Who Am I?

[Elrond of Rivendell]

Yes, you are also close.
Now you have to combine the idea of "Ulmo" with your idea of "music/sound". Good luck! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

EfR

[Samwise]

No clue no clue no clue....

Bilbo singing his last song when he sailed to the west??

[Elrond of Rivendell]

No.
Hint: Don't come up with new persons.
All you need has already been said.

Ulmo by my work can be heard,
fills hearts with joy - but mind!
never stays a longing despair behind.

Extra hint: What did I do for Ulmo? ... Well ... something out of white shell [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

EfR

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 6:42 PM January 19, 2004: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ]

[Gil-Galad]

i'ma guess Elwing

[Elrond of Rivendell]

No, not Elwing.

[Samwise]

someone like a special bard of Ulmo's or something? That used a white shell as an instrument? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

[Elrond of Rivendell]

Yes, you come very very close Samwise. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
It was an instrument made out of white shell for Ulmo. I would like to have the name of its maker. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Additional hint: The name is mentioned in The Silmarillion, but not in the Valaquenta.

EfR

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 7:34 PM January 20, 2004: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ]

[Celegorm]

The Ulumúri have been made by Salmar, but symestreem allready answered that two days ago:

Salmar made the horns of Ulmo, so I'm going to say it's him.

[Elrond of Rivendell]

Mmhmm ... what can I do now ... leave the board and never come back ? ... I am so sorry symestreem, but I must have overlooked your post. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

The thread is yours, of course.

Greetings,
EfR

Many thanks to Celegorm for insisting. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
And apologies to all those who kept on guessing when the answer was already given.

[symestreem]

That's quite alright, Master Elrond. Please don't leave the board! Your puzzles would be missed.

Here we are:

Steward's friend, friend of kings,
Mixed up in all the rings and things.
I was a prince of old
swift and bold.

I know the last line sounds stupid (if the whole thing sounds stupid, please don't enlighten me), but it makes a sort of sense. If this seems too much like a cryptic clue, I'm sorry. Also, name the steward if you can.

[Elrond of Rivendell]

Well, I suppose I couldn't have left, even had I wanted to. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

So here is my first guess:

The Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth?
He was a friend of Faramir and of Elessar Telcontar.

EfR

[Finwe]

Boromir? Denethor?

[Gil-Galad]

Aragorn was friend of Echthelion II of Gondor and of Thengel of Rohan, of course he got mixed up in the rings, he was still a prince at the age of 87 or something, and was swift and bold

[Samwise]

Hm. Don't know why, the first part reminds me of Gandalf...and the second...Isildur?

[Gil-Galad]

I don't think that Gandalf was really friend of stewards, after seeing Denethors reaction to him

[symestreem]

It is none of these. The steward in question is not Denethor, and it is not the person per se who is swift. It is something relating to him.

[Estanesse]

Elrond descended from the high king of the Noldor. Friend of Gandalf who is a steward and Isildur a king.
The swift part doesn’t fit very well, but you never know. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[symestreem]

You're getting closer. The steward is not your typical steward, nor is the prince your typical prince (he is not the heir to any throne). However, the kings are your typical kings.

[Finwe]

Could it be Pippin?

Gandalf was described as a steward, and Pippin is definitely his friend.
Pippin was indeed an extraordinary man (another definition of "prince") and was called Ernil i Pheriannath ("Prince of the Halflings") in Gondor, effectively making him a "Prince."
He was definitely mixed up in the War of the Rings.
He was also swift and bold in rescuing Faramir and realizing that he would have to defy the orders of Denethor to do so.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:52 PM January 23, 2004: Message edited by: Finwe ]

[Celegorm]

Since Finwe said, Gandalf was described as a steward, I got a new idea:

Shadowfax!?
He is a friend of Gandalf and "belongs" to Theoden. He is a heir of the great Horses of old.

[symestreem]

Finwe is correct. It is Pippin; the "swift" part was actually a play on the word Peregrin, since the peregrine falcon is swift indeed.

[Finwe]

Ha, ok.



Old am I,
An enigma am I,
Oldest,
Without a parent,
Yet light-hearted am I,
and singer am I.

[Samwise]

Tom Bombadil?

[Eorl of Rohan]

Yeah, either Tom Bombadil or Treebeard, though since he sings it's Bombadil by my opinion

[Finwe]

Samwise got it. Tom Bombadil it is.

[Samwise]

Really?? Okay, a new riddle....hm...

One of thirteen,
surprising, the locks
one of a key to a future
that many may believe has ceased.

Eeep...hope this is right....

[Eorl of Rohan]

I was too late on the last easy puzzle, but I'll get this one, by Illuvatar!

[Eorl of Rohan]

thirteen, thirteen, what does that remind me of? The number of dwarves who went with Bilbo, if I recall Hobbit? And there was this map and key of Thorin.

I don't have much hope on this one, but is it Thorin?

One of thirteen,
surprising, the locks
one of a key to a future
that many may believe has ceased.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:18 AM January 28, 2004: Message edited by: Eorl of Rohan ]

[Samwise]

Nope....

[Eorl of Rohan]

I knew it. Can you at least tell us where it is from? What book? Becuase I'm going to have no idea if it's from lays of Bereliland

[Samwise]

Well, this should make it easy, but I can never think of hard things...it's from Return of the King.

[Eorl of Rohan]

locks - that brings only two things to my mind. Galadriel's locks of hair - and the paths of the dead, where there is a locked door that someone could not unlock.


Am I just stupid or am I ignorant? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Probably both.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 12:35 AM January 28, 2004: Message edited by: Eorl of Rohan ]

[Samwise]

Mmm...no, but the person is female.

I have to get off, but I'll be back on tomorrow. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[Eorl of Rohan]

That settles it. There are only very few female characters of note -

Eowyn, Arwen Evenstar, Ioreth the healer...

It must be Eowyn. It must be. But why?

Must Be Eowyn? Why? Is there anything in her with "13" on it?

[Eorl of Rohan]

The problem is the the first two lines I cannot understand, and last two lines cane be either eowyn and Ioreth.

Eowyn, becuase it is foltold that no man would kill the witch king and she did. And also.

Ioreth, who said that The hand of a king is a hand of a healer and so the rightful heir will be known.

What beats me is the word thirteen.

[Evisse the Blue]

My guess would be Goldilocks, Sam and Rosie's daughter.

One of thirteen, - Sam and Rosie had 13 children
surprising, the locks - the fact that she had golden locks was a surprise to hobbits
one of a key to a future
that many may believe has ceased - hint to the fact that hobbits still exist, but are very good at hiding from the Big Folk? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 8:38 AM January 28, 2004: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ]

[Gil-Galad]

Too me its Beren, Warden of the keys

One of thirteen,-the first Beren, which was where he took hsi name from was with his father and other men as "outlaws" or dorthonion
surprising, the locks-warden of the keys
one of a key to a future-gaves keys to saruman
that many may believe has ceased.-saruman was no longed ally?

i have a strange feeling that this Beren was a female

[Samwise]

Bravo, Evisse the Blue !! Correct on all counts! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Pray proceed! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[Evisse the Blue]

whoa, uncanny. I'm usually so bad at guessing these riddles. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I'll have to ask you to bear with me for a couple of days, till I think of the next one: it's exam period for me; but I won't let that get in the way of coming up with a new riddle asap! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]