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Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-22-2006, 02:21 AM

Did it involve Men of the House of Hador?

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-22-2006, 06:55 AM

Was it the hunting and death of Carcharoth by Thingol and his warriors, and Huan? #15
No.

Does it happen at Menegroth? #16
No.

Nauglimir was involved? #17
No.

Did it involve Men of the House of Hador? #18
No.

Firefoot · 02-22-2006, 04:33 PM

Does it happen in Doriath at all?

Meneltarmacil · 02-22-2006, 05:25 PM

Was there any violence involved?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-22-2006, 06:05 PM

Did it involve Lúthien?

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-23-2006, 07:08 AM

Does it happen in Doriath at all? # 17
Yes.

Was there any violence involved? # 18
No.

Did it involve Lúthien? # 19
No. But she certainly could be said to
have an interest in the event.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-24-2006, 02:00 AM

Hmmm . . . was it Daeron spilling the beans to Thingol?

If not, did it involve Daeron at all?

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-24-2006, 09:14 AM

Hmmm . . . was it Daeron spilling the beans to Thingol?
No.

If not, did it involve Daeron at all?
No.

NightKnight · 02-24-2006, 11:46 AM

Beren entering Doriath?

Gil-Galad · 02-24-2006, 07:05 PM

After the Death of Thingol?

Elu Ancalime · 02-24-2006, 07:21 PM

Was it...the Sack?
________
YA-1

Firefoot · 02-24-2006, 10:15 PM

Is it something that someone said/declared/decided etc.?

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-25-2006, 09:34 AM

Beren entering Doriath?
No.

After the Death of Thingol?
No.

Was it...the Sack?
?

Is it something that someone said/declared/decided etc.?
Yes. It's something someone spoke aloud.

Gil-Galad · 02-25-2006, 10:13 AM

During the Feast where tensions between Daeron and Turin exploded out in front of the king?

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-25-2006, 01:07 PM

During the Feast where tensions between Daeron and Turin exploded out in front of the king?
No.

Hint: The event in question takes place outside of Doriath,
and while not violent in itself, its outcome leads to violence.

Firefoot · 02-25-2006, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Does it happen in Doriath at all? # 17
Yes.
...
Hint: The event in question takes place outside of Doriath

Does Thingol say it?

Elu Ancalime · 02-26-2006, 08:14 PM

Is it Luthien escaping from that big tree Thingol put her in?

(I meant the Sack of Doriath, but thats wrong I guess)
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Tuor in Gondolin · 02-27-2006, 10:03 AM

Does Thingol say it?
No, but an elf does.

Is it Luthien escaping from that big tree Thingol put her in?

(I meant the Sack of Doriath, but thats wrong I guess)
That's correct. It's before the sack of Doriath.

Elu Ancalime · 02-27-2006, 12:17 PM

Sweeet.
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Portable Vaporizer

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-27-2006, 11:32 PM

First Age?

Firefoot · 02-28-2006, 06:14 AM

Third Age?

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-28-2006, 06:41 AM

First Age?
Yes.

Third Age?
No.

Perhaps part of an earlier answer will help. The event occurred
between:

The Dagor Bargollach--- F.A. 465

The Year of Lamentation F.A. 472.

Gil-Galad · 02-28-2006, 05:48 PM

so its an event?

an event that help evil?

Firefoot · 02-28-2006, 08:53 PM

I'm still confused about whether it actually happens in Doriath or not.

Does Beleg say it?

Gil-Galad · 02-28-2006, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefoot

I'm still confused about whether it actually happens in Doriath or not.

Does Beleg say it?

were on a new question there dear firefoot

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 03:00 AM

Did it happen in West Beleriand?

Firefoot · 03-01-2006, 06:36 AM

Quote:

were on a new question there dear firefoot

That's what I thought too, but Tuor is still answering questions, so apparently not...

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 06:44 AM

Didn't notice that . . . thanks, Firefoot.

Hmmm . . . is it in TS77's Of Beren and Lúthien?

Tuor of Gondolin · 03-01-2006, 07:13 AM

so its an event?

an event that help evil?
The outcome of the event was a victory for evil.
So I guess the answer is yes.

I'm still confused about whether it actually happens in Doriath or not.

Does Beleg say it?
Does not happen in Doriath.
Beleg does not say it.

Did it happen in West Beleriand?
Yes.

Hmmm . . . is it in TS77's Of Beren and Lúthien?
Yes. A partial version of it.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 07:25 AM

Was the Elf who said it named?

Tuor of Gondolin · 03-01-2006, 08:12 AM

Was the Elf who said it named?
Yes! Especially since he was a speaker.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 08:35 AM

Said by Edrahil?

Oath to Finrod (or something like that)?

Tuor of Gondolin · 03-01-2006, 08:49 AM

Said by Edrahil? No.

Oath to Finrod (or something like that)?
No. But you're getting somewhat warmer.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 08:58 AM

Finrod's singing against Sauron, then?

Tuor of Gondolin · 03-01-2006, 09:03 AM

Finrod's singing against Sauron, then?
Yes! Your turn.

I decided on that after listening to some old
audio tapes I have, most of JRRT reciting
bits of his works, but also of CT doing excerpts
of Beren and Luthien, which is more extensive
concerning the Sauron/Finrod singing duel
then in The Silmarillion, since it gives more
of Finrod Felagund's bit. Btw, I think JRRT
is a better speaker then CT. It's curious
JRRT was rather defensive about his speaking.
It seems quite clear.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 09:19 AM

Ask away!

Gil-Galad · 03-01-2006, 05:35 PM

Living?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 06:14 PM

Living? Yes.

Elu Ancalime · 03-01-2006, 06:24 PM

It it one of the Children of Illuvatar?
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Edsel Villager

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-01-2006, 06:28 PM

It it one of the Children of Illuvatar? No.

02-22-2006, 02:21 AM	#4641
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02-22-2006, 06:55 AM	#4642
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Was it the hunting and death of Carcharoth by Thingol and his warriors, and Huan? #15 No. Does it happen at Menegroth? #16 No. Nauglimir was involved? #17 No. Did it involve Men of the House of Hador? #18 No. __________________ Aure Entuluva! Last edited by Tuor of Gondolin; 02-22-2006 at 07:02 AM.

02-22-2006, 05:25 PM	#4644
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Was there any violence involved? __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

02-22-2006, 06:05 PM	#4645
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Did it involve Lúthien? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-23-2006, 07:08 AM	#4646
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Does it happen in Doriath at all? # 17 Yes. Was there any violence involved? # 18 No. Did it involve Lúthien? # 19 No. But she certainly could be said to have an interest in the event. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-22-2006, 04:33 PM	#4643
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Does it happen in Doriath at all?

02-24-2006, 02:00 AM	#4647
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Hmmm . . . was it Daeron spilling the beans to Thingol? If not, did it involve Daeron at all? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-24-2006, 09:14 AM	#4648
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Hmmm . . . was it Daeron spilling the beans to Thingol? No. If not, did it involve Daeron at all? No. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-24-2006, 11:46 AM	#4649
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Beren entering Doriath? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-24-2006, 07:05 PM	#4650
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	After the Death of Thingol? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-24-2006, 07:21 PM	#4651
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	Was it...the Sack? ________ YA-1 Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 11:13 PM.

02-24-2006, 10:15 PM	#4652
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Is it something that someone said/declared/decided etc.?

02-25-2006, 09:34 AM	#4653
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Beren entering Doriath? No. After the Death of Thingol? No. Was it...the Sack? ? Is it something that someone said/declared/decided etc.? Yes. It's something someone spoke aloud. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-25-2006, 10:13 AM	#4654
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	During the Feast where tensions between Daeron and Turin exploded out in front of the king? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-25-2006, 01:07 PM	#4655
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	During the Feast where tensions between Daeron and Turin exploded out in front of the king? No. Hint: The event in question takes place outside of Doriath, and while not violent in itself, its outcome leads to violence. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-26-2006, 08:14 PM	#4657
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	Is it Luthien escaping from that big tree Thingol put her in? (I meant the Sack of Doriath, but thats wrong I guess) ________ Glass Bongs Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 11:14 PM.

02-27-2006, 10:03 AM	#4658
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Does Thingol say it? No, but an elf does. Is it Luthien escaping from that big tree Thingol put her in? (I meant the Sack of Doriath, but thats wrong I guess) That's correct. It's before the sack of Doriath. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-27-2006, 12:17 PM	#4659
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	Sweeet. ________ Portable Vaporizer Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 11:15 PM.

02-27-2006, 11:32 PM	#4660
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Sweeet! First Age? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-28-2006, 06:14 AM	#4661
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Third Age?

02-28-2006, 06:41 AM	#4662
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	First Age? Yes. Third Age? No. Perhaps part of an earlier answer will help. The event occurred between: The Dagor Bargollach--- F.A. 465 The Year of Lamentation F.A. 472. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-28-2006, 05:48 PM	#4663
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	so its an event? an event that help evil? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

02-28-2006, 08:53 PM	#4664
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	I'm still confused about whether it actually happens in Doriath or not. Does Beleg say it?

03-01-2006, 03:00 AM	#4666
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Did it happen in West Beleriand? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-01-2006, 06:44 AM	#4668
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	D'oh! Didn't notice that . . . thanks, Firefoot. Hmmm . . . is it in TS77's Of Beren and Lúthien? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-01-2006, 07:13 AM	#4669
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	so its an event? an event that help evil? The outcome of the event was a victory for evil. So I guess the answer is yes. I'm still confused about whether it actually happens in Doriath or not. Does Beleg say it? Does not happen in Doriath. Beleg does not say it. Did it happen in West Beleriand? Yes. Hmmm . . . is it in TS77's Of Beren and Lúthien? Yes. A partial version of it. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

03-01-2006, 07:25 AM	#4670
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Was the Elf who said it named? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-01-2006, 08:12 AM	#4671
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Was the Elf who said it named? Yes! Especially since he was a speaker. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

03-01-2006, 08:35 AM	#4672
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Well, it could be an anonymous speaker . . . Said by Edrahil? Oath to Finrod (or something like that)? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-01-2006, 08:49 AM	#4673
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Said by Edrahil? No. Oath to Finrod (or something like that)? No. But you're getting somewhat warmer. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

03-01-2006, 08:58 AM	#4674
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Cool! Finrod's singing against Sauron, then? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-01-2006, 09:03 AM	#4675
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Finrod's singing against Sauron, then? Yes! Your turn. I decided on that after listening to some old audio tapes I have, most of JRRT reciting bits of his works, but also of CT doing excerpts of Beren and Luthien, which is more extensive concerning the Sauron/Finrod singing duel then in The Silmarillion, since it gives more of Finrod Felagund's bit. Btw, I think JRRT is a better speaker then CT. It's curious JRRT was rather defensive about his speaking. It seems quite clear. __________________ Aure Entuluva! Last edited by Tuor of Gondolin; 03-01-2006 at 09:07 AM.

03-01-2006, 09:19 AM	#4676
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Sweet! Ask away! __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-01-2006, 05:35 PM	#4677
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Living? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-01-2006, 06:14 PM	#4678
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Living? Yes. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...