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Turambar · 02-28-2003, 02:03 PM

What is the star of the North?

If that would give it away, just ignore me. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ February 28, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Annunfuiniel · 02-28-2003, 02:50 PM

Check the Riddle ME this -thread for the answer (the last post at the moment), there it's described quite well. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ March 01, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

Tar-Palantir · 02-28-2003, 06:18 PM

All of the Items were kept in Imladris, except for the Elfstone (given by Galadriel).

Annunfuiniel · 03-01-2003, 12:35 AM

You're getting pretty close! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gil-Galad · 03-03-2003, 07:16 PM

any pther guesses? if not annunfiniel gets to go again

Rochelle · 03-03-2003, 07:49 PM

I'm going to say Star of the North because it was not given to Aragorn II?

Annunfuiniel · 03-04-2003, 12:36 AM

Ok, I'll give it to Tar-Palantir 'cause he got the right item. The others were items Aragorn had a hereditary right to exept Elfstone which was given to him by Galadriel (obviously it became a heirloom but wasn't that for Aragorn).
Hope that clears it up! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Carry on, T-P!

Tar-Palantir · 03-04-2003, 02:30 AM

why thank you - that was a tough one! I already know this one has beings in addition to items, but I think you can handle it.

Belthronding
Mirror of Galadriel
Shadowfax
Ilúvatar
The One Ring

good luck players!

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

03-04-2003, 02:41 AM

Possibably the Mirror Of Galadriel because it is the only one on the list that isnt one thing. It is water in a dish with magical properties. The others are actual things: Ring, Horse, Spirit(Eru), and a Bow...

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Valórin ]

lathspell · 03-04-2003, 05:50 AM

I thought this was 'odd item out. I don't regard Shadowfax or Iluvatar as items, but maybe people disagree.

lathspell

Tar-Palantir · 03-04-2003, 01:46 PM

I thought I explained that, I will concede though I find it silly.

Elven cloaks
Three strands of hair
Golden belt
A Phial
Box of dirt
Elfstone
Mirror of Galadriel

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-04-2003, 03:22 PM

The Mirror of Galadriel. It is the only one that was not a gift to others from Galadriel/her people.

Btw, what was the answer to the disallowed one?

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Tar-Palantir · 03-04-2003, 03:53 PM

You are correct TheSaucepanMan.

The answer to the other one was that they all had but one master, except Eru who had no master. I thought it was a neat one.

03-05-2003, 12:28 AM

Yes, very nice... Although it was a bit silly to ignore one just becuase its slightly modified from the topic...

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-05-2003, 07:51 AM

Here's the next list:

Palantir of Orthanc
Athelas
Pipe
Elven Brooch
Corsair's Boat

lathspell · 03-05-2003, 11:15 AM

Corsair's Boat, all the others have been in the hands of Aragorn

Annunfuiniel · 03-05-2003, 11:33 AM

Pipe? All others were useful to Aragorn during the War of the Rings but his pipe was just something he had for amusement.

Gil-Galad · 03-05-2003, 05:08 PM

Corsairs boat was made for evil purposes the rest were good or gifts

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-05-2003, 08:38 PM

Annunfuiniel has it.

All of them were used by, and useful to, Aragorn in the War of the Ring. The pipe was used by him, but played no specific role in the Quest of the Ring and the battle to defeat Sauron.

Annunfuiniel · 03-07-2003, 01:42 AM

Yeah! Ok, here's the next list of items:

Glamdring
Gúthwinë
Narsil
Orcrist
Sting

Estanesse · 03-07-2003, 02:45 AM

Narsil because it was forged by a dwarf all the others are forged by an elf.

[ March 07, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Annunfuiniel · 03-07-2003, 03:28 AM

Maybe so (I can't be sure about Gúthwinë, was it forged by elves?), but that's not the answer I'm looking for...

03-07-2003, 05:04 AM

Sting - Bilbo game it that name, while the others gained their names from their creators/forgers.

lathspell · 03-08-2003, 10:00 PM

Orcrist is the only one that was worn by immortal and mortal folk. Once it belonged to the Elves of Gondolin, later to the Trolls, and after that to Thorin Oakenshield.

Annunfuiniel · 03-09-2003, 12:54 AM

No right answer yet...
I think that Sting was also borne by both immortal and mortal subjects.
Hint: think about their qualities

Tar-Palantir · 03-09-2003, 01:16 AM

Sting is just a knife?

Or is it that Gúthwinë was standard issue grade and the others were all special/magical?

[ March 09, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

Annunfuiniel · 03-09-2003, 01:30 AM

Yes, finally! All the others had blades that gleamed or glowed or shimmered or whatsoever in a "magical" way but Gúthwinë was just an ordinary sword, no magic there. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Well done T-P (may I call you that? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ), please go on.

lathspell · 03-09-2003, 09:05 AM

Did Narsil do that stuff as well?

Estanesse · 03-09-2003, 09:23 AM

No, because it was not a sword made by elves but dwarves. Only elf swords made in Gondolin glowed. But I think the answer is still correct because Gúthwinë was the only sword who had nothing magical.

Annunfuiniel · 03-09-2003, 09:51 AM

Yes, I believe it did based on the following description (from the Silmarillion):

Quote:

...and the sword of Elendil filled Orcs and Men with fear, for it shone with the light of the sun and of the moon, and it was named Narsil.

Narsil lost its glow when it was broken but gained it back after being re-forged to Anduril. That's at least how I have come to know it.

[ March 09, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

Tar-Palantir · 03-09-2003, 11:47 AM

There is another instance also where it is described as shining with a white light (or something similar) when Aragorn wielded it.

Eärrámë
Númerrámar
Vingilot
White Ship

bon voyage players. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gil-Galad · 03-09-2003, 01:38 PM

VIngilot becasue it went up to the Skys and was shinign with a Silmaril

Tar-Palantir · 03-09-2003, 03:30 PM

Nope, nothing to do with flying or sinking.

Faenaduial · 03-09-2003, 05:03 PM

Numerramar. It sailed to Middle Earth, the others sailed out of Middle Earth.

Tar-Palantir · 03-09-2003, 05:46 PM

Hey good job, I guess I'll have to start making them really hard. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

your turn Faenaduial.

Faenaduial · 03-09-2003, 09:38 PM

Thanks,

mallos
elanor
aeglos
alfirin

Estanesse · 03-10-2003, 03:43 AM

aeglos
Because it's the only white flower
all the others are golden flowers

lathspell · 03-10-2003, 05:39 AM

Aeglos - A weapon was also named so.

Elanor - Sam's daughter was named likewise.

Faenaduial · 03-10-2003, 08:49 AM

Estanesse, you are correct.

Your turn. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Estanesse · 03-10-2003, 12:34 PM

Thanks

shield
lance
Knife
sword

02-28-2003, 02:03 PM	#41
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	What is the star of the North? If that would give it away, just ignore me. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [ February 28, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-28-2003, 02:50 PM	#42
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Check the Riddle ME this -thread for the answer (the last post at the moment), there it's described quite well. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ March 01, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ] __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

02-28-2003, 06:18 PM	#43
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	All of the Items were kept in Imladris, except for the Elfstone (given by Galadriel). __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-01-2003, 12:35 AM	#44
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	You're getting pretty close! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-03-2003, 07:16 PM	#45
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	any pther guesses? if not annunfiniel gets to go again __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-03-2003, 07:49 PM	#46
Rochelle Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Bonfire Glade RtR 80 miles Posts: 376	I'm going to say Star of the North because it was not given to Aragorn II? __________________ Ad Astra Per Aspera (A rough road leads to the stars) "Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens"

03-04-2003, 12:36 AM	#47
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Ok, I'll give it to Tar-Palantir 'cause he got the right item. The others were items Aragorn had a hereditary right to exept Elfstone which was given to him by Galadriel (obviously it became a heirloom but wasn't that for Aragorn). Hope that clears it up! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Carry on, T-P! __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-04-2003, 02:30 AM	#48
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	why thank you - that was a tough one! I already know this one has beings in addition to items, but I think you can handle it. Belthronding Mirror of Galadriel Shadowfax Ilúvatar The One Ring good luck players! [ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-04-2003, 02:41 AM	#49
Valórin Guest Posts: n/a	Possibably the Mirror Of Galadriel because it is the only one on the list that isnt one thing. It is water in a dish with magical properties. The others are actual things: Ring, Horse, Spirit(Eru), and a Bow... [ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Valórin ]

03-04-2003, 05:50 AM	#50
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	I thought this was 'odd item out. I don't regard Shadowfax or Iluvatar as items, but maybe people disagree. lathspell __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

03-04-2003, 01:46 PM	#51
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	I thought I explained that, I will concede though I find it silly. Elven cloaks Three strands of hair Golden belt A Phial Box of dirt Elfstone Mirror of Galadriel [ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-04-2003, 03:22 PM	#52
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	The Mirror of Galadriel. It is the only one that was not a gift to others from Galadriel/her people. Btw, what was the answer to the disallowed one? [ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-04-2003, 03:53 PM	#53
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	You are correct TheSaucepanMan. The answer to the other one was that they all had but one master, except Eru who had no master. I thought it was a neat one. __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-05-2003, 12:28 AM	#54
Valórin Guest Posts: n/a	Yes, very nice... Although it was a bit silly to ignore one just becuase its slightly modified from the topic...

03-05-2003, 07:51 AM	#55
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Here's the next list: Palantir of Orthanc Athelas Pipe Elven Brooch Corsair's Boat __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-05-2003, 11:15 AM	#56
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	Corsair's Boat, all the others have been in the hands of Aragorn __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

03-05-2003, 11:33 AM	#57
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Pipe? All others were useful to Aragorn during the War of the Rings but his pipe was just something he had for amusement. __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-05-2003, 05:08 PM	#58
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Corsairs boat was made for evil purposes the rest were good or gifts __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-05-2003, 08:38 PM	#59
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Annunfuiniel has it. All of them were used by, and useful to, Aragorn in the War of the Ring. The pipe was used by him, but played no specific role in the Quest of the Ring and the battle to defeat Sauron. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-07-2003, 01:42 AM	#60
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Yeah! Ok, here's the next list of items: Glamdring Gúthwinë Narsil Orcrist Sting __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-07-2003, 02:45 AM	#61
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Narsil because it was forged by a dwarf all the others are forged by an elf. [ March 07, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ] __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

03-07-2003, 03:28 AM	#62
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Maybe so (I can't be sure about Gúthwinë, was it forged by elves?), but that's not the answer I'm looking for... __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-07-2003, 05:04 AM	#63
Valórin Guest Posts: n/a	Sting - Bilbo game it that name, while the others gained their names from their creators/forgers.

03-08-2003, 10:00 PM	#64
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	Orcrist is the only one that was worn by immortal and mortal folk. Once it belonged to the Elves of Gondolin, later to the Trolls, and after that to Thorin Oakenshield. __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

03-09-2003, 12:54 AM	#65
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	No right answer yet... I think that Sting was also borne by both immortal and mortal subjects. Hint: think about their qualities __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-09-2003, 01:16 AM	#66
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Sting is just a knife? Or is it that Gúthwinë was standard issue grade and the others were all special/magical? [ March 09, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-09-2003, 01:30 AM	#67
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 769	Yes, finally! All the others had blades that gleamed or glowed or shimmered or whatsoever in a "magical" way but Gúthwinë was just an ordinary sword, no magic there. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Well done T-P (may I call you that? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ), please go on. __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

03-09-2003, 09:05 AM	#68
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	Did Narsil do that stuff as well? __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

03-09-2003, 09:23 AM	#69
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No, because it was not a sword made by elves but dwarves. Only elf swords made in Gondolin glowed. But I think the answer is still correct because Gúthwinë was the only sword who had nothing magical. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

03-09-2003, 11:47 AM	#71
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	There is another instance also where it is described as shining with a white light (or something similar) when Aragorn wielded it. Eärrámë Númerrámar Vingilot White Ship bon voyage players. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-09-2003, 01:38 PM	#72
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	VIngilot becasue it went up to the Skys and was shinign with a Silmaril __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-09-2003, 03:30 PM	#73
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Nope, nothing to do with flying or sinking. __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-09-2003, 05:03 PM	#74
Faenaduial Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood - 710 miles WtR Posts: 246	Numerramar. It sailed to Middle Earth, the others sailed out of Middle Earth. __________________ Risk everything, or gain nothing. -- Geoffrey De Charny, 1358 Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.

03-09-2003, 05:46 PM	#75
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Hey good job, I guess I'll have to start making them really hard. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] your turn Faenaduial. __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-09-2003, 09:38 PM	#76
Faenaduial Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood - 710 miles WtR Posts: 246	Thanks, mallos elanor aeglos alfirin __________________ Risk everything, or gain nothing. -- Geoffrey De Charny, 1358 Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.