In the Shadow of the Star: Discussion Thread (Part 1)

[Child of the 7th Age]

I like it! thank you.

Regarding the family that's still lost, see my most recent post and my e-mail.

sharon

[piosenniel]

Gandalf and theWhiteLady

Please check your PM's and have fun on the ride back to The Green Dragon!

[Gandalf_theGrey]

NOTE #1:

I've filled in my SAVE from page 6, March 15, 2002 at 2:04 AM.

NOTE #2:

It will be good to be posting together again with you, theWhiteLady! Well met. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

NOTE #3:

Indeed we will, piosenniel! Thanks!

At your Service,

Gandalf the Grey

[piosenniel]

"Well now, ever since that Entdraught in Fangorn Forest I'm nearly as large as a pony. But if I'm to carry Rose all that way, I draw the line at wearing a saddle."

Funny! Well done post, Gandalf! Glad you're on board with us!

*slips into her white shoes and heads for work . . . sigh . . .

[mark12_30]

Sharon, Frodo has spoken his mind in the post of March 14, 2003 08:10 PM. You recall Frodo's hesitancy about the big party list; I decided to play that up a bit. Let me know if there are any edits you'd like.

I suspect that Frodo will be chatting with Lindo in the barn before too many more days go by.

Regards, --the Thundering Herd of Hobbit-Lads (THOHL)

[Carrûn]

Frodo-lad's feeling a bit lost, what should he be doing right now?

[Child of the 7th Age]

Carrun,

There are two things coming up.

One is the dinner party where your mom will take you to see Amaranthas. You'll see Pio again and also meet Mithadan. He may interest you as he, like Pio, carries a number of interesting looking weapons.

You're welcome to think about the dinner coming up. And also of course to post once you get there.

I believe the kids may also be planning a shivaree for Cami andMaura. If you're not sure what that is, look it up!) So that will be coming soon. (Once you hear about it in the game, you could go searching your mother's cupboards for pots and pans.)

sharon

[piosenniel]

No, Pio will not be at the dinner party. Hopefully Mithadan will.

[piosenniel]

Carrûn

Please check your PM's

[Child of the 7th Age]

Pio

Sorry. Of course, you won't be back yet.

Helen

No, Bilbo is fine in the post. Just what we discussed.

sharon

[Child of the 7th Age]

I have filled in the post of 3/15 at 11:40 a.m. with Cami's lament for her children.

I do not know where this is leading. It does carry forward a theme that was spelled out clearly in the earliest post in Greenwood.

Speaking as the happy mother of two, I would find Cami's situation intolerable. Cami is also used to a very different model for families from her childhood in the Shire.

sharon

[ March 16, 2003: Message edited by: Child of the 7th Age ]

[Child of the 7th Age]

Helen,

Please see my pm. concerning Gamba's "fear" of Cami and her response.

sharon

[ March 16, 2003: Message edited by: Child of the 7th Age ]

[mark12_30]

Cami,

I sent you a PM about Gamba. --Helen

[ March 16, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ]

[piosenniel]

I want to clarify where we are Game time (Up to my save/post of March 16, 2003 05:53 AM)

Lotessë:

20th - dinner party at Inn for Bilbo & Frodo

21st - Frodo's walk, Mith is sprung, Cami reads Maura's letter

22nd - Maura arrives, Tol Fuin & Greenwood contingents arrive, fracas in the Inn yard, Pio head east/Merry comes west - they meet in Frogmorton, Bilbo goes to Amarantha's - Party to be "day after tomorrow"

23rd - Merry takes Rose to the Green Dragon,
Morning Vows, Amaranthas visits the Inn and then calls at Sam and roses to borrow Frodo-lad.

24th - Bachelor Party, Miz Rose and children go to Amaranthas' house

Once the party is done, there will be 6 days left to the month of Lotessë, then the 30 day month of Nárië begins - during which there will be a time compression in the storyline to get us to Loendë (Midyear's Day) and the birth of the twins.

[ March 16, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

[piosenniel]

Auriel

Stoat sounds like the reprehensible sort of person Pio would love to skewer!

Great intro post for the boss's toady!

[Child of the 7th Age]

"Well, I'm rather afraid to talk about this, because I'm quite confused, but I don't know what's going to happen to these children of Piosenniel's after... after Gondolin. I'm worried about them. Are you in a position to make sure they are taken care of?"

"I don’t know what you mean, " Frodo said, baffled.

Lindo took a deep breath. "I've been wanting to mention this to Maura, only I don't see what he could do any more than I; and he's been so busy, and I haven't wanted to interrupt his time with Nitir. Pio survived the fall of Gondolin, and escaped, and grew to maturity, and lived a full life. But Frodo, at some point-- and I don't know when, and you mustn't mention this to any of them, of course-- she will return to Gondolin, and she will fall in defense of Idril's household. And when that happens, I don't know how old these twins will be. I didn't hear about them at all during the two days when Nitir and her friends were in the city with us. In fact I didn't know she had ever married or had any children."

Helen, I am sorry, but I don't understand. We know that Pio is in the 12th year of the Fourth Age, past the point when she would start out on the Star and return to Gondolin.

Are you saying in your last post that Lindo is confused about the timeline, and therefore doesn't realize that the voyage of the Star is in the past?

Even so, why would he ask Frodo to take care of the children, when Mithadan is their father?

Sorry I am confused.

sharon

[mark12_30]

Sharon,

references to Piosenniel have been removed.

[ March 17, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ]

[Child of the 7th Age]

Maura has responded to Gamba.

I needed to have some back and forth. If anything needs an edit, let me know.

Or if you don't like I will tear down, and try again tomorrow.

sharon

[Mithadan]

Play it as you wish, Mark 12_30. I am concerned that this is confusing those who were not part of the Star's prior voyage, so lets tie this up as simply and quickly as we can, I think.

[mark12_30]

It's good! Now you've got me curious.

[piosenniel]

Please don't discuss any more of my character's history in the storyline without consulting me.

I want to keep her part in this story focused on this small segment of present time which will include the marriage of Cami and Maura and the birth of her and Mithadan's twins.

[ March 17, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

[mark12_30]

References to Piosenniel have been removed.

[ March 17, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ]

[piosenniel]

Thank you.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Orual,

I did a brief post on dinner preparations at Bag-end. If you want me to change any of the part with Sam, I will do so.

Orual, Helen --If Sam or Frodo get a chance, please post and add in your two cents on dinner preparations. The dinner will be tomorrow evening (game time), with Frodo, Bilbo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin in attendence.

Maura definitely has other plans that have to do with Cami!

sharon

[mark12_30]

Something that's been puzzling me, Sharon--

My mother's neighbors did a "shivaree" when they were on their honeymoon at the cottage, banging pots and pans; and she cannot recall the event without a shudder of sheer revulsion and horror. She absolutely hated it.

(I've got to side with my mom-- I think I'd shoot someone who came banging pots and pans around my house.)

I take it you see this differently? was that the "good thing" Maura was trying to get Gamba interested in?

--puzzled

[Child of the 7th Age]

Cami grins.....

Ah, to each his own. Maura was quite sure Cami would love to have her boys organize such a thing! And this sort of gesture seems right up Gamba's alley.

It's done anytime in the first week. Night 2 or 3 sounds good to me.

No, I wouldn't want to have strangers doing this, but I honestly have fond memories of such a practice from my grad school buddies. (Even in grad school, medievalists had a reputation for being a little crazy.)

[Gandalf_theGrey]

Greetings all,

It having been St. Patrick's Day and with my also spending the evening following historic events unfold with the President's speech, I apologize for not being around Monday night to post. I look forward to remedying the situation by filling in my SAVE post Tuesday night.

And thank you for your kind words above, piosenniel!

* bows *

Merry, escort to Rose and tongue-tied poet [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] // aka Gandalf

[mark12_30]

All players of Hobbit-children, please send me a PM. THanks.

[mark12_30]

I think Bird found Pio around midnight and Gamba found her mid-morning the next day, so Bird's post & my post shouldn't be side by side. When some more posts fill in I can move mine out.

[Child of the 7th Age]

White Lady,

I am going to fill in a response to Rose's arrival at the Inn.

Go ahead and do whatever post you planned on doing. If any revisions or edits are needed, I will do that in my own post.

sharon

[Birdland]

My mother's neighbors did a "shivaree" when they were on their honeymoon at the cottage, banging pots and pans; and she cannot recall the event without a shudder of sheer revulsion and horror. She absolutely hated it.

Helen - though the origins may have been lost in the ages, the purpose of a "shivaree" was originally to salute the bridegroom in his quest to, uh - how do I put this delicately? - to "deflower" his bride. The banging of the pots and pans would usually be accompanied by shouted comments of a somewhat, er - hmmmmm - "bawdy nature".

No wonder you mother hated it!

[Gandalf_theGrey]

Just a note to let you all know that I've filled in my SAVE post from March 16, 2003 06:42 PM.

I'd been going to drop a Private Message as requested to theWhiteLady about this, but seeing as how she and Child of the 7th Age have already posted to the effect that Rose and Cami are now reunited at The Green Dragon, I assume the post on this thread will do. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gandalf the Grey

[Child of the 7th Age]

Bird --

Many traditional customs have that at the base. For example, the bride tossing the garter is an attempt to gentrify the older custom of the wedding guests literally stripping the clothes off the bride.

The garter was to act as a substitute. And, yes, Cami will indeed toss her garter in the public ceremony near the end of the game!

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Rose Goodchild's and Cami's posts of 3/18 at 7:23 am and 7:49 am. have been filled in. Also, Sam's and Bilbo's posts of 3/17 at 9:00 and ll:04 pm

Gandalf, that's fine. No problem.

sharon

[Child of the 7th Age]

Helen,

I always envisioned that Gandalf had outlined the entire voyage of the Star to Bilbo and Frodo, since they lived in the safety of the West.

It sounds from your post as if Bilbo knows but Frodo doesn't. Assuming this to be true, Bilbo would have told Frodo the truth abou anything he asked, unless he'd been specifically told not to do that. If that was the case--if Bilbo was told not to disclose anything, he would simply say so to Frodo, "I can't discuss that," rather than dissembling. Or perhaps I've read this post wrong.

Since this is a Shire game, we don't want to go deeply into the older history from Gondor, since the other posters in the game aren't familiar with it. Is there a way to achieve your desired goal of "secrecy" by focusing on the doubt and uncertainty growing among the current Shire residents as to the identity of Bilbo and Frodo? Perhaps funny (or serious) posts showing folk debating just who these strangers are, and whether or not they are imposters?

Sorry to be a pest, but I know this past history can be confusing unless people have actually read the whole prior RPG.

sharon

[Child of the 7th Age]

Helen, White Lady

Could the two of you get together by pm and come up with some kind of meeting between Rose and Lindo, since they used to be friends?

I think you would really enjoy writing together!

sharon

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[Child of the 7th Age]

Helen,

Please hang on. I have to go to work and take a sick child to the doctor. I will respond later, I promise.

sharon

[Mithadan]

Mark 12_30, I'd like to give you the opportunity to delete the above post as well as you last post on the RPG thread until you have a chance to discuss this with Child and everyone else and seek a reolution to your quandry. Thank you.

[piosenniel]

NOTE TO ALL PLAYERS:

The previous discussions concerning prior history of the Lonely Star crew and concerns about character interactions which already have such a prior history, will now be discussed via email or PM between the players concerned.

Piosenniel, Shire Moderator

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For the immediate present, we are going to be moving the Game through these simultaneous sections:

1.)the all-male dinner party at Bag End

2.)the party at Amaranthas' house for Miz Rose and her children: Pio, Mithadan, and hopefully the flighty Bird will be there if she didn't drink the entire bottle of Marish Mead by herself [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]; Rose Goodchild (tLW)I hope you can come also

3.)Cami and Maura will exchange their vows in private (Big party and public exchange of vows to follow later)

Then:

Once we get through this section of the story - we are moving into a part of the storyline where the 'baddies' and their actions begin to be heard about more.

This will set us up for conflicts between the Shiriff and poor benighted Mithadan, and probably Bird (if they see her in human form).

We will also start to hear stories about several children in the Shire who have been kidnapped.

So, begin to think about how your characters will be affected in the above situations, what they'll be thinking about, what you want them to be doing.

Please PM me or Sharon(Child)if you have any questions you'ld like to work out with us.

Great job so far, all! Thanks! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ArwenBaggins]

OK guys, I'm back! I stayed at the camp a little longer than expected, but my new archery skills are worth it!

I am very busy tonight, but I will read and post tomorrow.

Thanks for carrying Elanor!

[piosenniel]

Welcome back, Arwen Baggins!

Just refreshing this memo to this page:

sequence of events for the next section of the story line:

1.)the all-male dinner party at Bag End

2.)the party at Amaranthas' house for Miz Rose and her children: Pio, Mithadan, and hopefully the flighty Bird will be there if she didn't drink the entire bottle of Marish Mead by herself [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]; Rose Goodchild (tLW)I hope you can come also

3.)Cami and Maura will exchange their vows in private (Big party and public exchange of vows to follow later)

Then:

Once we get through this section of the story - we are moving into a part of the storyline where the 'baddies' and their actions begin to be heard about more.

This will set us up for conflicts between the Shiriff and poor benighted Mithadan, and probably Bird (if they see her in human form).

We will also start to hear stories about several children in the Shire who have been kidnapped.

So, begin to think about how your characters will be affected in the above situations, what they'll be thinking about, what you want them to be doing.

Please PM me or Sharon(Child)if you have any questions you'ld like to work out with us.

Great job so far, all! Thanks! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ March 20, 2003: Message edited by: piosenniel ]