Who Was your favorite character in the Silmarilion? - Page 4 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Galadriel · 10-20-2010, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xMellrynxMaidenx

Oh my, that is a really great drawing!

Haha, I could see many reactions to this piece of art as well, for those who don't know Fingon that is.

1. Sword and sheath. Check.

2. Helmet with the complete protective armour. Check.

3. Knife. Check

4. Bow and a quiver of arrows. Check.

5. A harp for musical entertainment. Che-wait, what? Really? A harp?!

*Laughs* Just imagine elves without Music. That's like cake without sugar and butter. No point

I think for Tolkien fans reading LotR, The Hobbit and The Silmarillion is a basic necessity. You can't understand anything otherwise!

Galadriel · 10-20-2010, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I have to admit to being a Maedhros fangirl. That guy is just awesome. *wipes drool* *hides*

That's quite evident from your display picture

And it's okay, you're not alone. *meekly raises hand and admits to being a Maedhros-addict*

xMellrynxMaidenx · 10-20-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel

*Laughs* Just imagine elves without Music. That's like cake without sugar and butter. No point

I think for Tolkien fans reading LotR, The Hobbit and The Silmarillion is a basic necessity. You can't understand anything otherwise!

I completely agree with the delicious comparison you used

haha, every time I eat a piece of cake now I'll think of Fingon and his harp!

The Hobbit and Silmarillion are definite necessities to read beforehand. I read everything completely backwards (the trilogy first, then the hobbit and Sil.) the first time around and was so confused, it wasn't even funny!

Galadriel · 10-21-2010, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xMellrynxMaidenx

The Hobbit and Silmarillion are definite necessities to read beforehand. I read everything completely backwards (the trilogy first, then the hobbit and Sil.) the first time around and was so confused, it wasn't even funny!

Oh god I can identify with that. I should have read The Hobbit first, and THEN the Silmarillion and THEN Lord of the Rings...but I read LotR first (at the nagging of my mother for which I am terribly grateful and for which she regrets her words) and then The Hobbit and then the Sil. Tragedy, really. I would have enjoyed it so much more like that.

Galadriel55 · 11-09-2010, 06:05 PM

I see your point, Galadriel, but I think that the proper way to read it is backwards. I've talked to people who've read TH before LOTR, and neither of them got passed The Fellowship of the Ring. They say its just a repetition of TH, just with different characters and a little more detailed and a lot more complicated. I've read LOTR before TH, and I found the "repetition" quite all right, because I've read the more detailed version first and I already know what and where everything is.
I think that LOTR is the summit of Tolkien's works. TH is very simple compared to it; The Sil is very good, but it's just too much information to put in a separate book - there has to be either a separation or a continuation if it would be written out the "proper way". Tolkien did that with Narn i Hin Hurin, but again, it can't be a separate book. Moreover, he'd probably have to make a separate book for every one of the 6 battles of Beleriand...

My favourite character is probably Finrod, although I have many others. You can call me weird if you want to, but my favourite female character is Morwen, not Luthien.

Galadriel · 11-09-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

neither of them got passed The Fellowship of the Ring.

I believe it's 'got past', my dear

You have a point, but I was being idealistic. IF the Silmarillion was an easy read, I should think I'd read it first. And IF I wouldn't get bored in FotR, I'd read The Hobbit before.

Galadriel · 11-09-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

You can call me weird if you want to, but my favourite female character is Morwen, not Luthien.

Oh trust me, Galadriel55, that's not weird at all. I despise Lúthien. And Arwen. They're both so...unrealistic. And idealized. And the guys who love them are more or less shallow, since they both went, "Ohhh you're prettyyyy...We should be in LOVE."

Do you see?

Galadriel55 · 11-10-2010, 05:59 PM

I see what you mean, but I rather like Aragorn and Beren. I don't think much of their love life, but I like the characters otherwise. I mean, their "love life" is quite interesting at certain times, but by itself it's really a bore. I like the moment in Lothlorien when Aragorn gets all dreamy about Arwen, and I live the interesting things that Beren's love did (especially how he said goodbye to Luthien because he loved her). But I agree with you, Galadriel, that they are shallow when it comes to love. I find Eowyn's romance way more interesting.

Almesiva Moonshadow · 11-23-2010, 02:00 AM

My favourite characters are definitly Melkor and Sauron...
...Do not ask me why...I simply seem to have a thing for bad guys...

Galadriel55 · 11-24-2010, 02:49 PM

I have a thing for seriously evil people, but for some reason that doesn't apply to Tolkien's works.

Galadriel · 11-26-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I see what you mean, but I rather like Aragorn and Beren. I don't think much of their love life, but I like the characters otherwise. I mean, their "love life" is quite interesting at certain times, but by itself it's really a bore. I like the moment in Lothlorien when Aragorn gets all dreamy about Arwen, and I live the interesting things that Beren's love did (especially how he said goodbye to Luthien because he loved her). But I agree with you, Galadriel, that they are shallow when it comes to love. I find Eowyn's romance way more interesting.

True that. But you know what? The romances that really intrigue me are the unknown ones. Like the one with Maglor and his wife, or Curufin and his wife. We don't know who they are, or where they come from, and it seems to me that although people tend to write about their wives a lot, no one has actually sketched them, which is a bit strange if you ask me. It's a sort of...facelessness (that's a scary word), if you see what I mean.

Galadriel · 11-26-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I have a thing for seriously evil people, but for some reason that doesn't apply to Tolkien's works.

I don't have a thing for seriously evil people. I have a thing for those 'villains' who are not really evil, but grey. Like inspector Javert in Les Misérables, or Tom Tulliver in The Mill on the Floss. They're complete jerks, and extremists, not to mention obsessed with something or the other they feel is 'right' (which is actually wrong), but you cannot call them 'evil'.

Galadriel55 · 11-26-2010, 02:25 PM

I don't fancy jerks much. However, in LOTR, TH, The Sil, or Narn, I don't like any evil character.
Well, you know, if you consider Turin a jerk, that doesn't apply either.

Galadriel · 12-06-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I don't fancy jerks much. However, in LOTR, TH, The Sil, or Narn, I don't like any evil character.
Well, you know, if you consider Turin a jerk, that doesn't apply either.

He wasn't a jerk. He was just one of those masochistic, arrogant males

Galadriel55 · 12-15-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel

Lúthien and Arwen. They're both so...unrealistic. And idealized

And Luthien's just to forward for her own good. She does all the work, and Beren gets all the credit.
As for Turin, personally, I don't think he's a jerk. Seriously. I said that cause I noticed that many people here think he is cause sometimes he's VERY annoying.

Galadriel55 · 12-24-2010, 08:36 PM

I sort of like Beren, but I liked him better before I read The Sil.

Galadriel · 12-25-2010, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

And Luthien's just to forward for her own good. She does all the work, and Beren gets all the credit.

*sigh* Such is life...
I once handled all the props and costume design for a school play, and not only did someone else get the credit for it, but my name appeared last in the credits.

Galadriel · 12-25-2010, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I sort of like Beren, but I liked him better before I read The Sil.

I never did like Beren. Frankly, I never liked any of the romantic characters in Tolkien's mythology. Except perhaps Finrod and Amarie, Curufin and his unknown wife and Maglor and his unknown wife. Beren was so...ugh T_T And Tuor...don't even get me started on how much of a Gary Stu he is.

Galadriel55 · 12-25-2010, 10:22 AM

But I like Earendil and Elwing. It's true, though, that all these humans marrying elves are just soooooo.........
I don't really mind Tuor, except for the marriage part. His heart was turned to Idril, and hers was turned to him, and such was Tuor's favor of the King, that he permitted the wedding, etc etc. Such rubbish! I'd much prefer it if Tuor and Idril would run off just after the fall of Gondolin, it would be more real.

Nerwen · 12-25-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel

I never did like Beren. Frankly, I never liked any of the romantic characters in Tolkien's mythology. Except perhaps Finrod and Amarie, Curufin and his unknown wife and Maglor and his unknown wife. Beren was so...ugh T_T And Tuor...don't even get me started on how much of a Gary Stu he is.

Oh well, each to his own. I actually like Beren quite a lot– reminds me of one of my brothers, actually. Tuor is a bit of a Gary Stu, though, I agree.

By the way, I'm not sure Maglor and Curufin's unknown wives actually count as "romantic characters", or indeed characters at all. Isn't the first more of an HoME-footnote type of deal, anyway?

Galadriel · 12-26-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Oh well, each to his own. I actually like Beren quite a lot– reminds me of one of my brothers, actually. Tuor is a bit of a Gary Stu, though, I agree.

By the way, I'm not sure Maglor and Curufin's unknown wives actually count as "romantic characters", or indeed characters at all. Isn't the first more of an HoME-footnote type of deal, anyway?

True. Forgive me, I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was that most romantic couples were just so idealistic they were annoying. Maglor and Curufin though...
Their wives must have had more than a bit of trouble with them. I just find that more interesting.

Urwen · 12-26-2010, 02:09 PM

I thought about some things recently, and I've read a few fanfics. And I realized that I have a new favourite character. One word: Nienor.

Galadriel55 · 12-26-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

I realized that I have a new favourite character. One word: Nienor.

I like her too, but my most favorite female character is Morwen.

xMellrynxMaidenx · 12-27-2010, 01:20 AM

I think I've just found a new favorite...Daeron, the loremaster and minstrel to king Thingol. I guess it's just because he never could get the girl and I empathized with him, haha. Not to mention I also love music too.

Galadriel · 12-31-2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

I thought about some things recently, and I've read a few fanfics. And I realized that I have a new favourite character. One word: Nienor.

Just wondering...why Nienor?

11-09-2010, 06:05 PM	#125
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I see your point, Galadriel, but I think that the proper way to read it is backwards. I've talked to people who've read TH before LOTR, and neither of them got passed The Fellowship of the Ring. They say its just a repetition of TH, just with different characters and a little more detailed and a lot more complicated. I've read LOTR before TH, and I found the "repetition" quite all right, because I've read the more detailed version first and I already know what and where everything is. I think that LOTR is the summit of Tolkien's works. TH is very simple compared to it; The Sil is very good, but it's just too much information to put in a separate book - there has to be either a separation or a continuation if it would be written out the "proper way". Tolkien did that with Narn i Hin Hurin, but again, it can't be a separate book. Moreover, he'd probably have to make a separate book for every one of the 6 battles of Beleriand... My favourite character is probably Finrod, although I have many others. You can call me weird if you want to, but my favourite female character is Morwen, not Luthien. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-10-2010, 05:59 PM	#128
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I see what you mean, but I rather like Aragorn and Beren. I don't think much of their love life, but I like the characters otherwise. I mean, their "love life" is quite interesting at certain times, but by itself it's really a bore. I like the moment in Lothlorien when Aragorn gets all dreamy about Arwen, and I live the interesting things that Beren's love did (especially how he said goodbye to Luthien because he loved her). But I agree with you, Galadriel, that they are shallow when it comes to love. I find Eowyn's romance way more interesting. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-23-2010, 02:00 AM	#129
Almesiva Moonshadow Animated Skeleton Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Serbia Posts: 34	My favourite characters are definitly Melkor and Sauron... ...Do not ask me why...I simply seem to have a thing for bad guys... Last edited by Almesiva Moonshadow; 11-23-2010 at 02:04 AM.

11-24-2010, 02:49 PM	#130
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I have a thing for seriously evil people, but for some reason that doesn't apply to Tolkien's works. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-26-2010, 02:25 PM	#133
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I don't fancy jerks much. However, in LOTR, TH, The Sil, or Narn, I don't like any evil character. Well, you know, if you consider Turin a jerk, that doesn't apply either. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-24-2010, 08:36 PM	#136
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I sort of like Beren, but I liked him better before I read The Sil. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-25-2010, 10:22 AM	#139
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	But I like Earendil and Elwing. It's true, though, that all these humans marrying elves are just soooooo......... I don't really mind Tuor, except for the marriage part. His heart was turned to Idril, and hers was turned to him, and such was Tuor's favor of the King, that he permitted the wedding, etc etc. Such rubbish! I'd much prefer it if Tuor and Idril would run off just after the fall of Gondolin, it would be more real. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-26-2010, 02:09 PM	#142
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	I thought about some things recently, and I've read a few fanfics. And I realized that I have a new favourite character. One word: Nienor. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

12-27-2010, 01:20 AM	#144
xMellrynxMaidenx Wight Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Riding with the Grey Company Posts: 120	I think I've just found a new favorite...Daeron, the loremaster and minstrel to king Thingol. I guess it's just because he never could get the girl and I empathized with him, haha. Not to mention I also love music too. __________________ ~\|And all will turn, to silver glass. A light on the water, Grey ships pass, Into the West. \|~ "Few now remember them...yet still some go wandering, sons of forgotten kings walking in loneliness, guarding from evil things folks that are heedless."

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