have at least one - if not two -wolves who take the quiet approach as well. b) It seems a lot of people are just hanging around without doing much anything and avoiding any discussions while those more into playing the game suspect each others. And you all know how the lurking baddies are the most dangerous in the end. c) With the misfired kill last Night we could "afford" to try one of the more ambiguos ones. We all know that later we just won't bring ourselves to do it - and the submarine-wolf has good chances of winning. d) Making this kind of move some of the more quieter players would feel a need to talk up (which we'd dearly need) - or the mates of possible lynch candidates would need to step forwards (which would be great later)... So that would be good indeed.
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10-29-2010, 12:26 PM | #175 |
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2 - It won't at all actually! Even with a Ranger save we look for possible wolf choices not so much to find the wolves, but to have a somewhat known innocent. And besides, without first knowing who the wolves even are it's really difficult to guess who they went for, there are many reasons to kill someone, and within those reasons it would be very hard to agree upon who best fits the bill. Without having the knowledge that the wolves have (ie. each other's identities) there's no way to know who they went for accurately enough to really deduce anything useful, right now. 3- Because we're going to waste our time, like I just said there is no way to know who they went for, too many variables and not enough information, if we wait, until at least 1 wolf is dead or something else comes up, then we can go back and say "Ok, so X was a wolf, so who would X have wanted dead back on Night 2", and once we have more information we can make a better estimate. I'm going away for real now. x'ed with Nog and Pitch
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10-29-2010, 12:40 PM | #177 |
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A correction to the last post of mine... before the everlasting discussion begins once again.
I have used the word "quiet" - but I have also used the words "submarine", "no-trace" and "ambiguos". I'm not suggesting we take a post count and start from the bottom, but looking at people who are careful enough not to disturb anything or anyone - and who wish to stay in the back not rubbing anyone the wrong way as to awaken their interest or bad will... Or if we had time to look at it more carefully... who only suspect the kinds of "safe targets" everyone (many enough) suspect and just parrot the suspicions of those others.
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10-29-2010, 12:52 PM | #178 |
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*waves at Nog from my little yellow submarine*
And I have to take back what I said yesterDay about wilwa's vote for Glirdan. I thought it was based on pretty much nothing other than feelings, but clearly she has much more of a gut-based grasp on Glirdan than I do! Let's lynch Agan. It'll make everyone happy ... except Agan ... and then we can finish that argument! Only joking. I was about to make a proper post but I've just been informed that dinner is ready. So I'll be back in a bit to actually say something (hopefully) useful.
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Heeey...I'm here...for a bit...turns out I have a dentist appointment before (and until a bit after) DL, so I'll have to vote soon.
I won't vote for Nog or Shasta, because I actually think they're both relatively innocent. I won't vote for Eomer, because I want to give TB a chance to try and kill TBW, and I think he's the most likely candidate. I won't vote for Vanilwuffin or Zil, because they feel somewhat genuine and I want to hold off on them. I might vote for one of the quieter people. This mostly means Kath, Formy, and Elfie. Of the three, probably not Kath. Maaaybe Formy, but most likely Elfie. I might vote for Pitchie because I suspected him yesterDay, but only if I get a chance to see him post toDay before I have to go.
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*waves back from his bright white hovercraft*
Just peeked in to see if anything's going on here... It is interesting to go through the thread D1 and to see how careful everyone is back there. Back with some results after I've gone through it.
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Right, well, I've got to vote and run, so...
++Elfie Because he's been really quiet, and what he has posted has looked really off (such as his vote post toDay) and because I don't want to vote Pitchie without giving him a chance to post. Good luck...
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2. Just because something is 'hard' doesn't mean we shouldn't do it anyway. Finding wolves is 'hard'. Winning at WW is 'hard'. Should we not do these things as well? 3. That doesn't mean we completely ignore the information we're given! Ignoring anything in this game is foolhardy because the thing we ignore now will come back to bite us later and we'll be like 'why didn't we see that at the time?'!
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Right. I just checked the rules to find that the Seer, in this game, can actually find out the Cobbler, so Shasta's little theory about Nog as a supposed Seer-cum-Wight isn't that shaky as I first thought in this respect. However, Nog has a very good point that impersonating the Seer wouldn't be a brilliant survival strategy for Barry.
One thing I find quite interesting about that theory is that it bypassingly implicates myself, Greenie, wilwa and Agan as possible wolves - in other words, everybody who got Glirdy Goatleaf lynched except himself and Inzil. Now I wonder whether this couldn't be a conceivable reaction from a wolf who's secretly kicking himself for lynching his cobbler, to take it out on the other contributors? On TEW's vote - I would very much like to see a lot more reasoning from him, but I've got a notion where he's coming from, i.e. Eomer's behaviour could remind him of the game when the three of us were packmates together, as it did me. Or he could be have got that idea from me and use it as an excuse. Post some more, man! On Eomer himself, I'm withholding judgement for now till I see whether he's going to be more involved and making some sense. Still don't think Agan looks blatantly evil in any way, like Nog for saying we should stop to speculate about the Seer and give the wolves ideas, like Volo better toDay, like wilwa a lot and don't at all get where all the votes against her were coming from; dislike Form's "maybe-I-can-be-bothered-maybe-not" attitude, have to look closer at everybody else. Lottie, if you're still around: does or doesn't the change in the rules re Barry's endgame killing power affect your opinion that we shouldn't 'waste' a lynch on them in any way ? EDIT: x-ed with Lottie and Shasta
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2. It's already been pointed out that Aganwolf doesn't make sense in the context of this theory, which casts doubt on the rest of you being wolvish as well (in the context of this theory). 3. In the context of your theory, I've been going after Inzil all Day... why on earth would I pass up yet another chance to do so? (Sidenote - I've tried typing up this post three times, and each time the internet has inexplicably closed... I think I beat it this time though! )
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I....don't feel like arguing with you, because I don't like your tone and I think my tone probably wouldn't be much better, so I'm going to stop. We disagree, it happens, whatever, I'm going to move on now. So, I'm going to skim through the day again, and try to come up with an actual suspect. But I think I'm agreeing with the people who are leaning towards quiet ones, there are a lot of them, and I have this feeling that alot of the loud ones right now, the ones that are arguing with each other and all suspicious of each other, are mostly innocents while the baddies are chilling back going unnoticed. x'ed with Shasta
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Re: Wilwa - I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings or anything. I'm just overly fond of the rolleyes smiley. I wasn't trying to be mean, and if I came off that way I apologize.
Re: Agan - "Not overly fond"? That cuts me to the quick, it really does. However, coming from someone who goes from agreeing with me re: Volo to going after me for a reason I've explained multiple times, it doesn't cut as much as it normally would.
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1. Yes, I got that. 2. Actually, the unlikeliness that Agan is a wolf, based on your theory, doesn't mean the rest of us can't be. Just saying. 3. I had the impression that you were going more after Nog than after Zil, but yes, that makes sense, thanks. (x-ed with wilwa and Agan) EDIT: also x-ed with Shasta, I see.
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Greenie calls!
Greenie called me a minute ago.
She can't get her laptop to connect to the internet and as she has not been able to read what has been discussed about for the last few hours she said she would not vote. On another note, I'm almost done with my re-read and I think I have to adjust / add to some of my previous thoughts...
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10-29-2010, 02:33 PM | #196 |
Wight of the Old Forest
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Ah, I forgot to reply to that. What I meant was you could be faking confusion to cover up that you were trying to mislead us on purpose on Barry's winning conditions, but you already answered that yesterDay that you would have considered that 'unsportsmanlike', and I feel you're the kind of person who may actually have her own code of honour on such things, so I think I'm satisfied as to that.
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10-29-2010, 02:43 PM | #197 |
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Eomer - Agan
Glirdan - wilwa Volo - Agan 2 sally - Agan 3 Greenie - Glirdan wilwa - Glirdan 2 Form - wilwa 2 Kath - wilwa 3 Pitch - Glirdan 3 Zil - Glirdan 4 Aganzir – Glirdan 5 EW – Volo Loslote – Agan 4 Nogrod – Agan 5 Shasta – Glirdan 6 No vote: Nerwen If I'm not mistaken. Assumptions based upon the votes alone won't help. I'm sorry, but I really don't have much to say. Greenie feels better now that I've reread her posts. Not anyhow especially alarming and contributing well enough. Might do good to keep her around. wilwa also gives out the ordo vibe. sally wouldn't like to see lynched. However at this moment I'm a bit desperate. Half of the players are really deep under the sea. And the talkative players don't seem to get anywhere. As uncreative as it really is, I nearly see most sense in voting a quiet player. Somebody who isn't even trying/able to contribute. Eomer, tEW, me... there's quite a choice. And no, I do not imply that I'm the Cobbler. I'll probably end up bandwagoning whoever feels the guiltest. If I manage to overtake my friend's computer again. :/ |
10-29-2010, 02:44 PM | #198 | |
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Not sure who I'll vote for yet. I could possibly go for Eomer or Volo, but I'd like to see more of both first. x/d with Volo himself
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10-29-2010, 03:00 PM | #199 |
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I went through D1 to see what people were doing in the light of bantering (b), talking about game-mechanics (m), suspecting (s), making suspicions via banter (bs) defending (d), self-defending (sd), finding someone odd (o), explaining (e), being neutral (n)... (neutral suspicion and neutral defence are also marked - as (ns) and (nd) - you know that "maybe or maybe not"...)
NB. Producing tallies or saying "I'm around" are interpreted as mechanics-talk (m) NB.2. A number after an s (suspect) or a d (defend) means how many people it concerns. The letter only means the person is suspecting/defending one person only. My perspective on this was and is that the wolves would not like to spread suspicion around as that would lead to bad feelings and thus a heightened possibility of getting lynched while the goodies would try to find anything that is suspicious and bring that forwards. On the same logic, the wolves would like to rub people the right way while the ordo's should care less of it. There are different conceptions of this to be sure. Also remember that those symbols are for general interpretation: a d (for "defending someone" is just speaking good of someone, not everytime saying "s/hes not bad!") etc. As an example: Glirdy-cobbler: m m m/sd That means he made two posts talking of the game.mechanics (m & m) and then one talking about the game mechanics and making a self-defence (m/sd). So here's first whom I think were the least "productive" on D1 (D1, mind you... it's not the same toDay with all of these people) Okay? (in brackets a comment on the vote that person made) Eomer: b bs bs (too talkative) Sally: b b m m m (meta: quite a wishy-washy vote) Nerwen: m m b/m m (no vote?) The Elf-Warrior: b b m m m (someone found a Freudian slip) Form: b b d/s2 (meta: the odd choosing the more fun from more useful) Kath: b/bd b m ns3 (wilwa not particularly guilt-ridden) Okay more to come... just a short break to read - and to have a cigarette...
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10-29-2010, 03:03 PM | #200 | |
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So what do we know? I still think the wolves will want to keep Barry around for a while, but get rid of xem before xe becomes too much of a nuisance. (In the end, of course, they won't care whether they lose to xem or the village.) Barry will only gain xer killing power, and be able to win, once the wolves are all gone. So xe has to lie low for now, avoid to get lynched, and might even help us to get rid of them first. We (the village) want to get rid of all of them, and we certainly don't want Barry to gain xer killing powers. (That's why I'm still wary of Lottie for suggesting we don't lynch Barry in the (unlikely) case that we get a chance to do so; but I'll probably return her courtesy and not vote her toDay in her absence.) At the moment I don't really have a clue what to conclude from all of this, but it's food for thought.
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