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Old 05-10-2019, 10:44 AM   #5521
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those two clues are a) Biblical and b) musical
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:45 AM   #5522
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1. Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend
2. Get out? Nein! He's backwards!
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there.
4. Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!"
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:51 AM   #5523
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Challah and rugelach are Jewish pastries mentioned in the bible.
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Bilhah was Rachel's handmaid.
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:53 AM   #5525
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Bilhah was Rachel's handmaid.
You're at least heading in the right direction.......
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And 440 seems to be A.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:03 AM   #5527
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Hagar was Sarai's handmaid.

The biblical term often means concubine.

And 'pilegesh' is the Hebrew word for concubine.
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Balcmeg does contain BAGEL, but I doubt CM satisfies the remaining clues....
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Based on Pervinca's reasoning, Grishnakh?
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Or Shagrat, whose name contains HAGAR.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:14 AM   #5531
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Based on Pervinca's reasoning, Grishnakh?

DING DING DING!

HAGAR + KNISH - A

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend
2. Get out? Nein! He's backwards!
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there.
4. Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!"
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last
7. Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. He's a dunce on one side

FWIW, I believe to the best of my knowledge that these 8 individuals are the only characters in Tolkien who fit this pattern
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:16 AM   #5532
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I still don't see the theme. As far as I know, those four have nothing in common......
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:19 AM   #5533
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I'm intrigued by 440 ... it's 'page not found,' isn't it? How is it also A?
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Maybe the password is Halfhand, or Hurthand. Because.....all of their hands were hurt or lost.....
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I'm intrigued by 440 ... it's 'page not found,' isn't it? How is it also A?

440 is A in music terms.....
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I'm intrigued by 440 ... it's 'page not found,' isn't it? How is it also A?

standard tuning A is 440 Hertz
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Maybe the password is.... Hurthand. Because.....all of their hands were hurt or lost.....
BOOM goes the dynamite!

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend
2. ???U???: Get out? Nein! He's backwards!
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there.
4. ???T???Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!"
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last
7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
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Is it that they lose a body part? Did Grishnakh end up losing his head?
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Ah ... ok!
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BOOM goes the dynamite!

What does that mean....?
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One of them has to be Frodo, then.
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Nein is German for no. Isildur cut off Sauron's hand

2. Sauron?
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Maybe another is Isildur ... he wrote that the Ring was so hot that he doubted he would ever be free of the pain of it.

And I think Gollum said 'O my poor hands!' when remembering his torture.

And Isildur cut off one of Sauron's fingers.
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2 NO + RAUS, backwards

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side


It's also the case that all these characters were trying to obtain a Super Important Bit of Bling, but that class includes far more people
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Nein is German for no. Isildur cut off Sauron's hand

2. Sauron?
And 'Raus! means 'Get out!'
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8. Isildur? (I as roman numeral for 1, IS for is)
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7 must be either Dernhelm or Merry, who injured their hand fighting the Witch King. I believe that one of the essential crew activities is minding the helm.....


and 'DERN' sounds like 'TURN'.
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'Dur' as a sarcastic thing to say, implying someone is stupid?
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2 NO + RAUS, backwards

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side


It's also the case that all these characters were trying to obtain a Super Important Bit of Bling, but that class includes far more people
Sauron had the Bling already ... but not for long.
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Merry and Eowyn had their arms injured, not their hands.
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I don't know whether Silmarils count as blings.
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What about Isildur?
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The whole theme was inspired by a wisecrack I once read, and used as my sig line here for a while: "Tolkien's writing is concerned primarily with disputes over the ownership of jewelry, and the hand injuries that occur as a result."

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Morgoth's hands were also burned, and he fits w/bluetooth clue as well, but he was rejected as the solution for that clue.
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I don't know whether Silmarils count as blings.
Hey, that Iron Crown was one heck of a flashy fashion statement!
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But....speaking of hurt hands, my own signature comes to mind...
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Morgoth... fits w/bluetooth clue as well
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Um, no. What the heck is a gorm?
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How about Frodo as 8?
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You're going to have to solve clues, not just toss names out!
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Frodo ... frod means wise, but the O on the other side of the red D could mean ... nothing?
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