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10-04-2005, 11:40 AM | #81 | |
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As of now my main suspect remains Fea and I believe that I may vote for her unless something big happens. As for everyone else, I'm not sure what to think, I have my doubts about many people but I'd like to see where they're headed before I form any more suspicions.
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10-04-2005, 12:56 PM | #82 | ||
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You're right, Folwren, that we can't take sides based on likes/dislikes, but I don't think that's exactly what Sleepy R. had in mind. Working on some thoughts now, I'll post them later. |
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10-04-2005, 01:09 PM | #83 |
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10-04-2005, 01:34 PM | #84 | ||
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10-04-2005, 01:38 PM | #85 |
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Yes I support you but you are my main suspect. I see nothing wrong in that, its just like you'd support your best friend even if you suspect him/her of having done wrong. I don't really have any major suspicions and you head the list, really nothing wrong with that in my opinion. As I stated I was a bit hasty with my judgement there.
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10-04-2005, 01:44 PM | #86 |
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Sleepy, it makes sense to me, but I'm the crazy one by all accounts. But why put your neck on the line for somebody that you think is most likely to be guilty? Especially if you plan on trying to get me lynched...
Shall I simply allow you to go on with your mysterious plans in hopes that you reciprocate? Or shall I persue...
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10-04-2005, 01:48 PM | #87 |
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It is your choice Fea. Just keep in mind that you and TORE aren't the only ones who are cooking up crazy plans that nobody else understands.
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10-04-2005, 02:07 PM | #88 | |
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What the question is, is how do we decide who to allow to work in peace, versus whose moves are mercilessly scrutinized and attacked.
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10-04-2005, 02:12 PM | #89 | |
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10-04-2005, 02:14 PM | #90 | |
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But I am going to agree with Fea, I think this business is just to fishy, SR. All due apologies if I'm wrong & everything, but you're looking the most suspicious out of anyone to me right now. Once more on gifted roles: Subtle hints would be nice. If you think you are incapable of hinting subtlely, don't do it; but if you can drop a small hint or two it would be extremely helpful. Although I should say I've got two of the gifted roles 95% worked out (excluding wolves of course). I should be posting a bit of my thoughts on the going-ons so far in not too long. |
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10-04-2005, 02:54 PM | #91 |
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Ok. I have read the post's over and over and it is not helping me as much as i could hope.
I do not like the fact that Hiriel and Bergil has not posted lately, that alone could be a reason for me to vote for them. . .(If i do not have a person in witch i have reason to doubt) I am now pretty sure that fea is innocent. I will not coment on the rest until later. |
10-04-2005, 02:55 PM | #92 |
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well, the cobbler has died, how do we respond to that? i beleive that no wolves would have voted for him, in fact none voted for another person at all. my logic behind this is that wolves want to avoid leaving a trail, and will not vote if they think it won't make them look suspicious, otherwise they'll vote in a way that won't incriminate them. when this day began, I was going to give Fea another chance, and she blew it by encouraging bandwaggoning, the very thing that will give the wolves annonimity. also, doesn't T.O.R.E. seem strangely analytical?
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10-04-2005, 03:04 PM | #93 | |
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Uh, should I not be trying to analize what has happened so far, Bergil? That is what all innocents should be doing, why is that suspicious?
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I do agree with you, however, that they would probably want to vote in a way that wouldn't incriminate them. A few thoughts: Bergil- suspected malkatoj & Fea but Fea moreso (#22), strongly suspects Fea (#27), admits possibly over-reacting on Fea (#34), somewhat iffy sounding logic (to me) surrounding how the wolves would have voted, reaffirms suspicion of Fea, accuses me of being 'strangely analytical' (#92) Unsure of Eonwe- wants reasons, not just suspicions (#11), thinks voting is good for leaving trails-backtracks a bit (#13), sounds a little non-commital (#44), goes with a random vote (#52), says Fea is probably innocent (#74) Unsure of Feanor of the Peredhil- confusing as usual, but I say we let her logic work for her & I'll say why in a very short while, suspects malkatoj Likely innocent Jack (aka Folwren)- half-suspects Sleepy (#24), suspects their could be a Kitanna/Gurthang alliance (#30), advises people against voting for Fea (#46), doesn't vote (interesting) (#49), makes a point about Sleepy's apparent "wishywashyness" of whatever you want to call it, thinks that Fea is innocent despite being confusing, that Eonwe is somewhat suspicious at least & Bergil is questionable (#78) Not quite sure of Kitanna- dead but why? did she hit to close to home? Gurthang- says he thinks the wolves killed someone not associated with them (#61), states that he likes it when everyone votes so there's a trail, says Fea is still acting suspicious, wants a reason for Sleepy jumping in with Fea on Malkatoj (#73), presses Sleepy for an answer (#80) Not quite sure of, but likely innocent Hiriel- Nothing to work with yet Malkatoj- suspects Fea for pegging 5 wolves when there are only 3 (#10), supports Gurthang & Hiriel (#18), asks Fea for reasons on her suspicion of TORE (#21), wants more reasons from Fea (#70) Unsure of Rune Son of Bjarne- seems to be rather level headed, voiced suspicions of me early on, now he voices some suspicion of Bergil & Hiriel for not having spoken (although Bergil now has) Probably innocent, not quite sure Sleepy Ranger- Very suspicious of Fea (#64), half as suspicious of Fea now, more suspicous of malkatoj, has a few doubts of me, thinks Gurthang may be sowing seeds of distrust (#72), reiterates that he DID NOT take my side (#79), now says that Fea is suspicious as well as malkatoj (#81), looks a bit suspicious to me some of his later posts Unsure of Thinlomien- suspicious of Fea (#63), not much at all to go on Last edited by The Only Real Estel; 10-04-2005 at 03:19 PM. |
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10-04-2005, 03:18 PM | #94 | ||
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I hate not knowing things. My thoughts are currently ranging all over the place, but the most solid thing I can settle on is that I'm very suspicious of Sleepy Ranger and of Bergil.
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10-04-2005, 03:19 PM | #95 |
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It was not suspicious to not vote because many people didn't vote. I suggest they waitied untill late to vote so they could be shure the people they voted for wouldn't die and leave a trail pointing to them, and realized few people would vote that day (a total of 5,including Fea. I hope I cleared that up.
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10-04-2005, 03:22 PM | #96 |
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on Fea
Any more suspicion of Fea is just wasted time & breath. Unless I grossly misunderstand the seer's hint, Fea is innocent as the pure & wind driven snow.
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10-04-2005, 03:25 PM | #97 |
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I know what I'm doing may make no sense at all but I request that you trust me for a while longer. I think I know what I'm doing. I am now pretty certain of what is what and what I should do but I will not reveal anything of my plan till a later. I see many people are growing cautious of me, I do not know how to reply to that because I have given people reason to suspect me but I request that you go along with me.
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10-04-2005, 03:27 PM | #98 |
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Cheers, TORE. Shall we waste some breath on Bergil?
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10-04-2005, 03:29 PM | #99 |
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I think the village can only afford to take Sleepy at his word...for the moment.
But Bergil worries me greatly...I'm off to search for hints. More later. |
10-04-2005, 03:32 PM | #100 | |
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The reason i mention Hiriel and Bergil, is that i would like something to judge people by ! |
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10-04-2005, 03:41 PM | #101 |
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And that's a perfectly good reason, Rune.
I don't suspect you I just haven't entirely cleared you yet, I can't be sure of anyone's innocence at the moment except Fea's. And besides, trust can easily be twisted by these wolves. I don't trust just anyone & I don't want anyone to just trust me on Fea or anything else I might find in earlier or later posts. Search for yourself, it's not that difficult - I daresay our seer may be in danger. |
10-04-2005, 03:43 PM | #102 |
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Earlier today I voiced my suspicion of those who defend Fea and I'd like to state more accurately whom I suspect and WHY (reasons=good, rememeber).
Yesterday, Sleepy and Jack defended Fea after her vote for herself. Today, Sleepy's defense has done a complete 180 and he now lists Fea as his prime suspect. Jack, on the other hand, is still acting defensive of Fea. This seems like a wolfish tactic--together one day, not the next, it'd look like random villagers not connected at all. My suspicion draws me more to Sleepy, however, because of his sudden change in ideas. Also, his "flip-flopping" on the Fea issue--supporting her by bandwagoning though still suspecting her, even after defending her yesterday--seems very suspicious. (Again, I don't care so much WHO the vote is for, but WHY. Even Fea admitted to have no reason to suspect me, yet he still bandwagoned. I don't care that it's for me. Just that there doesn't seem to be a reason.) And for further reference, I am, indeed, a she. So for now Sleepy remains my chief suspect. I'll be on and off for the rest of the day and will update you if my suspicions change. |
10-04-2005, 03:47 PM | #103 |
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TORE is right. You can't trust anybody but yourself at the moment (if I understand correct). But then again we must trust each other to some extent if we are to defeat the wolves. I am glad that you can trust me TORE and I promise you won't find anything wrong with me. Anyway I know I can't clear up all your doubts but I will try none the less.
And Malkatoj I did say that it was a decision I made in haste and I withdrew my suspicion after a closer read. I know I've been really edgy and my opinions have been changing constantly but I have made no strong accusations of yet. I do have a faint image dancing around my mind but I still do not have a clear pereception of events and before I do I will with hold my judgement.
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Sleepy, I hate to break it to you, but you are probably the top of my 'list'. That is if I had a list. But you have been very inconsistant, jumping from suspecting someone to not suspecting them, and in a single post you both supported and denounced Feanor. Don't be too surprised if you get a vote from me today.
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10-04-2005, 04:40 PM | #105 | ||
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Anywho... TORE, does anything malkatoj said strike you as funny?
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10-04-2005, 04:43 PM | #106 | ||||
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Hullo all! Goodness, but I missed a lot. Very sorry. My dad's going to have lung surgery this week, so if the plight of Fwederwick is a little distant in my mind, I'm sorry. Real life is being a @*#& to me at present. But I have read over the thread, and here's what stuck me.
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Jack and Gurthang I'm not sure of, but both have said some helpful things, so I'm inclined to believe they're ordos. malkatoj...I'm not sure of. She's been being very confrontational to SR, and some things that strike me as odd for some reason I can't quite articulate yet. But, I'm just not sure. Wow, that was longer than I ment it to be. I'm going to reread the thread and see what happens next. With any luck, I'll post again in about an hour.
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10-04-2005, 04:44 PM | #107 | ||
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10-04-2005, 05:07 PM | #108 |
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wow, so much has happened that does nothing to further our ends. sorry, i keep on letting the pesimism seep through.
ok then, sleepy ranger: we are certainly dividing into pro and con on this one. for my part, while i find his behavior quite sus, i think let's at least wait until he unvails his plan; hopefully in the next day or two (hint hint ) right, next up, bergil: suspicious. i don't quite like his tone... fea: same as last time: seems innocent, but if guilty...i will kill her and then myself just kidding...no i really will...im jsut joking...or am i? TORE: i like this guy. onf the ball, sound posts, sound logic. Rune: like him too. Lets see, ah thin: you need to talk some, my friend! Gurthang: clean for now... that's all for now. i will keep looking for stuff. totally not sure about the vote right now. ps. fea, sorry to question your apperently sound plan. didn't quite no how to take it, not being experience and all...i swear, if you're a wolf...
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10-04-2005, 05:14 PM | #109 |
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Well if i was part of such a trio i would proberbly not insist on fea's inoccens !
At this time there is two things that bothers me. 1. The coment from Bergil about analysing 2. The sudden change of Sleepy Ranger The rest i may have some suspicions about, but i wont mention them now! (I cannot give realy good reasons to why i suspect them) |
10-04-2005, 05:26 PM | #110 | ||
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Now I've got to be choosey here. I'm sorry but I'm not going to expand much because if I accidently give away the identity of the seer I'll lynch myself. You don't see how I can be 100% sure of the Seer just yet? Sir, did you not take that course in Phantomology that was offered in the village not a month ago? It is not as hard as all that, you just need some time to really think things out. To be accurate I am not 100% sure of the seer, only 95%. But the difference between being totally lost & at least knowing one innocent is worth the 5% risk, I think. I hope you're satisfied because I'm not going into further detail no matter what, find it yourself. |
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10-04-2005, 05:27 PM | #111 | |
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I'm really torn on this matter--it seems like he's either the Seer or a Wolf, and either way he's doing a good job at it. While I'd hate to lose the Seer, we really need to start finding wolves. I think we should back off him for a few days so we can see more about what he's up to. Dinner time for Malkatoj, though I shall return and look more closely. Right now I really don't know who to vote for, though if we're going to trust that Sleepy is the seer, then killing Fea would probably be our best bet. |
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10-04-2005, 05:58 PM | #114 |
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Since I am off for the day I will leave my vote.
I am voting for Bergil mainly because he has just posted once or twice and because I am not really sure about other people. ++Bergil
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10-04-2005, 05:59 PM | #115 | |
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No other updates from my last post, save that both Fea and TORE seem to be darn sure of something that I'm only seeing hints of here. Puts me a little ill at ease, but then again, I am a bumbling novice. I could be missing something. I'll see what happens next and check in after about an hour or so.
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10-04-2005, 06:06 PM | #116 |
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herm, sometimes i hate werewolf. everything anyone says can be used to point to being both guilty and innocent. that's not really true but you know what i mean.
is it just me, or are some people wondering just what TORE and fea are talking about. i like it less and less (and sometimes more and more) that TORE and fea are dominating this game. sometimes i am confinced of both of their innocence and someimes i know they are guilty. the both of them. we'll just have to wait and see. but lets not kill either of them, or SR either, because they all have a plan. we should wait and see what that is. as for who we should suspect, it think bergil is a good bet. he is the only one i can see that really sticks out. like i said, i don't like his tone. edit: cross post with hiriel.
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10-04-2005, 06:08 PM | #117 | |
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Anyhow... birthday party! So I'm taking off an hour earlier than I expected. Which means that ++SLEEPY RANGER gets tonight's vote from me. If I'm wrong on this, which I very well could be, many apologies, Ranger'm'lad.
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10-04-2005, 06:09 PM | #118 | |
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10-04-2005, 06:10 PM | #119 | |
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I'm not saying SR is definitely the seer, I was just saying it would give an excuse for him to be defending Fea one day and condemning her the next, for apparently no reason. Honestly, I don't think SR is the seer. All I'm saying is that if he is, and he did indeed dream of Fea, then he found something he didn't like there. I don't think it's a good idea to kill Fea until we have much more evidence aside from her being outspoken. Expect my vote (with an explanation) fairly soon, since I'll need to be going shortly. |
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10-04-2005, 06:14 PM | #120 | |
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I to am considering Bergil. Another thought: Can we afford to have Thinlomien in the village. (Is kind of hidding) |
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