Cryptic Clues

[Morsul the Dark]

actually giant is a straight translation...and Im reffering to roadrunner as squatter pointed out not the rocks

[Turambar]

Quickbeam?

[Morsul the Dark]

yay you can go

[Turambar]

I suggest we again try to solve Squatter's last puzzle.

Worldly jewellery unsuitable for choral piece

I'll try some thinking aloud, and perhaps with a team effort we can solve this one:

1. The first difficulty is, what is the straight clue? Somehow I don't think that either worldly jewelry or choral piece is a straight clue, so maybe this is a rare cryptic clue without a "straight" part.

2. "Worldly" – Eä?

3. "Jewelry" inevitably suggests "ring" to me.

4. "Unsuitable" – ah, there's the rub. This must be a cryptic "pointer" of some kind, but what can it mean? "Unsuitable" means it doesn't fit. Could that mean that whatever "worldly jewelry" means, you shorten it before combining it with "choral piece"?

5. Finally, "choral piece" – probably means "CHOR", "CHO" or something like this.

Which gives us . . . WHAT, exactly? I thought of ECHORIATH, which has EARTH ("worldly"?) plus CHO ("choral piece"), but it doesn't fit with the rest.

Anyone else have an idea?

[NightKnight]

Actually, it fits quite well, since it's a "ring" of mountains, a very "earthly" ring.

[Turambar]

Hmmm - but what about "unsuitable"?

[Morsul the Dark]

actually is there perhaps another name for that? I mean maybe its "unsuitable for you to have that particular answer i mean...it could be that but another name for it?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

There's some impressive thinking going on there. Unfortunately it's leading in entirely the wrong direction. I'll lend a hand by telling you that 'choral piece' doesn't refer to a portion of the word 'choral', and that 'echoriath' isn't the answer. Turambar's suggestions regarding 'worldly' and 'jewellery' are on the money, though. 'Unsuitable' carries on the jewellery metaphor, but the answer I'm looking for certainly wasn't welcome. I'm looking for an obscure alternative description for something ubiquitous in the legendarium.

As I said earlier, the answer is quite close to Home.

[Mithalwen]

You mean we need to have read HoME?

[Turambar]

The fact that it's obscure makes me feel better.

"Ubiquitous in the Legendarium" would make a good name for a band.

EDIT: I think that "choral piece" may be the straight clue. A choral piece is a song or lay. I don't know any obscure alternative names, other than ann-thennath, which refers to a particular type of song.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Turambar

The fact that it's obscure makes me feel better.

"Ubiquitous in the Legendarium" would make a good name for a band.

Suddenly I have the feeling that English is not my first language...

[the phantom]

Turambar's suggestions regarding 'worldly' and 'jewellery' are on the money

Okay, and Turumbar's said-

2. "Worldly" – Eä?

3. "Jewelry" inevitably suggests "ring" to me.

Well- that certainly brings Morgoth's Ring to my mind, since it is the entire World made into a Ring.

[Celebrian]

How about Ring of Doom or Mahanaxar?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

The Phantom has extended his dominion by getting the right answer.

Worldly jewellery: all of Middle-earth was Morgoth's ring.
Unsuitable for choral piece: the marring of Arda implicit in making it into Morgoth's ring was unsuitable for the choral piece.

Close to home: Morgoth's Ring is the title of HoME X.

[the phantom]

Here's one that probably won't take as long to solve-

Sports Illustrated, The Foremost in League Coverage: Massachusetts rivulet and charged particle destroys team unity in Valinor.

[The Saucepan Man]

Silmarillion?

Sports Illustrated = SI
The Foremost in League Coverage = L
Massachusetts = Ma
rivulet = Rill
charged particle = Ion

The Silmarillion concerns the destruction of "team unity in Valinor".

[Turambar]

With those reasoning skills surely you could solve one of the remaining Password clues

[the phantom]

Perfect, Sauce.

Your turn.

[the phantom]

Either SPM is busy working on an absurdly difficult clue, or he is drawing a blank and is waiting for the ten day rule to save him.

[The Saucepan Man]

Neither. I forgot that it was my turn ...

In an effort to attract fresh blood to this thread, here's an absurdly easy one:

Swift ray is faster than most.

[Morsul the Dark]

SPM you're talking to us welll especially me since when have i got these right?

if its "absurdly easy" Ill go with the obvious choice:

Shadowfax

[Gothmog]

I'd say Quickbeam. Quick=faster than most, Beam= ray.

And if I'm supposed to guess anything right, it can't get harder than this I've red a few early clues here, and I'm truly impressed by you folks.

[The Saucepan Man]

Sorry Morsul, it's not Shadowfax, although that's a good guess.

In fact, Gothmog is correct with Quickbeam.

Well done, Gothmog. The thread's all yours.

[Morsul the Dark]

good job gothmog that actually was fairly i thought it was a horse though

[Gothmog]

Thank you Morsul!

Oh your supposed to come up with one of these now? Whoa, that's not easy. I've constructed one, but I don't know if it is too simple or impossible to guess... Well, I trust SpM, phantom & Co could figure out anything so here i go:

A long way for the friend is this clue

Remember this is my first time...

[Morsul the Dark]

a long way for the friend
the friend is sam so

he came a long way to mordor?

mordor?

that doesnt sound right at all

[Mithalwen]

mellon? Elvish for friend that was the clue to getting into Moria? But that doesn't explain the long way..

[Gothmog]

Good guesses but no. Mithalwen is on the right track...sort of. This might be harder than I expected now when I think about it. I wanted something challenging for the quiz-pros I've seen in action here. I'll wait a while longer before giving any hints I think.

I hope I did this the right way. It is more of a clue to the name than the person... Good luck to you!

P.S. OK, now you know it's a person. It just slipped me

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Is it Gimli (elf friend)?
he might have taken the straight road with Legolas.

[Gothmog]

Sorry, not Gimli either... As I said it's all about the name. And very cryptic

Is this to far-fetched I wonder. Well, hint's coming up on monday if nobody gets it before that.

[Gothmog]

Obviously this wasn't a good question. Well, here's a hint as promised. This was my original version (not posted):

A long way for the french friend is this clue

And if that's not good enough, I'll have to find some more clues... But as I said, it's a clue to the name of the person, not the person itself.

[The Saucepan Man]

A long way = far
french friend = ami (if my very rusty French serves me correctly)

Is it Faramir?

[Gothmog]

Brilliant guessing and yes, that is most correct. I'll try to do a better one next time, was in a bit of a hurry...sorry.

The thread is all yours, SpM!

[Gothmog]

A small BUMP! to SpM. I'm looking forward to something new to figure out! I'd like to keep this confusing thread alive!

[Morsul the Dark]

Uh 10 day rule i guess.....

Jaws that decieve and make leprecans dance

this is pretty simple but its a fun clue to say

[Morsul the Dark]

does no one have any ideas or does no one care? if its the first tell me ill give a clue

[Gothmog]

I've given it some thought, but have no idea. But on the other hand, I'm not too good at these. Wild guessing isn't usually my way to tackle a problem like this.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

What is leprecans ?¨

I will guess allthough I dont understand that word.

Saruman ?

[Morsul the Dark]

Wild guessing isn't usually my way to tackle a problem like this

should have tried it Rhune got it

Jaws: jaws is a shark sharki

leprecaNS ARE LITTLE IRISH GUYS THAT LOVE GOLD AND RAINBOWS(SARUMAN OF MANY COLORS) AND DECIEVE IS THE STRAIGHT CLUE GO AHEAD

oops hit caps lock but too lazy to retype it in lowercase

Rhune go ahead

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

This might be difficult.

an explorers home on the sea