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Old 01-29-2003, 05:16 PM   #1
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Pipe Map of Whole Ancient Earth

Hey does anyone know a site that shows a map of the whole ancient world(valinor,middle earth,east of mordor, etc...), not just middle earth plz?
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Old 01-29-2003, 05:18 PM   #2
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There are no other maps other than West of Middle Earth (including Beriland, the island of Numenor and I believe Valinor too but Im not sure about the last one.

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Old 01-29-2003, 05:25 PM   #3
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ok thanks i just wanted to find out were valinor and numenor are in relation to middle earth.
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Old 01-29-2003, 05:30 PM   #4
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Old 01-29-2003, 06:13 PM   #5
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Welcome to BD Balrogman. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I too have wondered if there is 1 map of all ME. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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Old 01-29-2003, 07:29 PM   #6
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Happy haunting, Balrogman [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] .

I believe that there are maps of the type you are looking for in a book called The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad. I have been meaning to get this for myself for some time, but have somehow not yet got round to it. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

I do have The Illustrated Tolkien Encyclopedia by David Day, which has maps showing the development of Arda through the the Ages, but they are unfortunately not very detailed.

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Old 01-30-2003, 01:02 AM   #7
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I have two maps on my hard drive; one of Middle-earth and the Undying Lands and one of Numenor. Undfortunatly, I can see how to get them to you. Oh well, at least you know for sure that they exist.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:24 AM   #8
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are there actually any maps at all of Valinor? it's just: I am very curious about how the "perfect" land would look like.
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Old 01-30-2003, 06:13 AM   #9
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If you own the original 1967 edition of the LotR, FotR like I do, in the back they have a map of Middle Earth drawn by Biblo. It's not really drawn by him, but it's the map he drew in The Hobbit.
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Old 01-30-2003, 06:39 AM   #10
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I have the Middle Earth atlas. It is well researched, although the maps are only two-colour which makes them a bit hard to read. I recommend it, and it will answer your questions.
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Old 01-30-2003, 06:46 AM   #11
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Here are two maps, one is of Numenore
Map of Numenore
and one of the whole of Arda
Map of Arda
I don't know who drew them, hope this helps.
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Old 01-30-2003, 07:21 AM   #12
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Try buying HoME 4: Shaping of M-E.
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Old 01-30-2003, 11:20 AM   #13
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There have been two threads that I know of on this same question. Here is the one I started, and I can't find the other one. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:28 PM   #14
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Lalaith-Which M-E Atlas do you have? I wouldn't trust them if I was you.
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Old 01-31-2003, 06:36 AM   #15
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I've got the Karen Wynn one. I only bought it recently, I haven't gone over it with a scholar's eye, I confess, I've just read through it fairly quickly. Do find it untrustworthy and if so why?
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Old 01-31-2003, 11:03 AM   #16
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"A Tolkien Bestiary" by David Day features a map of all Arda and details all living things in the world of Arda recorded in Tolkien's writings. It also includes cool paintings of key events in the history of Arda, such as the destruction of the Trees of the Valar and the destruction of the Great Lamps before that.
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Old 01-31-2003, 01:10 PM   #17
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A Tolkien Besitray is tosh ,seriosuly, I own it. Mandos's halls are palced far to the south, Beleriand is totally screwed up too.
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