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10-19-2005, 07:44 PM | #81 |
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stats, figures, mumbo-jumbo
YesterDAY's votes, in order:
Wilwarin: tar-ancalime Holbytlass: Glirdan Sleepy Ranger: Glirdan sotty: tar-ancalime Kitanna: Sleepy Ranger Eonwe: Wilwarin Gurthang: DEATH Bergil: DEATH DEATH: Glirdan Rune: DEATH (WaynetheGoblin's vote for DEATH didn't count) Received votes: tar-ancalime (2) Glirdan (3) Sleepy Ranger (1) Wilwarin (1) DEATH (3(4, with Wayne's)) Didn't receive votes: Hiriel THE Ka Kitanna Holbytlass Gurthang Rune Bergil Eonwe sotty WaynetheGoblin Didn't vote: tar-ancalime, Hiriel, Glirdan, THE Ka Reasons for not voting: tar-ancalime: pure stupidity (miscalculated the deadline) Hiriel: missed the deadline Glirdan: ??? THE Ka: ??? With so many abstentions, I'm tempted to think that at least one wolf didn't vote. Good way to stay under the radar, not leave a trail, eh? Using that theory, either Hiriel or THE Ka is a wolf. I have no other reason to suspect either one of them, so I'm not ready yet to speculate beyond that.
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Gurthang? Oh dear, must go back a read all he had said. In the meantime though. After the double lynching yesterday I went back to check out how everyone voted and this is what I came up with.
Wilwa- tar-ancalime Holby- Glirdan Sleepy Ranger- Glirdan (2) Sotty- Tar-ancalime (2) Me- Sleepy Ranger Eonwe- Wilwa Gurthang- Márcolië Lamen Bergil- Marcolie Laman (2) Wayne- Marcolie Laman (3) Marcolie Laman- Glirdan (3) Rune- Marcolie Laman (4) I’m supposing since Wayne did not put his vote in the proper format it did not count. So let’s see here. Sleepy, Bergil, and sotty all voted at a time that caused a tie. DEATH came in and broke the first round of ties with her vote for Glirdan, but then Rune came in later and retied the votes for DEATH and Glirdan, thus sealing their fates. Now what can we gather from this. At least one wolf is hiding among those that caused a tie. Rune~ Voted late (only about ten minutes before day was about to end) Quote:
Now here is a loose theory I have about Sleepy Ranger and sotty. They’re both wolves. They decided on night one that they would try to get a double lynching going by voting for two people who had already gotten a vote. Sleepy Ranger voted first and not long after sotty voted. They didn’t really vote early and they didn’t vote too late. So there was still time for someone to break the tie. That sort of puts a dent in my theory. So, this isn’t an incredibly good theory, but I think there is a possibility it could be true. Now this loose little theory can also work if Bergil is thrown into the mix. He too voted to make a tie…a three way tie. Though the chances of all three being wolves is slim. All wolves voting to make ties seems very bold to me on day one. But I will be watching all three very carefully from now on. Onto Wayne. It appears his vote did not count. (unless there was a post I missed somewhere bringing Glirdan up to four votes) But judging by the time and who he voted for I am more inclined to find him innocent. Wayne voted at a time when DEATH, tar-ancalime, and Glirdan were all tied. He could easily have voted for Wilwa or Sleepy Ranger to bring it up to a four person tie. Though a four person tie would not have counted, but a tie is a tie in my book. Instead Wayne cast a vote for DEATH, bringing her out of the tie and into the lead. Now that not the best of grounds to find him innocent on, but I will move him lower on my list of suspects because of it. At least for today. Yesterday I suspected these five people above everyone else: DEATH, Sleepy Ranger, Glirdan, Tar, and Gurthang Three people out of that are now proven innocent. As for tar and Sleepy Ranger I will watch them both very carefully. In order I suspect these people: 1)Rune 2)Sleepy Ranger and Sotty 3)And a distant third of Bergil Tar-ancalime is far down on that list…at least for now. I also think there is a good chance our third wolf did not vote yesterday.
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Here comes a double post!
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Now onto what I gathered from Gurthang. Post #6 Gurthang throw out DEATH and Wayne as suspects. Clearly just baseless accussations based on previous games and occupations. Not much to be gained there. Post #14 he comments on Glirdan's Eonwe trust. Is the first to bring up the odds being against Eonwe to be a wolf two times in a row. Also says wolves will stay away from being too loud or too quiet. Post #16 he calls out tar on her plan of "refraining to accuse innocents". He encourages everyone to "let the accusations and defenses fly". Post #22 calls out tar again on her jumpiness and flip-flopping. Suggests a possible Eonwe/Tar wolf strategy. Says though it is probably unlikely. Post #34 Not much in this post. Talks about Eonwe's chances of being a wolf again. Responds to SR's problems with random, baseless accussations, saying it is a good way to start day one. Post #37 continues to defend (if that be the right word) his reasons for suspecting Eonwe less. Post #47 Asks for reasons from Rune and Glirdan why they suspect who they do. Mentions Glirdan and Tar as suspects. Also mentions DEATH but not in an accussing way. Post #61 votes for DEATH. So what can we gather from this? Well, one way to look at it is that the wolves killed Gurthang because he was no one near getting one of them and they wanted to frame up someone else. If that is the case they were trying to fram up tar or possibly Eonwe because those two Gurthang mentioned most. Or Gurthang was hitting close to home. Which again would point to tar and Eonwe. And they figured they could fake out the village and claim a frame up. I think both theories are equally likely.
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10-19-2005, 09:14 PM | #84 | |
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A mighty interesting theory you have there Kitanna and I won't just shoot it out of the water because you suggested me as a wolf. The best I can do is lay out the reasons why I did vote for Tar-ancalime in the end.
Before I casted my vote I made a post (number 42) talking about my suspicions for DEATH and at that time I was pretty sure I was going to vote for her. When I came to re-read the thread and my notes, I found that I had more points about Tar-ancalime. with it being the first day, they weren't particularly strong points but I deiced to go with the more evidence I had. As for Sleepy and myself voting around the same time producing a tie, well I don't know what to say about that but unfortunate timing. Like you said there is a flaw in this theory because we both voted early enough for others to come along and break the two way tie. I can't speak for Sleepy as he didn't not list his reasons as to why he voted the way he did, but I was just acting on what I found in the thread and voting at a time I was ready to do so. Quote:
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10-19-2005, 09:22 PM | #85 | |
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Herm. Ok! Now on the proper time.
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Will look at posts since Gurthang's death in depth first chance I get tomorrow. Alas, but reading the Comedy of Errors (hopefully won't discribe this village's voting pattern) must come first.
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10-19-2005, 09:29 PM | #86 | |||
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This is my one and only valuable reason: I was asking both you and AOR about specific guildlines that I had not known about, so I could clear up anything when I was playing further on. In layman's terms, I'm as dumb as a doornail when it comes to this game and I wanted to at least avoid asking annoying questions every five minutes, and thus complicating the game. Plus, I thought I would have enough time to study the evidence, ponder it philosophically and delcare my vote after school activities. I was wrong, and forgot to count three hours ahead of mine own. Sorry for this absence, I have the rest of the week off so, I'll be able to contribute as best as I can. ----------------- Okay, on to werewolf business. Let's see, our Gurthang died. I give my simpathy, but on to the evidence! Quote:
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10-20-2005, 01:18 AM | #87 |
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Some more thoughts:
I agree with Kitanna's point about Rune's vote being worth discussing, but for a slightly different reason. At the time Rune voted, it was not yet clear that WaynetheGoblin's vote for DEATH was not going to count. If we include his vote in the tally at the time of Rune's voting, there was already a majority for DEATH. Therefore Rune, by voting for the person who's already got the most votes, is making a very safe move. He couldn't have known that there would be so many abstentions, so he would have had to consider that four others would be voting after him. Voting to create a tie (i.e. a wolf engineering a double lynching, as Kitanna implies) just shouldn't have worked. (Yes, even though Rune could have reasonably assumed that DEATH would vote as she did, the only way she could vote to possibly save herself--there still should have been several more votes coming.) But voting for the person who's already got a majority, when there are still 4 voters presumably to come and "cover his tracks," is a "safe" move, an "unobtrusive" move, one which could point either to a wolf hiding in the crowd, or to an unsure villager not wanting to cast any new suspicions. HOWEVER, as I noted above, Rune could have reasonably assumed that DEATH would vote for Glirdan as she did. Therefore, it would have been DEATH's vote that created the tie if WaynetheGoblin's vote had counted, and Rune's vote would have acted as a tiebreaker to lynch DEATH instead of Glirdan. Those two votes coming at the same instant as they did really does confuse the matter of who assumed what... All this, which I hope isn't too tortuous, is to say that I think Rune's vote, coupled with his comment pointed out above by Kitanna (that he suspected Glirdan and possibly me more than DEATH), was interesting, important, and noteworthy. This is NOT to say that I've got any real suspicions of Rune, though--my reasoning only works IF Rune thought Wayne's vote counted, IF Rune thought the abstainers were about to vote at the last minute, IF Rune assumed correctly that DEATH would vote for Glirdan, and IF I haven't made any logical errors. Just throwing out ideas. I will have to vote very early toDAY due to non-Tadfield constraints on my schedule, so I'm hoping to see some more discussion within the next few hours.
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10-20-2005, 02:47 AM | #88 |
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All right, I've got to take a deep breath and vote...on very little information.
The only thing I can even guess at is that, as I said before, a wolf abstained from voting yesterday. That means that either Hiriel or THE Ka is a suspect. Simply because Hiriel's post today made more sense to me than THE Ka's (which seemed to obscure things rather than clarify them), I'm tempted to vote for THE Ka. But then again, who knows? I know that anything I do right now is very flimsy. So... ++THE Ka May Eru have mercy on my soul!
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10-20-2005, 03:30 AM | #89 | |||||||
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Oh My!
Oh my! It seems people are throwing suspicion my way. I'll try clearing some things up
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Not pointing out blame? Oh my, you seem to have mis-understood me. I said accuse would be a better word than blame and I said that we shouldn't randomly throw around blame... As in- X- I bet Y is the wolf.[/b] (Thats what I'm against, I mean just saying it out. Sure if you suspect somebody but can't really put your finger on it then by all means go ahead and say I find this person suspicious but if you're going to go all out and BLAME somebody without any reason thats what I'm against.) Moving on- Quote:
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As for band-waggoning, now thats just silly... I believe I was the third person to vote and how would 2 votes start a band-wagon? If I did want to get somebody band-waggoned I'd have stated reasons to prove their guilt rather than just going with what some others (you included) said. I needed to vote and at the time I felt Glirdan was a wolf. Quote:
Hopefully that clears somethings up. I'm a bit busy with athletics today so I won't have time to go through much but I believe there may be something to find in 3 pages of posts.
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10-20-2005, 03:43 AM | #90 |
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Huh?
Sorry for the double-post but I didn't want to edit the one above.
tar's vote for THE Ka seems to have come out of the blue... I'd like to point Kitanna in tar's direction because she seems to dis-like people who vote for reasons others have stated. </sarcasm> Ahem but seriously does anybody else find tar's vote disturbing? I mean it is rather early in the day and we don't really have much on Ka except for her not posting. I'll be keeping an eye on tar from now on. I apologize if you find my comment offensive Kitanna. It serves no meaning except to perhaps give someone a laugh
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10-20-2005, 05:01 AM | #91 |
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i don't really find it taht weird, as of now. maybe it will chance as time moves on and the evidence mounts, if you kow waht i mean. Tar is certainly on the List, but quite a few people are, as far as im conserned.
just checking in, im be back on in like an hour or two...
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10-20-2005, 05:18 AM | #92 |
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Well tar vote is strange. He is now higher on my suspect list. Also poor poor gurthang he didnt stand a chanch.
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10-20-2005, 08:15 AM | #93 | |
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No, may Berkelley have mercy on your soul... I did not vote the other day because of time differences, and that i'm stupid. I live (obviously) in the Pacific Time Zone and I completely forgot to count three hours ahead. Instead, I was greeted by a thread saying, 'IT IS NOW NIGHT', so of course I could not vote. Another reason is that i'm stupid, and still did not grasp this game, thus I had to send messages to AbercrombieOfRohan asking about things such as votes, where do I vote, when do I vote, ect... Yes, I was that mindless the otherday about this game. Now, thankfully I do know how to play and am gathering facts for my final vote. Sincerely, ~ Ka P.S. If you are still quite confused, I would more than happy to send you originals of my messages, though I believe you may have to ask permission from AOR before doing so, since they were the other person in correspondence. Hope this helps.
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Now to bring up what tar-ancalime said about Rune and his vote. At the time Rune voted DEATH had given a list of votes so far, excluding Wayne's. Now of course DEATH was not the mod, but also Wayne's vote could of course been overlooked. So assuming Rune was going off of DEATH's list then he would have seen the oppurtunity of bringing about a tie. Of course that is unlikey, but there is also the possibility of him realizing Wayne's vote would not be counted due to its format. Quote:
But also tar-ancalime, I find your vote for THE Ka odd...I do not see a huge problem with voting so early. Sometimes life just gets in the way. But the fact you would vote for Ka because of her "obscuring things" is unsettling. You too missed the vote yesterday for a miscalulation of time which is what happened to Ka. One way for me to look at your reasons is that you want to throw attention off yourself because you also did not vote and some still suspect you from yesterday. Or you are at a lose for who to vote for so you picked off the list of those who did not vote. In the next hour or so I am going to have to cast a vote because I will be gone when day ends. So do not think ill of me because of that.
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10-20-2005, 09:27 AM | #95 |
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let me see. there seems to be allot of people not doing allot of talking. taht would be weird, but people are prolly on different time zones. all the same, i don't like silence from anyone. becuse if you don't say anything, nothing can be held against you. perfect wolf stratagy, in my book. (nothing except not saying anything, that is )
ok my List breaks down as follows. THE Ka: a wolf would be better prepared to vote, talk, expain, etc. and she gave some real life reasoning. if that stuffs not true, you are the base master of treachery. so im willing to let her off. Tar-ancalime: seems a bit suspicious. kind of freaked out yesterday. but that happens to newcomers to werewolf infested villages. nothing really. Wilwarin: i'd like to hear some more from you. but i don't know waht timezone you are, so you may have very good reasons for being silent for long periods of time. i guess silence is kind of relative, because im silent to you for long periods of time, possibley. anyway.... Sleepy Ranger: i don't konwwww. i hope he isn't a wolf. he hasn't given me any reason to think so, but all the same, i watching you.... Holbytlass: i'd like to hear more from you. but the same stuff as i said about wilwarin appies here, too. Eonwe: the only one im sure of. there seems to be allot taht we can gleen from the voting records. but not i, i must go to class...
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10-20-2005, 10:38 AM | #96 |
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A bit redundent, but we all like to see things our own way. BTW, I was taught this by a lovely chap selling saucepans....
Wilwarin-->Tar-Ancalime (tar-1) Holby-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-1) SleepyRanger-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-2) Sotty-->Tar-ancalime (tar-2, glir-2) Kittanna-->Sleepy Ranger (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1) Eonwe-->Wilwarin (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1) Gurthang-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2 sleep-1, wil-1, marc-1) Bergil-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2) Wayne-->Marcolie (doesn't count) Marcolie-->Glirdan (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2) Rune-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-3) no vote: Glirdan, Tar-ancolime, Hiriel, The Ka First to bandwagon on Glirdan (I do consider the second vote bandwaggoning, but not the most suspicious) is Sleepy Ranger, what makes it somewhat suspicious is he didn't speak of suspicions against Glirdan or anyone outright. Marcolie did band on Glirdan, but that was to save herself and really it's a moot point cause she's dead. First to bandwaggon on Tar is Sotty. He did voice suspicion against Tar so not that suspicios to me. First to band on Marcolie is Bergil, never spoke of suspicions against her, only half-heartedly names three others. QUOTE: I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone'. What is the most interesting, with his vote, he made the 3 way tie. If it was so random, he could've broke the tie or voted for someone else. Bergil being a wolf, didn't care who got it. If this theory is true, then I would have to conclude that Tar-ancalime is an innocent. Then there is Wayne: his vote that didn't count really befuddles everything that happened after. I shall give him the benefit of the doubt. Had it counted, he broke a tie that would send 2 people to their deaths, and I was confused with the voting rules, so I can't hold that against anybody else. Third to band on Marcolie Rune: hard to really know, if he thought Wayne's counted, then broke a tie, if he knew wayne's didn't count then brought on the tie. But he did voice suspicon of Marcolie earlier. All of this with the underestanding more votes to come, but some never did. Suspect list: Tar-ancalime Hiriel The Ka for no votes, sorry that's automatic in my book, but not necessarily the most suspicious Bergil Sleepy Ranger Rune For reasons stated above, all can change it's still so early
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10-20-2005, 11:15 AM | #97 |
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So before I cast my vote I have one last thing to say about Gurthang's death. It was bothering me why Gurthang was killed, but I couldn't quite put my finger on why. Then as I was at work this morning it hit me. THE Ka. The fact Ka was not attacked is what was sitting in the back of my mind. She was a prime wolf target. She hadn't spoken yet so her death would lead us all back to square one tomorrow. But no, Ka was spared. So either we have very merciful wolves who wanted to give her a chance or Ka is a wolf herself. I am far more inclined to believe our wolves wanted to give Ka at least a chance to say something before doing her in, but I won't rule out the possibilty she is a wolf. I won't act on this theory though, not yet anyway, not until more evidence for or against Ka has come to the surface. But this is something to think about.
Now onto my vote, which I hate to cast so early, but I must. ++ Rune I wish Rune had said something before I did this, but he has not. I said before I found Rune's vote from yesterday. Here are the two theories that have been stated about him. A) He knew Wayne's vote wouldn't count and voted for DEATH to bring in a tie. A very wolfish thing to do. B) He thought Wayne's vote would be counted and voted for DEATH to put her in the lead because then he'd look less suspicious when an innocent died. A very clever way of cover wolf prints. Either theory makes Rune look bad and wolfish. But what also sets him off in my mind is the fact he suspected Glirdan more and yet in that same post he voted for DEATH. Taking into account possibilties A and B it still gives Rune a less than flattering image in my eyes. Also Gurthang would have been a wise choice for Rune to attack at night. Gurthang mentioned him only once and it was to ask for reasons for his suspects. So a decision to kill Gurthang would leave no trail to Rune. I'll be floating around for a little while longer to see what else happens.
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10-20-2005, 11:35 AM | #98 |
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Hey sorry I have not postet before, but things have been kind of crazy here.
Since most people votet randomly or on very loose suspisions, it is hard to tell that much. I have not found anything in Gurthy's posts that point in one direction, but it would properly not have been tar-ancalime who is a wolf becourse she was one of his main suspects. (the other was DEATH and we were wrong about it!) Well I have to go, but will return in 2 houres or so. |
10-20-2005, 11:51 AM | #99 | |
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Now I'm not saying don't suspect or post those suspicions I was just telling you why I don't post them. As for considering a second vote band-waggoning...well I guess its upto how you see it. As for myself I've never really paid much attention to band-waggoning and I'll vote for whom I believe to be a wolf... In Glirdan's case there was a bit of randomness but I daresay you wouldn't have liked it even more if I hadn't voted. After reading Kitanna's posts and reading through Rune's posts I believe he may be a wolf and his reply doesn't really help him much.
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It's a...VOTE...
Well, let's see here...
Starting from the beginning, there seems to be at least three distinct relations and votes between players, two of them, I believe are in some way related. As for the other, it's most likely going to boil over into whichever of the first two prove victorious. So, we have two battling and one watching, simply put. One and two share a suspect, Marcolie, but we have Rune on one reasoning, and Bergil on another. Plus, we have Marcolie voting for Glirdan, who is also voted for by Sleepy. Quote:
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So, it's just a choosing of the blue pill or red pill, really. I'm seeing a reasonable account with the Wayne theory, since with it being the first day and having voting problems (I was another one) usually was a believable answer. Because of this, I believe it pro-longed one of the voting plans, and thus made Rune's vote fall as it did. Since, from what i've read Rune voted possibly before Wayne, though I might be reading it wrong. Quote:
Non-voting the first night as I have been able to guess was due to two reasons: - New players unsure of voting, time zone miscalculations, first night pressure, ect. - Early werewolf tactics and voting plans. The most agreed upon theory of finding out possible suspects (ex. 'werewolf in the crowd'). Now ,the second night should be more reasonable and clear away at least the first reason i've put. If it doesn't I would hold suspicions as well. Oh, the choices... But ,from looking at evidence supplied by people and themselves, I'm going to cast my vote. Rune's vote is rather suspicions because either they knew Wayne was going to vote one way or another, or they took advantage of the moment. Plus, there is the fact as to if and when they voted after or before Wayne. It's too shady for me, and I still have alot of confusions about these three voting plans, but I need to stake a vote now, before I spend too much time thinking as I almost did before. After reading Kit's really helpful posts and everyone else's, (I hate jumping to conclusions, but it's just too early in the game) I am going to have to go with this, because it holds the most evidence: ++ Rune Sincerely, with most thoughfulness, Ka
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10-20-2005, 12:19 PM | #101 |
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To everyone: Don't forget to write VOTE as your title. *looks at Ka and tar* That way we avoid another problem like we need with Wayne's vote yesterday.
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10-20-2005, 12:26 PM | #102 |
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A good thing I checked.
Ok, before you all go asuming I am some sort of fanged fuzzball, I would like to say something.
It seems that you nomather why I votet for Death I am a wolf. This is very odd I think, why should a wolf do both? I am very sorry I dont see these evidence of what you speek. . . Surly a wolf would not vote for a dubbel lynch this would draw atention to one. Bandwagoning is neither the ideal thing to do for a wolf. (at least not in the first day.) It would be much more safe to vote for one not to be killed. I will just remind you that I postet at same time as Death and did not know her vote. I yes I said that I thought less ill of Death, but I truely did not know who to vote for so I went with my first impresion. If youre still suspesios then post them and i will try to answer when I can. |
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Since both my computer and internet are acting up I will vote now in case I am unable to later.
++Rune Because he seems to be the most likely to be a wolf at the moment. Quote:
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10-20-2005, 12:42 PM | #104 | |
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10-20-2005, 01:18 PM | #105 | ||
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Hokay. Took me a while to get on, but I should have some time now. Herm...curious things abound in Lower Tadfield. Tar is being very, very suspicious in my mind, and his vote for the KA befuddles me, but as so many people voiced suspicion of Rune, I'll look at him first.
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Eek. Couldn't get as much time as I thought. Hopefully, I'll get more time to disect the rest of what's gone on, but I might just have to post a quick vote in the nick of time.
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10-20-2005, 01:36 PM | #106 | |||
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Wow a Rune wagon so soon! To be honest I never saw this coming I was thinking over who seemed most suspicious to me and Rune wasn't even on my list. With this evidence that is being brought up by Tar and Kitanna I feel I need to go back and have a re-read and a think. Before I do that, I want to air my suspicions for the day.
The first one is Hiriel. I mentioned yesterday that there was something about his posts that made me uneasy and today I'm still not able to quite put my finger on it. It might be purely down to the fact that he used the word blame back in post 19. He later apologizes for this saying- Quote:
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The second person I have even less to go on and it's Bergil. This is the part of Kitannas' theory I can believe. Quote:
I just wanted to get some feed back on these ideas, if anyone else has similar thoughts. I am defiantly in no position to jump on to Rune right now but I will read and give some thought to it P.S – for future reference I am indeed a she |
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10-20-2005, 02:16 PM | #107 |
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The only thing i can think of against rune is the double lynching. Marcolie and Rune double posted, and were both trying to break the tie. Maroclie's actions were pure, as she was proven inncenct. We can conclude that if Rune is a wolf, than tar is probaly a wolf, because marc, glirdan and tar were tied. marc and glirdan were innocent, so rune would be saveing tar by voting marc. if you follow what im saying (sorry for being confusing). but rune isn't proved a wolf yet, and for my part, im willing to let him of on a cross posting error....for now...
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10-20-2005, 02:40 PM | #108 | ||
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arrrgh
It seems that Kitanna is the one who wants me dead and what ever I do she belives I am Wolf. You decide who that incriminates the most. . .
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There is no point in me, why I votet DEATH I allready told that. Let me tell you how little chance I had to know I was causing a dubbel lynch: 1. I did cross post and I did not know of the tie. 2. There was Wayens post witch none could know would not count ! 3. Glirdan had a vote! It never accurd to me that a person with a chance too save him self would choose not too! (unless the cobbler) Still I do not see my vote as a safe vote for a wolf! Some statet earlyer that a wolf would proberbly start bandwagoning, then a total anomynus vote would be more clever. This way I would stay in the shadows! Kitana points me out becourse I had no conection to Gurthang, well that goes for like everybody! It seems like she realy wants me death. either because she has fanges or she simply dislikes me ! |
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10-20-2005, 03:09 PM | #109 |
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two things
firstly, people have pointed out that my vote made it a 3-way tie last night. I cross-posted with Gurthang, when I typed that up Marcolie had no votes. Secondly, I suspect WayneTheGoblin because it's possible that his vote didn't count on purpose, So he could break a 3-way tie while leaving it unbroken. Draw your own conclusions on both arguments.
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10-20-2005, 05:13 PM | #110 | ||
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Some things I noticed
On the Rune issue and looking back at the actual times votes were casted this could all just be a misunderstanding
Wayne voted at 7.46pm DEATH voted at 7.49pm Rune voted at 7.49pm The times I quote are in my timezone so most peoples will be different, but the key here is the minutes. Isn't it quite possible that they all just cross posted? If that is the case then this theory looses some weight. - Quote:
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10-20-2005, 05:36 PM | #111 |
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Sorry for my absence. I was very busy today. I admit my vote is somewhat bandwagoning, but I rather that then not voting at all.
++Rune if you are innocent, no hard feelings I hope.
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10-20-2005, 05:53 PM | #112 |
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++WayneTheGoblin
before I forget. and remember, think before you vote. it'is a sad day for independance in Lower Taadfield, with all this bandwaggoning. Our dead population would not approve. I've asked them using my ouija board. edit: I didn't really ask, that was an in-caracter comment.
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10-20-2005, 05:57 PM | #113 | |
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In an amazing turn of events I made it on before day ended.
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10-20-2005, 06:08 PM | #114 | |
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quick vote
Herm..Can't get on for any length of time, so, appologies. But I don't want to miss another vote again. It seems as though Rune has his own wagon now. I suspect him, but not enough to vote for him, and I am started to get a little suspicious of Kitana's attacks on him. That could just be Rune's frantic efforts to blame her and save himself, but I dunno. I'll be very interested to see what happens tonight and who Rune turns out to be, and by then I should have some good theories about who has a hairy complex. If Rune indeed is a wolf, it'll be a good justification of my gut paranoia, but also detramental to me, because I didn't vote the first day and didn't vote for a wolf the next. But I'm just not sure enough, and I'd rather not bandwagon. So, because I'm not sure enough about Rune, my vote goes to
++ Tar Ancalime On account of his sudden, odd vote for KA, and my general suspecion carried over from Day I. Quote:
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10-20-2005, 06:20 PM | #115 | |
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++ Hiriel For waiting so long to vote that she missed the deadline. Last edited by sotty; 10-20-2005 at 06:24 PM. |
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10-20-2005, 06:30 PM | #116 |
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well, allots happened. i need to read through, and draw some conclutions. i strongly discourage teh Rune Bandwagon. Kitanna, i don't think you really have much of a case. i know i've caused a double lynching by cross posting, and its pretty obvious that rune cross posted. so...taht's all for now, be back later with something of more value.
votes stand: THE Ka: 1 Rune: 4 Wayne:1 Hiriel: 1 Tar: 1 so we have four left, if i count a-right. ps. hiriel, all this time i thought you were a guy! oops, sorry.
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10-20-2005, 06:35 PM | #117 |
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I didn't take into account timing of votes ( at myself), as far as the votes it looks better for Rune. I shall vote
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10-20-2005, 06:46 PM | #118 |
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my goodness, there just isn't much to go on. I don't have strong feelings on any of our candidates for the noose. Ill go with
++KITANNA because i don't like the way she is gunning for Rune. Like i said, i don't think there is much of a case left. I don't like the bandwagon that formed for Rune. It was entirely unnecessary to kill him with four votes. I'll put the first three taht voted for him on my high suspect list. because i think that that is a safe place to hide your wolfish vote. not the end, taht would be too much bandwagoning and too suspicious for a wolf to try, i think. grrr. i don't know why i play werewolf, its to confusing and conveluted...just kidding, im guess im a complusive werewolfer. ps. thanks rune
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10-20-2005, 06:49 PM | #119 |
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You have to put the ++name in a sepperate line Eonwe. If you want it to count that is.
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10-20-2005, 06:57 PM | #120 |
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++Kitanna
just becouse I can ! ! ! Well not only am I dead, I expect that you al will do a happy dance on my remainings just to mock me! Where after you burn me too a tine crisp and scatter me across town! |
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