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01-26-2011, 03:59 PM | #82 | |
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What I was trying to say about Ang and Boro is the following: Ang probably wouldn't have made the suggestions on double-lynches or speculations about wolves willing to send one of them to Mandos if he was a wolf. Too attention-grabbing and wrong. Boro says he has a Twitter-impression on my posts, I have an Fb-impression on him. It's not enough for me to vote for him toDay, but I'll be watching. Sorry. (I hate using a laptop with no mouse as it tends to do all kinds of pickings of it's own...)
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Okay then... Yeah, that changes everything I'd say. Is the Dead-dream always about the Dead as well? It is, isn't it? Well, so much for that then. If that's the case, then as usual the Wolves will kill the Seer on the very first Night if given the chance. BUT- what is different is that it should probably be much tougher to spot the Seer in the early going as there really isn't any need for him to leave clues, as he can always reveal after death so long as a Dead-Living transfer player is still alive to bring his dreams back. Should the Lovers and Glorfy be downed early, at that point I think the Seer would have little choice but to semi-out himself. All right- off to work now! But I should be able to keep tabs a bit and post while at work. We'll see.
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Okay, so upon going through all people, I also made a list... but not sure if it is of much help in most cases. Most people have been either not saying much or not being around at all. I assume once I go to sleep, the Americans will come out of their hideouts, but well...
Shasta - not much of an info from the beginning banter-posts, so no idea Nogrod - looks sort of like a classic Nogrod, for now, no special feelings of guiltiness nor innocence; I agree with him about Ang, though - of course unless he's saying it to support a fellow, then again, why would he do it already so soon in the game... Aganzir - active, looks more like her innocent self (after the last game, I am becoming sort of more confident about trusting her... so hope it doesn't turn around!) Glirdan - was he around at all? A Little Green - ditto elronds_daughter - not much info, is there.. Mänwe - basically popping in and not saying anything, but being well familiar with lynching him on Day 1s by my own hands, I am NOT going to do it toDay - there's been basically nothing he said, anyway Nerwen - posted sort of in a typical Nerwen-y way, so I cannot say anything one way or the other Loslote - like I said earlier, I'm getting very Cobblerish vibes from her. Though not sure if I want to vote her. Main reasons would be these: first, if she is a Cobbler, then I would really prefer to vote somebody who reeks more of Wolf. Lynching Cobblers in this game actually does not help much, quite the opposite, so here you go. And then, I am not sure when it was the last time when she ended up being voted for quite early, but I think it's been quite recently and that it comes pretty often. So I am sort of not wanting to do that lest I have really good reasons to. Which I don't, and see above. Wilwa - no word from her Legate - that's me Lommy - that's her. Anyway, I think there is actually something rather awkward about Lommy, her comments don't seem like that of her usual self. She had once called me "a hog on laughing gas" (when I was innocent), so I think it's not unfair if I call her in return "running like a headless chicken", because that's exactly what it seems like. Still, wait to see what more comes out of her. Nessa - her only post gives me a sort of "???" vibes, but nothing more than that. Again, too little info. Blind Guardian - ? satansaloser2005 - not much of an idea either the phantom - his posts, after the initial nothing, actually suddenly started to be surprisingly substantial (which I would not have expected from him on Day 1) - and make me think fairly enough of him Boromir88 - well of the "louder" players he is probably the only one who casts some shadow, in my opinion, his sudden "crusade against pessimism" and all that seems a bit like programmed to me, but maybe it just seems to me. But curious. Mithalwen - given how much she is around, she had said very little. Sort of under the radar. I am watching her. Anguirel - like I have said, not much experience with him; he seems active, but that of course can mean anything. Not probably voting him toDay, though - there are lots of other people who are not at least equally active. Active means that you can read something about him, so I might just as well go for somebody who is not as active. Fea - not around, I think? So then it comes down to, whom should I vote? One thing is, I can imagine the WWs now being more among the less talkative. Other thing is, that could be like voting randomly for one among several people, which I really dislike. I think this far I haven't ever voted randomly. So... yes, I will probably vote somebody of the quieter part, but who is at least a bit unsettling, or something. That could be for example Mith, though... bah. Well, okay, there will probably be thousands of other votes anyway. *scratches head* The biggest problem is anyway that we are not going to know... but what can we do. Patience, we must learn! EDIT: x-ed with Mith, phantom, Nog and Agan
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Which actually brings me to a point of actually suggesting quite openly something to everyone as howe to play. Innocents: do not make false revelations! Sometimes innocents can make false revelations to try to protect someone they think is a gifted - or to some other ends - but in this game that would be foolish. If we could count on no innocents making a false-reveal we could at least narrow down the possibilities with all the influxing revelations that those doing it are either gifteds (and the ones they say they are), cobblers or wolves. EDIT: X'd with Leg & Green
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Hmm. I seriously need some sleep soon, I'll vote in a while. My vote will go either for a submarine (though obviously not someone who hasn't been around) or Lommy, who I feel the worst about at the moment. I'm feeling more or less okay with Agan (gasp! I wonder how long it will take for me to change my mind on this one), Lottie (I didn't catch anything too cobblerish in her posts, looked more like overdone regular banter to me), and Phantom. Of the rest - most of them are making my head hurt. Sally is slightly fishy but I think I always call her that. Legate is wishy-washy but I know I always call him that.
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01-26-2011, 04:55 PM | #92 |
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Not under the radar more like a duck doing a lot of work under the surface. Doing a very whizzy spreadsheet. That confirms my earlier stated mistrust of lists...
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Well, now Mith actually starts talking, so... I wonder. Anyway, I should go to sleep soon - out of the quieter ones, apart from Mith I might possibly go for Nessa, but not sure...
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Not to mention that a Seer could very well reveal outright, in which case we'd know all of his dreams EXCEPT the one he has the night he is killed, which could be passed back up to the Living via the proposed method (whoever receives the Dead-bonus the next day was the person the Seer dreamed as he died, UNLESS the Dead repeat a bonus for someone in which case the Seer found a Wolf his final night). In fact the Seer could even announce his intended dream before each night in case he is killed, yes? And if the following day the Dead do NOT give that person an extra vote, we know that individual is guilty. Surely the plan is at least a bit useful in that situation, yes?
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01-26-2011, 05:05 PM | #96 | |
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Sorry, still reading, but that caught my eye and now I'm going to have to challenge Manwe to a duel.
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01-26-2011, 05:09 PM | #98 | |
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Hm, Agan is actually right... the thoughts she cites of Nog are most peculiar... although he is known for sometimes coming up with schemes overcombined up to the point of being Wolf-y... but yea, given all that... I am not going to vote him now, but watching for the time being...
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01-26-2011, 05:14 PM | #100 |
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Well past bed-time for me. I'm going to go with
++ Lommy since she's the best lead I have. Usually I never suspect her and she's never evil. This time, on the other hand, she seems quite off to me. Nervous, playing easily, and over-emphasizing stuff (the cobbler paranoia, for example).
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01-26-2011, 05:17 PM | #101 |
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Wonder what? That I would somehow anticipate that you would find me suspicious and "start talking" and hour or so before you would claim that I was being quiet? Ludicrous. I have been around because I now have a computer and no job as opposed to a job and no computer. There has just been more going on later as a quick glance at distribition of posts over time would show. This says a lot more about you than me.
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01-26-2011, 05:26 PM | #102 |
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I'm positively stumped about who to vote. Everyone seems so ambiguous!
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Alright, after a quick read, the two I find most off are...
Phantom (surprise surprise) and Nogrod. Both seem, to me, to be trying to tell the wolves/cobblers what to do - in Phantom's case, it looks more like a Cobbler talking to the wolves and trusting to his reputation to not get him lynched. That's what I've got. I'll do a more in-depth readthrough now.
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Hrmmmphh. Seems I've missed a lot so far toDay, though none of it terribly conclusive. Lots of lengthy posts, though...
(As an aside, I probably should have informed everyone that when Days fall on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, I won't be around at all until a few hours from DL...methinks I am trying to cram too much into my last semester of school...) Anyhow. Most unhappy with not having a very good read on anybody yet. Legate, Nog, and Agan are of course posting their usual tomes. Lommy seems a little more...confused...than usual. (Though who am I to talk about "usual", this being only my third game ever...) phantom is on my good side at the moment. Despite the incessant chatter (joke), he seems to be thinking things through in a more, erm, down-to-earth fashion than other tome-writers (sorry, Legate and Co.). Right. Well. Those are my limited observations for the moment. I'll be back in a while to vote. This is going to be a very interesting game.... EDIT: x'ed with Shasta (how did I forget about him???) and Nessa.
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I approve of Nog and phantom advising the gifteds - at least in the sense that it's typical of them. Yeah the gifteds are usually capable of thinking things through themselves, but saying something just to be on the safe side shouldn't hurt anyone.
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Okay, so, I believe I've heard multiple people talk about baddies messing things up in Dead-Thread. Is it a good idea then to avoid lynching suspected Cobblers? Because really Cobblers are the only Baddies that can do damage over time in Dead-Thread, because identities of Wolves can be checked by the dead. If we do our best to keep Cobblers alive, Goodies will own Dead-Land with total authority.
If the Wolves want to screw things up in Dead-Land, make them flush a kill on a Cobbler. The obvious drawback is if we adopt this plan and all three Cobblers act Cobblerish and stay alive and, IF we fail to lynch Wolves early on, the Baddies can clinch victory a couple days before they normally could. But really that would assume that every little thing went wrong, yes? So.... long live the Cobblers?
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I don't want to bring in any old discussions and debates, but I must say Mith looks more like an innocent, because of her response to Legate.
A short list of my feelings before the voting (short on explanations as I don't have time to write any longer analysis). Innocent: Aganzir - Good posting, innocent vibes, feels like she's trying to find the answers that are for the benefit of the village. Innocentish: the phantom - Generally makes good points a wolf might not wish to make, it's just that a few of them do not let me pick him into category above. Anguirel - Seems getting the idea of our good and makes posts a wolf-Ang probably wouldn't. Mith - For her comment on Legate (and for that familiar annoyance against anything I say... if she were a wolf she would be nicer to me ). Could go either way: Legate - Seems too happy to jump on some things I do disagree, but on the other hand hasn't said or done anything really suspicious. Lommy - Basically seems to have the hang of it but has the air of avoiding things or, well, what some others have said, over-stating things. Smething says I should not trust her but on the other hand I find nothing clear-cut wrong. Nerwen - Like someone said before: both clearly up to the situation but still mainly just bantering (was online only relatively early on the Day so that might be understandable). Slightly worried: Boro - the way he jumps on someone (yes, me) trying to turn the discussion on a more fruitful ground by saying it's "spinning things for my purposes" (so you should read they are bad) and after being questioned about that by some others, changing his point into me being a pessimist (which wasn't the point of my message) and thus suspicious? Odd, from him. Of others I have not much to say. But will probably vote for one of them others. Everyone from the classes I've done here will probably be readable in a way or another. In a few minutes something. Then vote. Then to bed. EDIT: X'd from Mith onwards.
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As for the quiet players... there is often a reluctance to lynch the quiet players in the first instance they often get the benefit of the doubt which a wolf might take advantage of. A gifted player might not to want to draw attention to themselves either but they of course wouldn't want to be so inconspicuous that they made themselves a night target for the wolves (a death that would provide no clues to the village). Of course the fact that death isn't quite the end changes the dynamic.
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01-26-2011, 05:59 PM | #111 |
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Shasta- that only applies to difficult to spot strategies, or ploys that cease to function once voiced. Plans that require the adoption of the village (like my Seer dream pass-along) must be voiced to serve any purpose.
You'll recall that in the past I have quite openly declared certain ploys, and pointed out that doing so would actually make them more effective (for instance, when I was attempting to bait the Wolves into killing me, and went so far as to say so). (EDIT: Usually when I've been irritated in the past with people talking about strategies, it's specifically because I'm doing something that won't work with too much attention and people are pointing to it for no clear reason.)
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I have to head off to rehearsal and won't be back before deadline - it's likely to run late.
++Nogrod I thought about voting Phantom, but his defense seemed reasonable enough - whereas Nogrod just seemed to latch on and say "Yeah, what he said!"
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Shasta - first overabundant banter, then being totally wrong... he's a clever man so he can't be just erring here?
Glirdan - only a few early banters... A Little Green - not too much participation but has posted on substance unlike some others on this list. elronds_daughter - one post, puzzlingly non-commitant looking at the fact that she actually said something. Mänwe - one post, one sentence, saying nothing. Loslote - overdoing the banter... Nessa - Not so bad Mith let's us understand, if she meant that the wolves don't know whether they killed a gifted, an ordo or a cobbler, but quite minimal contributions to say it minimalistically. Sally - posted when there was actually discussion going on but only bantered (except suspecting Lottie for bantering with Shasta - why not the other way around?). Fea one post now, neutralish. No posts so far, no vote from me on D1 Blind Guardian Wilwa In a game where we need to read everything from what others say without a chance to check afterwards for sure, I do think lynching the quieter ones - those not giving up anything - is a better choice. Later on when we have some real feelings / arguments of those who meddle with the game a lot more, or have a chance there will be some info coming from Mandos, then we should start lynching the more in the middle of the things -players. So my vote is going to someone on the list above. A cigarette to think about it and then to sleep. EDIT X'd with a few... heh seemingly also Shasta's vote...
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01-26-2011, 06:29 PM | #118 | ||
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I'm back everyone, I've been at work all day and then sleeping so you know, not a lot of time to do....well...anything really. Am in the middle of reading everything to date and just want to throw a few things out.
Ang with all his talk of double lynching has me worried. Too bold to be a wolf, but still subtle enough to be a Cobbler. The wording of his second point in post 58 (same post as his double lynch idea) has me worried Quote:
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I will not lie though, I don't see people's "Boro's a cobbler" theory at all....However, I'm not really buying his schpeal on Nog being a Cobbler too. Okay, back to reading the rest (I'm half way through page 2 right now) and will be back to post again.
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01-26-2011, 06:32 PM | #119 | |
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But of course a Gifted could use that as cover too, naturally. In the end it would depend upon the Seer nabbing one of the Wolves and using affiliations and such from the known Wolf to point to the others (particularly if they are Cobbler-acting), seeing as Cobbler-Wolf links are going to be rather difficult to forge (or at least we hope so). Meh... but that's a lot of supposing and might-happen nonsense... Perhaps there is no correct answer on the Cobblers (dead or alive)? Just sit back and hope that they are Night-killed rather than lynched, and do whatever possible to contribute to that.
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01-26-2011, 06:42 PM | #120 |
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Lommy ++ Manwe Legate ++ Nessa Green ++ Lommy Shasta ++ Nog
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