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The Only Real Estel · 10-13-2005, 10:29 AM

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In all seriousness...it might be worth testing if it is something that the Hunter can only do once a game or something like that. It should not be an every NIGHT event.

I prefer games that aren't overloaded with powerful roles but it would be fun to test. The one extra kill idea is probably the best one. A kill every night would be overkill, but it would be interesting if the Hunter could kill someone every night but was given the choice to decided not to kill anyone. That would keep the pressure on the wolves to try to find him/her quickly, but wouldn't force the Hunter to do any of the wolves work for them.

Anyway, like I said, the one extra kill idea is the best, but I think a game with the "kill when you want" option would be at the very least entertaining.

Anguirel · 10-13-2005, 10:32 AM

I like Hunter/Ranger, (in other words, yawn, a Hero) but throwing in Seer is bizarre!

The Fellowship...

Frodo (Cursed Villager)
Sam (ordinary)
Merry
Pippin (Shiriffs)
Gandalf (Ranger/Seer)
Aragorn (Ranger/Hunter)
Boromir (Mythomaniac)
Legolas (Hunter)
Gimli (Werebear)

Not sure where that came from...

Cailín · 10-13-2005, 11:17 AM

I like the games as they are now, but it is funny how the wolves seem to keep winning. I actually never read a game which ended in happily ever after, except for the recent Junior one.

So it might be not such a bad idea to give the villagers an extra gifted. I think the idea of a Hunter/Seer/Ranger would cause terrible confusion at least and probably instant suicide or death of the entire village. But boosting the Hunter a little or maybe try having another gifted villager with the power of once being able to kill during Day, might work out.

Though in the end, I still think minimalistic games are the most fun.

Mithalwen · 10-13-2005, 11:37 AM

I did try to have Hunter and Guardian cooperate in my game but since the original Hunter was a no-show and the Guardian was wolfed pronto it didn't really work. However if I do another one, I might try a "Hero" since it would put a bit of uncertainty into the mix.

Lalaith · 10-13-2005, 11:51 AM

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I actually never read a game which ended in happily ever after,

Cailin, the first two games I played in, IV and VIII, were villager wins.
In fact *whispers modestly* I have always been on the winning side...

the phantom · 10-13-2005, 12:13 PM

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IV and VIII, were villager wins

Yes, yes... IV was the first villager win. I had a lot of fun being a "Shirriff" in that game.

That was the game where I suggested that an innocent villager volunteer to be lynched on Day 1. Who can forget that?

Anguirel · 10-13-2005, 01:10 PM

That was my personal favourite too. My only victory as a defender of the village...

Come to think of it, like several others I imagine, I've never survived...

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-13-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Come to think of it, like several others I imagine, I've never survived...

Now the fun thing of this is that I've survived a few times and can't for the life of me figure out how. The very first game, I was one of three (my death at the hands of Oddwen sealed Kuru's win) at the end even though I was one of the top suspects from Day One. I think my favorite survival was as a wolf.

Lalaith · 10-13-2005, 03:33 PM

I survived until the very last day in WWIV, when I nobly offered myself up for lynching so that evil wolf lmp would die with me.

But the only time I was still alive and kicking at end of play was as a wolf.

Gurthang · 10-13-2005, 03:53 PM

So wait. You mean to tell me that the wolves have won every time except IV, IIX, and WWJ I? Haven't the villagers done better than that?

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 10-13-2005, 03:59 PM

OOO I will have to keep an eye out for Phantom's game...Sounds like a very interesting read! What with Phantom modding and a village that is promised to be full of experienced ww players, I will be eagerly reading along!

Glirdan · 10-13-2005, 04:04 PM

I'd say!!! I really wanted to play in that!!! Oh well, next time!!!! Next time.....

mormegil · 10-13-2005, 04:07 PM

I'm not exactly sure which ones but I believe the villagers have won about 1/3 of the time. I believe it was in WW6 that we had the second mythomaniac and we ended up having 2 seers. Needless to say we won the game though it was slightly one sided. Those poor wolves didn't stand much of a chance.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-13-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mormegil

Those poor wolves didn't stand much of a chance.

Not a chance at all, given that one of the last narrations actually had me naming people off, as they'd all been identified at that point. "Holby, I need your spite kill."

Gil-Galad · 10-13-2005, 04:34 PM

I've heard that Phantom is the next Moddess Goddess... i'm so in...

Gurthang · 10-14-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurthang

1. If the wolves kill the Hunter and the Hunter chooses the person the Ranger is protecting, what happens?

I guess this got overlooked due to my unorthodox suggestion. Does anyone feel like answering? Even just to agree that it's a Mod's choice?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-14-2005, 08:26 PM

While it's entirely up to the Mod what s/he wants to do, I would have it that the Ranger gets the save. After all, it's no different protecting a villager from a human hunter as it is a four-leggèd one.

AbercrombieOfRohan · 10-14-2005, 08:32 PM

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I believe it was in WW6 that we had the second mythomaniac and we ended up having 2 seers.

About this, would the seer PM the Mytho/seer and tell them the person they had already dreampt of?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-14-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AbercrombieOfRohan

About this, would the seer PM the Mytho/seer and tell them the person they had already dreampt of?

No. That would be equivalent to ordinary villagers comparing notes via PM, which is against the rules. Also, the original Seer has no idea who the Mytho Seer is, unless the Mytho decides to reveal his/herself, or s/he dies, or gives intentional hints.

mormegil · 10-14-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurthang

I guess this got overlooked due to my unorthodox suggestion. Does anyone feel like answering? Even just to agree that it's a Mod's choice?

Gurthang from what I have understood the Ranger only protects against wolf attacks. I think, though I could be wrong, but that the most recent Mod, Holby, was asked this and she echoed what I said. But in the end, as in all things, it's really up to the mod.

the phantom · 10-14-2005, 11:41 PM

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If the wolves kill the Hunter and the Hunter chooses the person the Ranger is protecting, what happens?

Well, I think it would be funny if the Ranger got killed in that situation.

I mean, since the Ranger is guarding the person, he is in the way of the Hunter's shot, and so the Ranger takes the arrow.

Heh heh. That would be very very evil.

I won't use that rule in my current game, but I might in a future game.

Holbytlass · 10-15-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LMP

A List of Medieval Occupations

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Granted, the games aren't always set in a Medieval time, but Middle Earth is often the general place for our version, so I thought I'd help out a little by offering a list I found in a great historical fiction book:

Wheelwright
Trader in crockery and pewter
Ironmonger
Fish seller
Cordwainer
Butcher
Baker
Cloth-seller
Tailor
Silversmith (intriguing possibilities in a werewolf game?)
Carpenter
Leatherworker
Bellows-maker
Glover
Hatter
Yarnmaker
Rabbitseller
Spicer
Greengrocer
Garlic seller (again, interesting possibilities?)
Poultry merchant
Cooper (barrel maker)
Coal seller
Salt merchant
Oatmeal seller
Hog dealer
Wool merchant
Carter
Mason
Shepherd
Coppersmith
Money lender
Cheese seller
Tanner
Aulnager (exacter of fees and fines from the local feudal lord)

There are probably more, but this list was all in one place, so I thought I'd offer it.

I left out the sacred professions as they are not appropo to Middle Earth.

I brought this forward for ideas.

WaynetheGoblin · 10-27-2005, 05:50 AM

Who is moding the next game.

Boromir88 · 10-27-2005, 07:56 AM

I will sit the next couple games out. I'll be approaching the busy time of year again and plus I think it'll be good for my health.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 10-27-2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WaynetheGoblin

Who is moding the next game.

If I recall right, it's my turn now. Oromin and Gil are in line, too.

mormegil · 10-27-2005, 08:08 AM

As much as I'd love to play in your game spawn I think I need to sit this one out and actually sleep at night...plus Mrs. Mormegil requests that I sit at least one out

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-27-2005, 08:33 AM

I'm out too. Two games running has done a number on my sleeping habits. Like I expected, that four hours of sleep I got last night isn't cutting it. But I'll definately keep tabs on the game, if only because I always enjoy narrations.

WaynetheGoblin · 10-27-2005, 12:29 PM

I would like to play. Ill be the goldsmith.

Formendacil · 10-27-2005, 01:58 PM

I'm a nervous wreck thanks to the last two games.... I need to sit a few out, maybe come back in November/December... or even next year.

I need to start putting my mind to learning a new job, rather than hunting down Werewolves (or the opposite thereof

)

Lalaith · 10-27-2005, 02:30 PM

I'm sorely tempted....dancing spawn, when were you thinking of starting?

Glirdan · 10-27-2005, 02:37 PM

Now I can't decide on who's game I'd like to play in. Perky's or yours. IDEA!!! I'll sign up in this one, but put me down as "willing to step down if needed". I'll be the hog dealer.

Eonwe · 10-27-2005, 02:52 PM

what type of game are you shooting for? big and tricksy, or small and straightforward, or a delightful mix of...all both? i'd like to play, but i most certainly shoudn't. but, alas, i have not the self-restraint to resist the call...

Boromir88 · 10-27-2005, 04:18 PM

It's sad, I know I said I would sit out, but I'm sorely tempted to play in Spawn's game. But, I'll be reserve, if any more players are needed you know where to find me.

Meneltarmacil · 10-27-2005, 04:30 PM

I think I'll sign up for this game, as "dinosaur researcher/fossil hunter."

tar-ancalime · 10-27-2005, 05:23 PM

I'd also like to play (I'll be a charlatan), but it will depend entirely on timing. When are you going to start?

(Also I'll understand if you want to stock your game with more experienced players.)

wilwarin538 · 10-27-2005, 05:55 PM

I want to play, but I really shouldnt. It took up a lot of time for me and I need to concentrate on school

Why must this game be so adictive.

*sigh* Sign me up please. I'll get back to you on occupation. If I don't you can make one up for me.

*sigh* Summer school it is.

But this is my last one, till atleast December. If I try to sign up for the game after Spawn's please restrain me, using any means necisary. Thank you.

Kitanna · 10-27-2005, 06:00 PM

Spawn is going to mod? I'd like to sign up for this.

Alcarillo · 10-27-2005, 06:38 PM

I won't be participating in this game, but please put me on the waiting-to-mod list.

Meneltarmacil · 10-27-2005, 07:35 PM

Actually, put me on the "willing to back out" list, as I've got major school-related things to work around and am not sure I can put in a lot of effort on Werewolf in the near future. If I do wind up playing, please do not expect me to post a whole lot.

Glirdan · 10-27-2005, 07:44 PM

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But this is my last one, till atleast December. If I try to sign up for the game after Spawn's please restrain me, using any means necisary. Thank you.

Same boat as Wilwa. This will definetly be my last game until December. By all means, stop me from joining any other games afterwards.

10-13-2005, 10:32 AM	#1562
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I like Hunter/Ranger, (in other words, yawn, a Hero) but throwing in Seer is bizarre! The Fellowship... Frodo (Cursed Villager) Sam (ordinary) Merry Pippin (Shiriffs) Gandalf (Ranger/Seer) Aragorn (Ranger/Hunter) Boromir (Mythomaniac) Legolas (Hunter) Gimli (Werebear) Not sure where that came from... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-13-2005, 11:37 AM	#1564
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	I did try to have Hunter and Guardian cooperate in my game but since the original Hunter was a no-show and the Guardian was wolfed pronto it didn't really work. However if I do another one, I might try a "Hero" since it would put a bit of uncertainty into the mix. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-13-2005, 01:10 PM	#1567
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	That was my personal favourite too. My only victory as a defender of the village... Come to think of it, like several others I imagine, I've never survived... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-13-2005, 03:33 PM	#1569
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I survived until the very last day in WWIV, when I nobly offered myself up for lynching so that evil wolf lmp would die with me. But the only time I was still alive and kicking at end of play was as a wolf. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

10-13-2005, 03:53 PM	#1570
Gurthang Sword of Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oh, I'm around. Posts: 1,401	So wait. You mean to tell me that the wolves have won every time except IV, IIX, and WWJ I? Haven't the villagers done better than that? __________________ I'm on a Mission from God.

10-13-2005, 11:17 AM	#1563
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	I like the games as they are now, but it is funny how the wolves seem to keep winning. I actually never read a game which ended in happily ever after, except for the recent Junior one. So it might be not such a bad idea to give the villagers an extra gifted. I think the idea of a Hunter/Seer/Ranger would cause terrible confusion at least and probably instant suicide or death of the entire village. But boosting the Hunter a little or maybe try having another gifted villager with the power of once being able to kill during Day, might work out. Though in the end, I still think minimalistic games are the most fun.

10-13-2005, 03:59 PM	#1571
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	OOO I will have to keep an eye out for Phantom's game...Sounds like a very interesting read! What with Phantom modding and a village that is promised to be full of experienced ww players, I will be eagerly reading along! __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

10-13-2005, 04:04 PM	#1572
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	I'd say!!! I really wanted to play in that!!! Oh well, next time!!!! Next time..... __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

10-13-2005, 04:07 PM	#1573
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,648	I'm not exactly sure which ones but I believe the villagers have won about 1/3 of the time. I believe it was in WW6 that we had the second mythomaniac and we ended up having 2 seers. Needless to say we won the game though it was slightly one sided. Those poor wolves didn't stand much of a chance. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

10-13-2005, 04:34 PM	#1575
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	I've heard that Phantom is the next Moddess Goddess... i'm so in... __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

10-14-2005, 08:26 PM	#1577
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	While it's entirely up to the Mod what s/he wants to do, I would have it that the Ranger gets the save. After all, it's no different protecting a villager from a human hunter as it is a four-leggèd one. __________________ peace

10-27-2005, 05:50 AM	#1583
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	Who is moding the next game. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

10-27-2005, 07:56 AM	#1584
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	I will sit the next couple games out. I'll be approaching the busy time of year again and plus I think it'll be good for my health. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-27-2005, 08:08 AM	#1586
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,648	As much as I'd love to play in your game spawn I think I need to sit this one out and actually sleep at night...plus Mrs. Mormegil requests that I sit at least one out __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

10-27-2005, 08:33 AM	#1587
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I'm out too. Two games running has done a number on my sleeping habits. Like I expected, that four hours of sleep I got last night isn't cutting it. But I'll definately keep tabs on the game, if only because I always enjoy narrations. __________________ peace

10-27-2005, 12:29 PM	#1588
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	I would like to play. Ill be the goldsmith. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

10-27-2005, 01:58 PM	#1589
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	I'm a nervous wreck thanks to the last two games.... I need to sit a few out, maybe come back in November/December... or even next year. I need to start putting my mind to learning a new job, rather than hunting down Werewolves (or the opposite thereof ) __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

10-27-2005, 02:30 PM	#1590
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I'm sorely tempted....dancing spawn, when were you thinking of starting? __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

10-27-2005, 02:37 PM	#1591
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Now I can't decide on who's game I'd like to play in. Perky's or yours. IDEA!!! I'll sign up in this one, but put me down as "willing to step down if needed". I'll be the hog dealer. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

10-27-2005, 02:52 PM	#1592
Eonwe Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a world grown ever smaller. Posts: 678	what type of game are you shooting for? big and tricksy, or small and straightforward, or a delightful mix of...all both? i'd like to play, but i most certainly shoudn't. but, alas, i have not the self-restraint to resist the call... __________________ I've got bridge club on Wednesday, Archery on Thursday, Dancing on a Friday night!

10-27-2005, 04:18 PM	#1593
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	It's sad, I know I said I would sit out, but I'm sorely tempted to play in Spawn's game. But, I'll be reserve, if any more players are needed you know where to find me. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-27-2005, 04:30 PM	#1594
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	I think I'll sign up for this game, as "dinosaur researcher/fossil hunter." __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

10-27-2005, 05:23 PM	#1595
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	I'd also like to play (I'll be a charlatan), but it will depend entirely on timing. When are you going to start? (Also I'll understand if you want to stock your game with more experienced players.) __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)

10-27-2005, 05:55 PM	#1596
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	I want to play, but I really shouldnt. It took up a lot of time for me and I need to concentrate on school Why must this game be so adictive. sigh Sign me up please. I'll get back to you on occupation. If I don't you can make one up for me. sigh Summer school it is. But this is my last one, till atleast December. If I try to sign up for the game after Spawn's please restrain me, using any means necisary. Thank you. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

10-27-2005, 06:00 PM	#1597
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	Spawn is going to mod? I'd like to sign up for this. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

10-27-2005, 06:38 PM	#1598
Alcarillo Shadow of the Past Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minas Mor-go Posts: 1,007	I won't be participating in this game, but please put me on the waiting-to-mod list.

10-27-2005, 07:35 PM	#1599
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Actually, put me on the "willing to back out" list, as I've got major school-related things to work around and am not sure I can put in a lot of effort on Werewolf in the near future. If I do wind up playing, please do not expect me to post a whole lot. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

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