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Frodo | 6 | 9.84% | |
Bilbo | 12 | 19.67% | |
Pippin | 13 | 21.31% | |
Merry | 12 | 19.67% | |
Sam | 18 | 29.51% | |
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07-20-2005, 12:21 PM | #41 | |
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07-20-2005, 12:40 PM | #42 | |
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I vote for Samwise!! Why? Goodness, if any of you had any sense you'd figure out why.
Sam has just about all the good qualities that the other hobbits have - he's humorous, brave, honest, selfless, and completely down to earth. He's an excellent poet, and he loved his Gaffer! So, mormegil, I totally agree with your first post concerning Sam. (Except, maybe Bilbo wasn't a senile old coot...) Quote:
By the bye, he did make it to the Undying Lands, according to the Appendice.
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07-20-2005, 02:13 PM | #43 | |||||
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I see I have some things to attend to...
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Now that the defence is sorted, the attack may begin. Samwise is detestable. He symbolises hypocrisy in its strongest form. He rises from a peasant class family to become a member of the nobility. And then what does he do for the peasantly? Nothing! *spits* And obsessed with cooking like he is... you can't trust hobbits with such bad cuisine. |
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07-20-2005, 02:39 PM | #44 | ||
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Let's not forget that Sam never desired the spot light whereas Bilbo seemed rather obessed with being the center of attention. Writing verse about Elrond's family in front of him and then having the nerve to recite it. Doing that whole party thing so he could be remembered. Seems a bit arrogant to me.
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07-20-2005, 02:49 PM | #45 | |||
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So begins the War of a Thousand Flames ;)
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07-20-2005, 03:02 PM | #46 |
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Soon, TGWBS, I worry that you will start calling little Biblo your precious.
Biblo view's are far too simplistic (ie elves singing tra-la-la-lally). Remember that the account we have of his deeds are from his own pen. Of course he will slant them to make him look favorable. "No I didn't steal the Arkenstone I merely tried to prevent war". He saw a pitiable creature and what did he do? He took the thing it desired most and deprived that creature of it. I am of course speaking of Throin and the Dragon. Let's not forget what he did to Gollum too. I see a disturbing pattern here. He kept the accursed ring for himself until he found out how personally dangerous it was and what did he do with it? Gave it to his heir and said here's my problem you deal with it! And in defense of Sam wanting attention you know you are grasping at straws. He was only mayor because he knew he could help the peasant class. Edit: intentional misspelling of Biblo's name
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07-20-2005, 04:28 PM | #47 | |
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++ Sam
Sorry, I couldn't resist! But seriously, he's loyal, humble, funny, a good cook, a family man, a good poet/songwriter, what more could you want? Quote:
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07-20-2005, 08:08 PM | #48 | |
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07-20-2005, 08:51 PM | #49 | ||
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My word!!
It's a jolly good thing this is all under the humor section, or I'd think you guys were serious! As it is, I'm having a hard enough time as it is to keep from getting possitively furious with at least TGWBS.
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And chap doesn't make himself Mayor, either. The people vote for him. Ding-dong! And as for having thirteen children...that was just as much Rosie's choice as Sam's. A woman doesn't go off and have more than a dozen kids just so that her husband can be in the spotlight. Quote:
Sam Gamgee was the humblest, sweetest of all hobbits, and though Bilbo is great in his own way, I don't think he holds a light to Sam's over all character in the books.
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07-20-2005, 10:23 PM | #50 |
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Strike three against Biblo
That ninnyheimer wouldn't have made it anywhere without the aid of Gandalf whereas Sam the Beloved was the aid to Frodo, who wouldn't have made it as far as he did without him.
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07-21-2005, 07:21 AM | #51 |
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Bah! Nobody would have made it anywhere anyway without Bilbo's actions in sneaking the preciousss out from under the Misty Mountains.
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07-22-2005, 03:10 PM | #52 | |
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An extended attack on master Samwise Gamgee
It appears there is much resentment at the truth about Samwise emerging, but I'm afraid that, as long as it is possible to do so, it is my duty to enlighten you misguided followers of the "nasssty hobbit," as one famous opponent once called him.
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Ludricous? Let us consider the timeline and Master Gamgee's family tree. 1427 - Merry, Sam's son, is born. Conveniently, Sam is elected for the first time soon after on the same year. 1433 - Sam's daughter Primrose born late in the year. Sam re-elected early 1434. 1440 - Sam's daughter Robin born in the ending months. Sam re-elected in the following months next year. 1448 - It is not known, but highly suspected amongst scholars, that Sam forced his daughter Elanor to have a baby in this year, giving him the status of Grandfather. He is re-elected. 1454 - Elanor again forced to have a child, Elfstan. Sam elected following year. 1462 - Sam's son, Frodo, forced to have a child (Holfast) this year. Sam re-elected same year. 1469 - Some other child of Sam's is presumably forced to reproduce this year, resulting in his re-election. As you can see, each election campaign conveniently had some spawn of Sam's for him to fawn over in front of crowds, pulling in the voters. Carefully choreographed, we can only assume that his offspring rebelled against him during his later years, forcing him across the Sea. Now, it is late, and further attacks on Mister Samwise and defences of Saint Bilbo can wait for the morrow. |
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07-22-2005, 08:25 PM | #53 | ||
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But, have to say, on account of the lack of birth control that they had, it's impossible for Sam to have planned his children around the politicial calender. Quote:
TGWBS, I have to say that your debating skills are lacking. Either find new evidence against Sam or just give up! These arguments just aren't cutting it.
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07-23-2005, 06:16 AM | #54 | |
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Ah but Folwren the dates TGWBS has come up with are in fact correct! I just checked the appendices (B and C) and all the dates are in there.
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And to continue bashing Sam how come he got to go over the sea anyway? He had the Ring for an incredibly short time and yet still he is somehow granted this blessing, when Merry and Pippin just die! So they never held the Ring, Merry helped kill the Witchking!
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07-23-2005, 03:48 PM | #55 |
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the phantom voted for Bilbo. Why are people still debating?
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07-23-2005, 04:09 PM | #56 |
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Because the phantom is supposed to be on holiday until July 30th and so until this date has arrived all comments from him will be duly ignored.
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07-23-2005, 05:58 PM | #57 | |
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07-23-2005, 07:07 PM | #58 | |
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07-23-2005, 09:57 PM | #59 | |
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07-26-2005, 06:07 AM | #60 |
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A serious point - Gollum
Bilbo was pitiful enough to stay his hand and allow Gollum to live. How noble, and of course, it meant the ring could eventually be destroyed. Even if this were not the case, it was the right thing to do, and he was displaying how merciful he was.
On the other hand, we have Sam the Sadist, who likes tying Gollum up, attacking him, verbally abusing him, etc. etc. Come on people! How can you vote for Samwise the Cruelheart?! For my part, I find it surprising that Bilbo has not yet been canonised... |
07-26-2005, 07:07 AM | #61 |
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Pity?
You call that pity? I think Bilbo lacks any amount of courage. Remember my friend he is the one who wrote the historical narrative we have. No it's not pity it's simply a lack of courage to do the job right. Now look what the little sneak did during the battle of five armies. He slipped the ring on and passed out due to fear. I know that he contrived some far-fetched story but the truth is simple enough for those with the ability to look below the surface.
Samwise the cruelheart? No, calling him this merely shows your ignorance towards the most beloved hobbit. Now if you knew Samwise well enough, you would know that he was a master of psychology. With his knowledge Sam knew that the only way to heal Gollum of his malady was through keeping him still and tough love. You see Sam was merely trying to cure him and it almost worked but that poor wretch was simply too far gone even for master healer Samwise Edit: For Fordim's sake. I like you TGWBS. Bilbo's okay too, but he still can't hold a candle to Samwise.
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07-26-2005, 07:16 AM | #62 |
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Now people, people, let's try to keep this civil -- the heated nature of this debate is beginning to make it look like the wings/no-wings debacle that surrounds balrogs.
So, say nice things to each other or you're all a bunch of Lothos!!
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Was I nice enough, Fordim? And all this is mostly friendly bantering, is it not? I'm just sharpening my debating skills and my knowledge of both Bilbo and Sam!
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07-26-2005, 09:18 AM | #64 |
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Hobbit-Baggage
Hey! Why doesn't anybody seem to like Pippin? He's all but been forgotten in this poll! Sure, he can be annoying, but I think Gandalf is just too easily annoyed! And who wouldn't want to splash some water around after a narrow escape from Black Riders in the dark of one's own homeland? I didn't see anyone else cleaning it up for him! Plus, he guided Frodo and Sam most expertly through parts of the Shire they couldn't possibly have navigated so well if it hadn't been for the nimble feet and mind of Mr. Peregrin Took! And let's not forget his easy social grace with Farmer Maggot, that kept Frodo from becoming dog food! He may be impulsive, but I think in this he is a more human reflection of Gandalf himself--allowing and causing things to be without a clear reason for them and yet this trait opens new ways and moves great events. Pippin is the upright Fool who becomes the Knight who lightly steps in this world (even laughing a little ere the end...) Even Gandalf said that Pippin SAVED him from a great danger and folly with his Palantir hijinks! And he grows up soon enough and well enough during the War of the Ring to emerge as a stouthearted hero in his own right, one who has great support in the Shire and a way with everyone he meets! Plus, he's cheerful! Look how depressed Merry and Frodo and Sam all become near the end of the War, just because Pippin isn't there to cheer them up!
Now why has everyone forgotten my dear Peregrin Took? And even added hobbits not on the list instead of realizing that Pippin is there, overlooked. I have enjoyed this rant once again, as I seem to cheer myself up by going on about the merits of the youngest Fellowship member...he has, in recent times (let's say the last few years), alternated with Frodo as my favorite. But since no one has spoken up for him, I thought I'd have a go! Cheers! Lyta P.S. I notice he's got votes, but I had not seen anyone explaining why they liked him! Blame my bad eyesight and hasty ways! P.P.S.: I notice the Frodo seems to be losing this poll. Does everyone think he's just a tragic hero? I rather think of him as a dreamer who really appreciates the things he has and loves the Shire and woods that surround him! Real Elvish-like, as Sam might say....a seeker after beauty. In other words, a hobbit after my own heart! A pity that stupid Ring keeps people from liking him as well! P.P.P.S: Haven't voted yet, but still trying to weigh the nature of my affections--similar but different...it is hard to pick a favorite Hobbit! I love them all! (Maybe I'm Gandalf? Hardly!)
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07-26-2005, 10:26 AM | #65 |
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Another vote for Sam.
I've been thinking about this poll, and mumbling on to myself about the problematic task of having to pick a favorite out of the lot. But once past all the grumbling I kept coming back to Sam. I won't go on about specific qualities of his, as it would be highly subjective, (I have a weakness for long suffering characters who don't take themselves too seriously), but Sam was the one hobbit whose presence stayed with me long after I had finished reading the story: a sort of heroic personage of the type you actually meet now and again. And if I could be half the hobbit he was, (and I don't mean stature) well then, I would be very content.
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07-26-2005, 11:48 AM | #66 |
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Yay for Hilde Bracegirdle!!
Edit: I didn't vote for Peregrin merely for the fact that he's not my favorite. He's a dear hobbit, to be sure, and I'm sure everyone loves him, even though they say otherwise on this thread sometimes. And it was a hard choice for be to pick either Frodo or Sam. As you have probably noticed, I decided on Sam, but Frodo was almost it. Don't worry - Frodo wasn't forgotten, even though the poll may make it appear so.
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07-26-2005, 05:04 PM | #67 |
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Personally, I like my Hobbits "Hobbity" and Frodo (while most definately a most admirable Hobbit) is, by the end, rather too "unwordly" to get my vote. Perhaps that's the reason for his relatively poor showing in the poll (I'm sure that he would top many others).
Of the "Fellowship Hobbits", I would have voted for Pippin, for many of the reasons that Lyta so eloquently stated. His innocence, sense of humour and curiosity are appealing and his transition from "young innocent abroad" to Gondorian warrior is a great aspect of the story. But my first introduction to Tolkien was courtesy of Bilbo, when I first read The Hobbit many many years ago, and I probably identify most with him of all the characters in either the Hobbit or LotR (with the possible exception of Butterbur ). So its Bilbo who gest my vote.
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07-27-2005, 05:57 AM | #68 |
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I do love Bilbo and he will always have a special place in my affections as he was the first Hobbit I ever discovered and the one that introduced me to the wonders of Tolkien. He was also quite a resourceful little fellow with his plans for getting the Dwarves out of the Elf-kings cellars and for making peace between the Dwarves and the Men. He was completely out of place in their world and still made the best of it, and he remained a Hobbit throughout, always on the look-out for rest and food!
Frodo I found was just not a Hobbit anymore by the end after all that he had been through. He saw the world with a sadness that should just not be inherent in Hobbit's. He was wise and kind and courageous but was always to me the distant hero that you admired but did not connect with. Sam I found the more down-to-earth and available of the hero's. And he was heroic, he just did it all with Hobbit sense and love for his master. Regardless of TGWBS' views on his later political career he did do the Shire a great service with his gift from Galadriel and he helped to keep the stories alive. Merry annoyed me at the beginning of the books. It wasn't really until Bree that I began to like him, but by the charge of the Rohirrim he was a beloved character who I wanted to see make it through. His part in the destruction of the Witch King again makes him a hero, and again one of the more accessible ones. Pippin however I have always had a soft spot for. He is just the perfect Hobbit and sweet and innocent with it. His experience with war and the Palantir changed him in no way for the worse and he still retained his Hobbitness through it all. He was always there to cheer people up and even Gandalf couldn't help but love him by the end. He saved Faramir and Merry and took part in the battle before Mordor even if he did do a Bilbo and passed out before the end. So I think I'm going to have to go with Pippin.
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07-27-2005, 06:15 AM | #69 |
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I like bilbo he is smart and short like me
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08-03-2005, 12:58 AM | #70 |
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I say Frodo. Frodo was always my favorite Hobbit, though Merry comes very closely in second. I think It might be because Frodo has to go through so much sorrow and pain, or because Frodo seems to be isolated from the rest of the real world. He always seems to be in another place, he is alone. For some reason I really like that (not that he goes through pain, mind you). So I will pick Frodo....
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I'm afraid I must bring the ultimate punishment down on Samwise Gamgee for daring to challenge Bilbo.
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08-03-2005, 10:40 AM | #72 | |
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*flushes red and tears start to my eyes*
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08-03-2005, 11:00 AM | #73 |
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Bah!
Samwise is a cheat! How can you ask us to bring out quotes from the books? We all know that after Frodo departed, Samwise edited everything to present himself in a better light. He is, in actuality, a bumbling fool. And he is a fat hobbit, as well. How on earth does he stay fat, while Frodo withers away? He ate all the food! Bilbo is like Willy Wonka. Granted, I love Gene Wilder as Willy, but he's creepy. And so is Bilbo. And the whole butter over bread thing is just code for "I'm tired of this, time to pass on the burden to Frodo". And, he helped kill Smaug, my favorite character from The Hobbit. Frodo is a tragic hero. That instantly garners disrespect, because he couldn't be wise enough to, oh let's say, give the Ring to Boromir. Merry and Pippin both do horrible things. Merry helped out in the defeat of Wiki (he should have been burned at the stake for such a crime, seriously). Pippin is just...Pippin. Thus, I will vote for...Pippin. He neither killed Smaug (well, Bilbo helped), nor Wiki, nor Sauron. Last edited by CaptainofDespair; 08-03-2005 at 11:39 AM. |
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Very interesting arguments, Captain.
I've been considering this problem, TGWBS... Without Bilbo, Sam wouldn't have been what he was because he wouldn't have been told stories about the elves and things, wouldn't have learned his letters, and wouldn't have met with the upper class at all (Frodo, Merry, Pippin...). Without Sam, Frodo would have perished before he made it to Mordor. Without Frodo (or with Frodo perishing before making it to Mordor), the entire quest would have failed and everyone would have died or lived under slavery anyway and everything would have been in vain. How's that for reasoning? It accepts the three most important and argued over hobbits and...I doubt it will be the case, but it could end the fight. (I still think Sam's the best!)
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08-03-2005, 12:48 PM | #75 |
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I think we can let the Shire residents themselves answer who the best hobbit was. That would obviously be Sam. How many times was he elected to be mayor? Also in contrast to Bilbo he didn't have to buy friends. Truly the only reason that Frodo acted like he loved Bilbo was to get at his fortune. Speaking of Bilbo buying his friends I find it hilarious that he actually had a small fortune and he gave out much of it and yet wasn't liked one bit by most shire residents. At least, one would think, he could buy some yes men but nobody was even willing to do that.
By the end of his life he was so cynical that he couldn't even give out a gift properly. He had to attack some snide remark to every gift. What kind of person does that I ask you!
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08-03-2005, 01:30 PM | #76 |
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I like Pippin. Because... he's Pippin. ._.; He's just kind of weird & "doi doi whutdoaydooo". If you take my meaning. 9_9;
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08-03-2005, 02:08 PM | #77 |
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Folwren, you can read the letter in The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, which you can buy or borrow from your nearest library.
In any case, I've noticed the startling trend towards Pippin. I'm willing to ceasefire with mormegil and Folwren until an at least semi-respectable Hobbit is honoured with the position of "Favourite." *Casts dirty look in the direction of Pippin.* Expect some dirt soon... |
08-03-2005, 02:58 PM | #78 |
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And then there's Frodo, who has been losing this poll the whole way... come on, people, what's wrong with you!?
Seriously, here's why you should vote for Frodo: 1. He saved Middle-earth... 2. He resisted the power of the Ring all the way to Mt. Doom; not only that, he resisted the power of the Morgul Blade 17 whole days. 3. He could actually keep his wits about him in tight situations (think Bilbo in Gollum's cave... let's just give this dangerous creature our name and address, shall we? Think Sam at Heneth Annun - after all Frodo's careful talking: "he wanted the Enemy's Ring!") 4. Gandalf held him in the highest esteem. 5. Several hobbits held him in the highest esteem (Bilbo and Sam, not least! And the Gaffer, of course). 6. He's thoughtful, not wanting to take his friends into danger with him. 7. Frodo is clearly more popular - you never heard of anyone writing "Sam lives" or "Bilbo lives" or "Pippin lives" anywhere, have you? |
08-03-2005, 03:05 PM | #79 |
Maundering Mage
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Frodo...No no no. Sam my dear. Frodo was Middle-earth's biggest whiner. This whole thing about complaining about the weight of his "burden". I mean really how much can a silly ring weigh anyway? He wouldn't have made it anywhere without the help of others, Sam's in particular.
All-in-all I like Frodo more than Bilbo but not as much as dear old Samwise, Samwise the True, Samwise the faithful, Samwise the valiant etc...
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08-03-2005, 04:09 PM | #80 | |
Estelo dagnir, Melo ring
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Well, I've finally decided after many days of meditation.... I vote for Bilbo. And this is why:
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I dig the whole 'creepy old man' thing... And I have this thing for doors, and thus I feel a sense of kinship with scary old Bilbo... |
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