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Overshadowed Eagle
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Was the last ruler of independent Cardolan a woman?
By T.A. 1409, Arveleg of Arthedain was accepted as overlord of Cardolan, but the kingdom still had its own line of princes. (Arveleg also claimed Rhudaur, but was resisted on that score.) In that year, Angmar attacked in strength, ravaging the North Kingdoms: Quote:
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Two points suggest the possibility that the last leader of Cardolan was a woman: 1/ We know Tolkien liked to reuse elements of the Silmarillion in his Third Age writings (see, for example, the very name Minas Tirith). One of the classic Silm stories he didn't make notable use of was Lady Haleth's defence of her people after her father and brother were killed. That, too, was a siege, and was 'relieved' by Elves only after the battle was effectively won. The situations seem analogous (assuming Cirdan didn't just help out on the North Downs and then say 'welp, kid, you're on your own now'). It seems relevant that the 'native' population of Cardolan, such as the Bree-Folk, are of Haladin descent; Tolkien draws a direct link between them and the Dunlendings, and between the Dunlendings and the Haladin. So the Cardolan-Haleth connection does canonically exist. 2/ Tom Bombadil (him again) claimed a brooch once the Great Barrow was broken: Quote:
(The original thought here was 'Who buried the Last Prince of Cardolan?', but the survival of the kingdom after 1409 forced a rethink.) I know, it's not a terribly strong case. But it answer two questions ("Who did the brooch belong to?" and "Who defended the Barrow-Downs in 1409?") by evoking a Silmarillion comparison, so I quite like it. ![]() hS |
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