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Urwen · 05-13-2019, 07:23 AM

Or maybe places connected to the Battle of Five Armies in some fashion?

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 07:29 AM

And for 6, River Running (RN RN RN + GIVE + UI, like you said)

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 07:34 AM

Theme: People/Places in the Kingdom of Dale

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 07:52 AM

I found a term for banker which is close to UNDOMIEL: MONEY LENDER

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

And for 6, River Running (RN RN RN + GIVE + UI, like you said)

Ruddy heck! That's a clever clue.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

And for 6, River Running (RN RN RN + GIVE + UI, like you said)
7 is Elvenking's halls (KELVIN + GENS + HALLS)

Yep!

1: WITHERED HEATH
2 ???I???: Here you'll find the bewildered spokesman for the heads of failed enterprises.
3: LONELY MOUNTAIN
4 ???D???: Here they confuse Arwen with a banker
5: ESGAROTH
6: RIVER RUNNING
7: ELVENKING'S HALLS
8: LAKETOWN
9: BEORN
10: DALE

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Ruddy heck! That's a clever clue.

I had hoped that using "3" rather than "three" would have been a tipoff.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

I found a term for banker which is close to UNDOMIEL: MONEY LENDER

You're getting closer, but it isn't Undomiel.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

You're getting closer, but it isn't Undomiel.

Then if it isn't Undomiel, and it isn't Evenstar either, then what is it?!

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Then if it isn't Undomiel, and it isn't Evenstar either, then what is it?!

"Here." It's a place, not a person. Arwen is just part of the clue.

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 08:41 AM

How about a riverbank - a river for the banker?

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

"Here." It's a place, not a person. Arwen is just part of the clue.

Yeah, but you said that the final answer doesn't contain either Undomiel or Evenstar (you dismissed the second option when you said it isn't 'investor'.)

That leaves only ARWEN as possible part of the clue, and I've tried all places that contain that. None of those contains any letters needed for synonym of 'banker'.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 08:47 AM

Places which contain 'arwen': Woodland Realm. Remove 'arwen' and you're left with

O O D L D A L M

Now do tell, which is the synonym of banker that also exists within these letters?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 09:15 AM

Who sez "Arwen" is part of the final answer?

Go back to LENDER and see what you can do with it

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 09:17 AM

[completely OT: why won't the forum software accept ANY custom avatar I try to upload? Yes, it's well within size limits]

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

Who sez "Arwen" is part of the final answer?

Go back to LENDER and see what you can do with it

But you said that Arwen is part of the clue.....

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

But you said that Arwen is part of the clue.....

It is, but that doesn't mean the letters A R W E N....

Again, if you play with LENDER you'll probably get the answer, and then see how Arwen ties in.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

It is, but that doesn't mean the letters A R W E N....

So you mean only the letters LENDER are part of the puzzle?

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 09:46 AM

Okay, I will try some anagrams of lender.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 09:51 AM

Elenarda, maybe (A LENDER + AR, from ARWEN)

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 09:54 AM

Come on, stick with the password. And LENDER doesn't give you all the letters, just 6 of them.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 10:03 AM

But it is some form of AR+LENDER, right?

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 10:15 AM

Right, so I took all five places containing 'lender' and I removed the word 'lender from them', and these letters are what I was left with

S O A T I O O F T H D A G O N
S O A T I O O F T H O R A N N O N
F I O F C E L B A T
G A D R I V E
T A U E D O S

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Right, so I took all five places containing 'lender' and I removed the word 'lender from them', and these letters are what I was left with

S O A T I O O F T H D A G O N
S O A T I O O F T H O R A N N O N
F I O F C E L B A T
G A D R I V E
T A U E D O S

You overlooked one.

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

You overlooked one.

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Category:Rhovanion

Do you see one, apart from these five when you click that link?

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 12:25 PM

Unless you mean Wilderland itself (If we switch A to E, we get LENDER, plus something extra).

Maybe the clue simply means to swap A with E (or vice versa), in which case, a few possibilities open themselves up.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 12:50 PM

Oh, okay. the theme is actually "names found on the Wilderland Map from The Hobbit"

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 01:00 PM

Rivendell (LIV + LENDER)

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 01:27 PM

Which means the last one is The Desolation of Smaug

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Rivendell (LIV + LENDER)

Got it!

1: WITHERED HEATH
2 ???I???: Here you'll find the bewildered spokesman for the heads of failed enterprises.
3: LONELY MOUNTAIN
4: RIVENDELL
5: ESGAROTH
6: RIVER RUNNING
7: ELVENKING'S HALLS
8: LAKETOWN
9: BEORN
10: DALE

---------------

DoS is way off.

What are the heads of FAILED and ENTERPRISES?

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 01:53 PM

And this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Which means the last one is The Desolation of Smaug

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

What are the heads of FAILED and ENTERPRISES?

F and E?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

F and E?

And FE can mean....?

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 02:31 PM

Oh, you mean Iron Hills?

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-13-2019, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Oh, you mean Iron Hills?

SHILL + Fe = IRON HILLS

1: WITHERED HEATH
2: IRON HILLS
3: LONELY MOUNTAIN
4: RIVENDELL
5: ESGAROTH
6: RIVER RUNNING
7: ELVENKING'S HALLS
8: LAKETOWN
9: BEORN
10: DALE

Over to you!

Urwen · 05-13-2019, 03:36 PM

I've prepared this one in advance.

1. In turmoil, goals meet endless direction, for him
2. A tree? Nay! Spin it for her.
3. A disturbed distant number for him
4. Mix a drink with a direction for him
5. A Monopoly square inside of a favor for him
6. Chase an element and a note in circles for a songstress
7. A fish and a triple direction combine for her that was lost
8. A geek and a winding street combine for her
9. An organized crime group and a double direction circulate for him
10. A pronoun within a bloomer for her

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 04:12 PM

Ah, looked up 'shill.' It's North American slang.

See, it's not only me that does it!

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 04:22 PM

8. NERDANEL.

NERD plus 'winding' LANE.

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 04:24 PM

9. Faramir.

Mafia + r + r.

Pervinca Took · 05-13-2019, 04:29 PM

7. Less confident here, but I'll try ELENWE.

EEL + N + W + E.

05-13-2019, 07:23 AM	#5721
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Or maybe places connected to the Battle of Five Armies in some fashion? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 07:29 AM	#5722
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	And for 6, River Running (RN RN RN + GIVE + UI, like you said) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 07:34 AM	#5723
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Theme: People/Places in the Kingdom of Dale __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 07:52 AM	#5724
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	I found a term for banker which is close to UNDOMIEL: MONEY LENDER __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 08:41 AM	#5731
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	How about a riverbank - a river for the banker? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-13-2019, 08:47 AM	#5733
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Places which contain 'arwen': Woodland Realm. Remove 'arwen' and you're left with O O D L D A L M Now do tell, which is the synonym of banker that also exists within these letters? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 09:15 AM	#5734
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,321	Who sez "Arwen" is part of the final answer? Go back to LENDER and see what you can do with it __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-13-2019, 09:17 AM	#5735
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,321	[completely OT: why won't the forum software accept ANY custom avatar I try to upload? Yes, it's well within size limits] __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-13-2019, 09:46 AM	#5739
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Okay, I will try some anagrams of lender. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 09:51 AM	#5740
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Elenarda, maybe (A LENDER + AR, from ARWEN) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 09:54 AM	#5741
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,321	Come on, stick with the password. And LENDER doesn't give you all the letters, just 6 of them. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-13-2019, 10:03 AM	#5742
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	But it is some form of AR+LENDER, right? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 10:15 AM	#5743
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Right, so I took all five places containing 'lender' and I removed the word 'lender from them', and these letters are what I was left with S O A T I O O F T H D A G O N S O A T I O O F T H O R A N N O N F I O F C E L B A T G A D R I V E T A U E D O S __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 12:25 PM	#5746
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Unless you mean Wilderland itself (If we switch A to E, we get LENDER, plus something extra). Maybe the clue simply means to swap A with E (or vice versa), in which case, a few possibilities open themselves up. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 12:50 PM	#5747
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,321	Oh, okay. the theme is actually "names found on the Wilderland Map from The Hobbit" __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-13-2019, 01:00 PM	#5748
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Rivendell (LIV + LENDER) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 01:27 PM	#5749
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Which means the last one is The Desolation of Smaug __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 02:31 PM	#5754
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Oh, you mean Iron Hills? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 03:36 PM	#5756
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	I've prepared this one in advance. 1. In turmoil, goals meet endless direction, for him 2. A tree? Nay! Spin it for her. 3. A disturbed distant number for him 4. Mix a drink with a direction for him 5. A Monopoly square inside of a favor for him 6. Chase an element and a note in circles for a songstress 7. A fish and a triple direction combine for her that was lost 8. A geek and a winding street combine for her 9. An organized crime group and a double direction circulate for him 10. A pronoun within a bloomer for her __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-13-2019, 04:12 PM	#5757
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Ah, looked up 'shill.' It's North American slang. See, it's not only me that does it! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-13-2019, 04:22 PM	#5758
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	8. NERDANEL. NERD plus 'winding' LANE. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-13-2019, 04:24 PM	#5759
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	9. Faramir. Mafia + r + r. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-13-2019, 04:29 PM	#5760
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	7. Less confident here, but I'll try ELENWE. EEL + N + W + E. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

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