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#81 |
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Nog, I think you can just decide the remaining rules and everyone will just be happy to roll with it.
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#82 |
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So here we are.
22 players. ![]() 1 Seer 1 Ranger 1 Hunter + 5 Infectors + 1 Innocent Child 1 Cobbler + 12 Innocent (healthy) Villagers Thinking behind this: Innocent Child and Cobbler kind of "cancel each other out" (in the end they can benefit either side but their purpose is to benefit opposite sides) That would leave a ratio of 5:20 aka. 1:4. Interpolate that and it means the same as 3 wolves in a 12 player game or 4 wolves in a 16 player game. That's a wee-little bit heavy ratio from the villagers POV, but then again the QT might actually help the innocents in the later stages of the game, so I'd say that's just the right ratio. I'm now going to check everything and then go randomizing the lists in my favorite random.org. -site. Whether it is true or whatever it means, I just love their description of what they do on their website: "The randomness comes from atmospheric noise, which for many purposes is better than the pseudo-random number algorithms typically used in computer programs". So you are being exposed to atmospheric noise! ![]()
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#83 |
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I have made yet some additions to the rules, basically victory conditions and rules for special roles (including the revelation of which characters are in which role).
It should be there now. Notify me if I have forgotten something. I thought it decent to notify everyone of their role, so I'll still write a message to the innocent (heatlhy) Villagers and start then dealing the PM's to everyone. So even the innocents will receive a personal PM of their role and some might get one already before the Night1 officially begins. Starting of Night1 is signalled by a N1 narration appearing to the Game Thread. See you all in-game in about 24 hours and 45 minutes! Those with special roles, do not hesitate to contact me if you have anything to ask.
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#84 |
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All the roles should be dealt now!
If you haven't gotten a PM from me, please do PM me back about it. It's Night1 now. So, Infectors, do start your scheming together. As you know full well, there will be no pick toNight, but get yourselves ready for the game. Seer: PM me your first dream at 8PM GMT/UTC tomorrow the latest. Hunter: you may give me a name you'll hunt already during the Night but there's no rush for it. I need one only before Day1 ends, so take your time. All others, try to sleep well. The troubles are ahead, not yet here and now. ![]()
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Gruesome Spectre
Join Date: Dec 2000
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A friendly reminder to all that Invisible Mode is strongly advised.
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Not sure if this has been said but I didn't see it reading over the rules post: is the Hunter logical? And can the Ranger self-protect or protect people twice in a row?
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It seems I haven't written that stuff to anyone else but the gifteds themselves. Let me elaborate those in a moment (just now in a bit of a hurry).
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#88 |
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Ok. I added the following rules to the Rules-Post.
- The Seer learns all the roles. - The Ranger can’t protect the same person two Nights in a row and can’t protect himself. - If the Hunter is targeted by Night he will fight and attack whomever he has chosen to hunt (so he's the "illogical hunter") – both will be turned into the QT in the morning. If the Hunter is voted to be quarantined at the end of a Day, he will take with him anyone he has chosen, whoever that is. NB: THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE HUNTER ROLE (My bad, I remembered the traditional role incorrectly.)
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#89 |
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Just wanted to share my weird feelings.
A couple of years ago I wouldn't have predicted we're playing Werewolf again, especially with this huge a Village. Then again I wouldn't have predicted a global pandemic that would derail the everyday life for all of us on this level either. But maybe it is exactly like this: when we face adversities, we find new and old ways to confirm our togetherness, and well, seek and find comfort with other people amidst agonies of many sorts. And all this reminds me of the quote by Mr. Martin Luther King Jr. “We may have all come on different ships, but we’re in the same boat now.” So let's all enjoy this boat ride we're starting together in a moment! Delve into the game, think, speak, communicate... Have fun with all the wonderful people sharing this adventure with you!
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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#91 |
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I've changed my mind about the QT. It will be open for discussion also during the Nights. Limiting the discussion there to Daytime felt quite artificial.
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Seconded, thank you Nog for starting a game.
I actually hope there’s enough interest and time for another one! Although here in the US, things are starting to open back up. I guess we’ll see what time allows and only enjoy this game going on in the present.
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I suggest we should have the discussion in this “Discussion Thread”, but whatever and where-ever. Let’s try to keep it in one Thread anyway.
I suggest this one.
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Laconic Loreman
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Never underestimate a final wolf, cornered and seeing no path to victory. Given there was no way to escape, figured it would be ok to skip the formality and what would have been anti-climatic waiting for the QT to confirm Brinn's dream (if I had killed her). So, decided to deprive you nasty villagers of your Innocent children and have NogMod end it on a final marvelous narration.
![]() Major kudos to Brinn on a fine game, when you figure the infectors played really well during the day turns. I'm sure there will be a lot of reveals of what went on "behind the scenes" and will post some of my messages here. Around Night 2 or 3 Lhuna asked what innocents were I going to ally myself with. I chose Lommy I feel I have a good read on and figured ordo from Day 1 (although now I'm going to have to avoid the punches and pots and pans *ducks*) and Brinn because I thought I could sell that G55 and Huey were messing with us with their QT votes. Which was the ultimate downfall, because there an infector was protecting the seer from the very beginning and Brinn's refusal to reveal, despite all the tricks we were throwing out there. Well done. The night that it was just Kath and myself, Kath had mentioned Brinn as possibly the seer as well as Greenie, but really none of us expected you to being the seer. And to Eonwe, for being a major pain in the neck. ![]() At one point we all had our stabs at who the seer was. Rikae and Kitanna were Lhuna and me Legate was for Huey Lalaith was me (thinking she caught my slip and earlier her frustration at those discussing went when Kit revealed) Pitch was the Ka Shasta was Kath's "head." Her gut said Brinn or Greenie Now I have the QT to read and keep me entertained for days as I try to figure out how the heck was I considered/thought to be the seer. ![]()
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Just first thoughts: a crazy and wonderful game everyone!
That was worthy of a "Return of the Werewolf to the 'Downs"! ![]()
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Gruesome Spectre
Join Date: Dec 2000
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An absolutely amazing game; well-plotted, and very well attended.
The wolves and Gifteds, from my perspective, did a good job hiding. As usual, I wasn't right about a great deal, but it's still always a good time.
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Wight of the Old Forest
Join Date: Dec 2008
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*reads narration*
... ... ... ... ... *applauds*
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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FWIW I called Borowolf and Ordo Son of Bjarne yesterDay on nothing but gut feeling, so this is quite satisfying. And Eönwë: Sorry!
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#101 |
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
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It was an amazing game, absolutely crazy, so many of us innocents were wrong so many times but still we won because the wolves were equally bad at spotting the seer... great.
![]() Sally, I'm so sorry. But the hunter really IS more fun when she gets to kill somebody, whatever the consequences. ![]() Brinn, thanks again for saving the game for us, also amazing job saying hidden. To be picked on by the dead thread like that and still survive without revealing! Boro, well *threateningly waves the pots and pans* I might be really mad but I am not because I figured it had to be you after Brinn revealed - you didn't really succeed in feigning enthusiasm nor had you replied anything reassuring to my speculations on your innocence the Day before, and besides I was convinced Rune and Lottie were innocent. I said I won't forgive you if you're a wolf, but given that you lost and we won, I'm feeling magnanimous so I might. ![]() Now I really want to read the QT but - as most of you probably know - I live with Legate and he has been constantly laughing aloud while reading the thread (while obviously never telling me what's so funny), so I'm a little terrified...
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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Nog, the narrations have been spectacular throughout, and this was a perfect endnote.
Brinn - you were incredible! I know I remember a few QT-wolf 'haha what if Brinn is the Seer' moments, but I don't think I ever seriously suspected you. That was a virtuoso performance. (But - arrrgh! If I'd only voted the other way on Day 1, this would have been a totally different game!) Team Infector - sorry for dying on you so soon! ![]() The best part of the game, at least from my side, was the day or two when the QT was emphatically convinced BoroWolf was the Seer... ![]() I know Team Wolf have planned all along to release our night-chats; Boro, as Last Wolf Standing are you okay with your chat being published? I should be able to get stable versions of both up pretty quickly. Great game, everyone! Even if I spent half of it with the Cutiennocents studiously ignoring me. ![]() hS |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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![]() But it fit well with the mental image I had from start, that Boro was up to something strange. I am at least happy that I didn't make it up - but that it probably in fact meant that he was a Wolf. But amazingly played, Boro, and I said elsewhere, amazingly played, Brinn! And well everyone - it's been great to once again meet with y'all in such a cozy setting. (Twice as much for my buddies in the QT.) For myself, I am probably the most interested in the Wolves' thought processes and logic - not the least the entire Boro-feat, how did they come up with it, what were their objectives, and so on... I also urge everyone who remained alive to the end to at least skim through the Cuties thread. It was hilarious at times, but you will also get an insight into some of our inner thoughts, so we don't repeat ourselves here...
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#105 |
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I have posted an epilogue to the Game Thread where you can find out the destinies of all those who were infected by Morgoth's spell or the disease they infected - aka. were moved into the QT.
It is all a result of an elaborate system I deviced and used some dice to play out. A nice little "after-game" for me. It turned out quite easy to write out, so the results seem to make sense. Well, had the results been different it would have been relatively easy to tell them some other way to make sense. So it wasn't that disasterous in the end, from the POV of the History of Middle-Earth, even if it at times looked like it. ![]()
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Well, I can certainly say that for myself!
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Probably my favorite message in Night 2's planning. I was so paranoid of Rikae that I thought they were obviously contradicting everything I posted, but weren't trying to point suspicion towards me. To stay 'hidden' as a seer and get more dreams in:
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And sort of my "Night 1 strategizing"...which happened to be quite different from what I was hoping to achieve in this game. I was planning on being the 1st wolf to go down. Alas, again the dead threads allude me: Quote:
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Brinn and Boro, hats off to both of you for some very clever gameplay.
I must know: Brinn, was your "bearing gifts" remark deliberate? Why did you choose your dreams? Deeetails! ![]() Boro: so all that "in-character" "nightmares" " unconscious" talk & back and forth with G55 ... don't know if you've looked at the dead thread but I was dying to know if it was a hint, a bluff, a .double bluff, or pure nonsense! There was a ridiculous amount of agonizing in the dead thread about how to protect Boro while not messing up his plan, and as it happened, trusting him to protect himself was the right move e for the wrong reasons. And G55 and I agreed to vote Brinn twice for opposite reasons. Heh. What an epic game! Thank you so much Nog for a great setup and wonderful narrations! Last edited by Rikae; 05-18-2020 at 03:50 PM. |
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Well, you're extra ordinary then.
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I have skimmed through a few pages of the quarantine thread, and so far this is my favourite quotation.
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Such fun! So well played everyone! Nogs, what a wonderful concept and such great write-ups. Big hearts all round....really loved this game.
At the beginning of this game I said I was good at spotting innocents and hopeless at spotting wolves. How true, sadly that turned out to be. My sure-fire wolves were Legate, and then Eonwe. All wrong. My sure-fire innocents were Greenie, Lottie, Kit, Rune, Pitch. All good. So basically I wouldn't know a wolf if I fell over it and it bit me on the ankle.
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Aww, Boro, rude! Leave the poor innocent child alone!
![]() Nog, this was such an incredible game! Everything from the actual gameplay to the narrations were phenomenal. And great job, everyone else, for making this such an exciting and gripping game to play! I'm looking forward to reading through the QT for a whole new perspective on what was going on. ![]()
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The Werewolf's Companion
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Also, I don't know where I got this, but I thought the Cuties knew who I was, and I was 100% expecting them to vote for me when G55 and Huin had majority, so that the wolves could Night kill me. I was so shocked when it was Brinn instead. Now that I've looked at the thread, I realize they didn't know, and I was worried about nothing the whole time.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Crossed with Boro ... me, seerish? Well, I guess getting killed as seerish is the best an ordo can hope for, but I reacted to Boro the way I did Day 1 because I was thinking vaguely " possible baddie, possible seer, just nudge him slightly and see how he reacts" Guess that kinda worked? :Not how I wanted!
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Ha! I knew it! I bloody knew it! Since Day 1!
![]() ![]() Will catch up to the discussion a bit later from my computer. For now, thank you for at least taking the Child down and for a wonderful climax! And thank you Nog for an awesome game!
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Since in-narration they're my daughter I feel as if I have to smooth this over, but eh I was already dead and like to think old Indor went out with a smirk.
![]() Again, thank you Nog for hosting and narrating such an awesome game. I don't think I've ever played a game as enjoyably chaotic and welcoming at the same time.
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Also......there was *zero* wolf-on-wolf in the Huin bandwagon.
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Ah thank you Lottie for pointing this out, now I at least feel vindicated about something. ![]()
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Hauntress of the Havens
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Boro, you are insane and I love you. That is all.
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