Password

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I am being thick here but I don't get why three directions is north? V clever password btw

Thanks Mith! The three directions are north-down-s.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Thanks Mith! The three directions are north-down-s.

Ah.....
Yes of course...plank moment...

[Pervinca Took]

That was a great password, Galadriel! And the verbal "fruit salads" game was fun.

Feel indebted to Mithalwen for seeing that the second clue was *one of* the Heren Istarion - as that was how I finally saw the password.

Here's the next password. Enjoy!

1. Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
2. Hobbit on a kosher diet?
3. Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
4. The Spanish element has a princely quality.
5. Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
6. Unfortunate bovine creature.
7. Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
8. Troubled double agent in Doriath.
9. A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
10. Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
11. Heavy metal town? Confused.
12. Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
13. Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
14. First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
15. It blooms unwillingly.
16. Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

GladmI helped...wasn't exactly my finest hour...and now the rammas echor is exceeded...but I think 13 is Hasufel, the horse loaned to Aragorn by Eómer.
?

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

GladmI helped...wasn't exactly my finest hour...and now the rammas echor is exceeded...but I think 13 is Hasufel, the horse loaned to Aragorn by Eómer.
?

Indeed it is.

1. Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
2. Hobbit on a kosher diet?
3. Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
4. The Spanish element has a princely quality.
5. Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
6. Unfortunate bovine creature.
7. Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
8. Troubled double agent in Doriath.
9. A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
10. Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
11. Heavy metal town? Confused.
12. Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
14. First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
15. It blooms unwillingly.
16. Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

4 Elboron? As only known child of Faramir I assume he would have been Prince of Ithilien in his turn and I auppose Dior's son would have been a prince ..

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

4 Elboron? As only known child of Faramir I assume he would have been Prince of Ithilien in his turn and I auppose Dior's son would have been a prince ..

Yes, EL plus the element BORON - Elboron was Faramir's son and so the second Prince of Ithilien - where does Dior's son come into it, though?

1. Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
2. Hobbit on a kosher diet?
3. Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
ELBORON: The Spanish element has a princely quality.
5. Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
6. Unfortunate bovine creature.
7. Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
8. Troubled double agent in Doriath.
9. A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
10. Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
11. Heavy metal town? Confused.
12. Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
14. First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
15. It blooms unwillingly.
16. Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

Sorry got muddled..in one draft Elured and Elurin were Elboron and Elbereth.

[Pervinca Took]

Ah OK, is that somewhere in HOME?

[Mithalwen]

Prolly. How peculiarv3 is Elured isn't it? Lose E, literally disorientating.removing the east! Lured is enticed.

[Galadriel55]

5. Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?

Funnily enough, for this one the only thing I have so far is Marigold (Gamgee), who is not related to the Tooks and who contains "old".

[Mithalwen]

Having studied the family trees, Pippin's grandfather - who wasn't a Thain himself, was Adalgrim, which is anagram of Grima lad.

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Prolly. How peculiarv3 is Elured isn't it? Lose E, literally disorientating.removing the east! Lured is enticed.

Very close, but the function of "disorientated" is much less elaborate, and you have changed tense to get to Elured.

Adalgrim is correct, though, and for the reason you stated.

1. Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
2. Hobbit on a kosher diet?
3. Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
ELBORON: The Spanish element has a princely quality.
ADALGRIM: Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
6. Unfortunate bovine creature.
7. Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
8. Troubled double agent in Doriath.
9. A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
10. Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
11. Heavy metal town? Confused.
12. Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
14. First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
15. It blooms unwillingly.
16. Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

Will try the other then..Elurin. just an anagram of lure in...overcooked it

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Will try the other then..Elurin. just an anagram of lure in...overcooked it

Yes. I was just trying to avoid using "confused" too many times. I think "disorientated" kind of works as a "scramble/mix/anagram" indicator, but the idea of using it to extract an E is very cool indeed and something I hadn't thought of. ("Loses note/direction/point" is harder to solve, though, of course - several possibilities to choose from).

I thought you might guess that one quickly after your comment re. Dior's sons.

Thought "within" a bit naff but couldn't think of another synonym for "in" in that context.

1. Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
2. Hobbit on a kosher diet?
ELURIN: Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
ELBORON: The Spanish element has a princely quality.
ADALGRIM: Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
6. Unfortunate bovine creature.
7. Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
8. Troubled double agent in Doriath.
9. A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
10. Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
11. Heavy metal town? Confused.
12. Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
14. First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
15. It blooms unwillingly.
16. Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

Not a lot of cows in Middle Earth that we see...but Farmer Giles' Galathea gets squished... So I will try her.

Ooh2 Hamfast? Been bugging me all day.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Ooh2 Hamfast? Been bugging me all day.

Ohhh, I get it! Good one!

[Mithalwen]

Stab atvthe password The Eagle and Child?

[Pervinca Took]

All three correct!

And I was going to say that Tolkien was usually kind to animals in his tales ... but then I remembered that two sets of ponies got eaten. (At least, I think the goblins would have eaten the first lot). And Snowmane didn't have a very easy end, either.

Chilling thought, but JRRT must have known how many horses suffered and perished in the Great War. I wonder if that is somehow reflected in his stories, as one of the realities of war. I really ought to read that John Garth book that I bought so long ago ....

T: Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
HAMFAST: Hobbit on a kosher diet?
ELURIN: Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
ELBORON: The Spanish element has a princely quality.
ADALGRIM: Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
GALATHEA: Unfortunate bovine creature.
L: Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
E: Troubled double agent in Doriath.
A: A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
N: Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
D: Heavy metal town? Confused.
C: Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
I: First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
L: It blooms unwillingly.
D: Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

Oh the dragon ones...yes I think Bill's unlikely survival was penance maybe. But The hobbit was written before horses had been totally superseded as transport and become merely recreational.

Totally awesome password. I was baffled by the double e since it clearly wasn't Bree. Then was looking for eagle places in middle earth.

[Pervinca Took]

I already had a password ready, but I got clue-writing fever last weekend when we were puzzling over Galadriel's, and for some reason decided out of nowhere to try to do The Eagle And Child. Am working on one a bit more along the lines of Galadriel's last one, too (I hope that's OK?). (Because that was doublepluscool).

[Mithalwen]

Oxonmoot on your mind....

[Pervinca Took]

Probably.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Am working on one a bit more along the lines of Galadriel's last one, too (I hope that's OK?). (Because that was doublepluscool).

You are to goodmindful (I'd say thoughtful but that's a word that would not exist alongside doublepluscool ). I'm not the first one to twist the password - a while ago I read through this thread, and what tricks and scrambles you can't find! In one password you had to take the first letter of the answer and the first letter of the clue to get the password.

[Pervinca Took]

Codebreakers, indeed.

I'll be away until Sunday evening, but Mith can text me if any answers need confirming, and post my replies (or the gist of them) on my behalf.

[Mithalwen]

Last one I think is Durin calledvdeathless and anagram of druid if you switch a d for n.

Edit have texted Pervinca and thismis correct

[Mithalwen]

Trying Aros for the a ..anagram of oars.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Trying Aros for the a ..anagram of oars.

And Dale anagram of lead

[Pervinca Took]

Yes, all three correct, as confirmed by text.

T: Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
HAMFAST: Hobbit on a kosher diet?
ELURIN: Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
ELBORON: The Spanish element has a princely quality.
ADALGRIM: Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
GALATHEA: Unfortunate bovine creature.
L: Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
E: Troubled double agent in Doriath.
AROS: A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
N: Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
DALE: Heavy metal town? Confused.
C: Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
I: First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
L: It blooms unwillingly.
DURIN: Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

Sure this is wrkng but fixating .Eglador for the Doriath one and Lissuin for the bloom on. But neither fully work.

[Pervinca Took]

No. But to make it easier, the remaining E is a person you might find in Doriath, and the "bloom one" is a linguistic clue.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I think I've worked out some of these.

LOTHLORIEN is the reluctant bloomer
LAWKS is, I suspect the exclamation
CEORL is the warrior
and ILMARË is the heavenly helpmeet

There are some difficult ones in there. I shall have to get my thinking cap on.

[Mithalwen]

I wondered about ceorl because all the letters are in Celeborn but was stymied by beak.
I couldn't get beyond laps for roundabout perambulations....gah

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Celeborn - neb then unscramble

[Pervinca Took]

Well done! Mostly correct. "Neb" is found more in northern dialect, perhaps (nowadays, at least) - "Keep your neb out" was an expression my mother was quite fond of.

Yes, Ilmare is "I" plus "realm," Varda's helpmeet (and both quite concerned with the stars and the heavens). I did look up helpmeet, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a helper who is a mate as in partner (although it usually is).

Lothlorien is very nearly right, but I usually account for every bit of the word ... you've just provided a little too much. Maybe splitting hairs, but ....

I'd say the first T is the most obscure of those remaining. But it's findable.

T: Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
HAMFAST: Hobbit on a kosher diet?
ELURIN: Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
ELBORON: The Spanish element has a princely quality.
ADALGRIM: Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
GALATHEA: Unfortunate bovine creature.
LAWKS: Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
E: Troubled double agent in Doriath.
AROS: A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
N: Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
DALE: Heavy metal town? Confused.
CEORL: Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
ILMARE: First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
LOTH: It blooms unwillingly.
DURIN: Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?

[Mithalwen]

Never heard of neb. But I am a Southron...

[Mithalwen]

Oh is the L just loth ..Sindarin for Flower?

[Pervinca Took]

Yes (now edited into my last post).

[Mithalwen]

Oooooh Elmo...Thingol's mysterioua and possibly Muppet brother. Anagram of mole.

[Pervinca Took]

Good work! (Completely confused on the Muppet aspect, though) ...was he considered an Elf of very little brain, or did he do some daft things that I've forgotten?

T: Declare sudden flight in confusion on the Blessed Isle.
HAMFAST: Hobbit on a kosher diet?
ELURIN: Entice within? Disorientated. One of a doomed pair.
ELBORON: The Spanish element has a princely quality.
ADALGRIM: Young Wormtongue confused at Great Smials?
GALATHEA: Unfortunate bovine creature.
LAWKS: Roundabout perambulations, Merry exclaims.
ELMO: Troubled double agent in Doriath.
AROS: A mixture of rowing implements needed here.
N: Probably a homely place, if no entrance to paradise.
DALE: Heavy metal town? Confused.
CEORL: Galadriel’s squeeze keeps beak out for a warrior.
HASUFEL: Ash fuel used for transport in Rohan.
ILMARE: First person joins troubled kingdom. A heavenly helpmeet.
LOTH: It blooms unwillingly.
DURIN: Legendary priest gets muddled and loses note, but gains direction as immortal, perhaps?