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08-24-2015, 09:49 AM | #1 | |
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Finnish TV- Better Than PJ?
I saw this today, and unsurprisingly, was completely unaware of it before.
I haven't had a chance to try to watch it yet, but maybe this quote from the article is a good sign? Quote:
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08-24-2015, 01:55 PM | #2 |
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I sometimes wonder if Jackson got the idea of 'Frodo the Zombie' from Hobitit, though. The 'pathetic behaviour at Weathertop' and 'get stabbed gormlessly' aspects seem to be there. One striking difference, though, is that Hobitit Frodo is about nine feet tall!
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08-25-2015, 12:40 AM | #3 |
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Now come, you didn't really expect that such a jewel has gone undiscovered on these Downs before, did you? There was some discussion of it four years ago, but it certainly warrants some more and is definitely worth watching.
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08-25-2015, 07:02 AM | #4 | |
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09-17-2015, 02:16 AM | #5 |
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Five years on (almost to the day) since my post in the other thread and Lommy and I still haven't watched this! Should we do an episode-by-episode?
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09-17-2015, 06:54 AM | #6 |
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By all means! With MST3K-style commentary.
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09-17-2015, 04:16 PM | #7 |
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Two questions.
1. Does this adaptation have a Balrog?
...and... 2. If yes, does said Balrog have wings?
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09-18-2015, 06:23 AM | #8 |
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Neither, I'm afraid - there's a mere suggestion of smoke and orange light, and any viewer who hasn't read the book is left puzzled what exactly happened to Gandalf. A pity, really, because I think they could have done a convincing Balrog in keeping with their general aesthetics - something like a vague dark figure with a backdrop of projected flames would have done the job nicely, and its shadow spreading from wall to wall would have been easily feasible with the right lighting.
I'd love to join an episode-by-episode discussion, which would however have to focus on the visual and dramaturgic aspects rather than the dialogue as far as we non-Finns are concerned (unless we turn this into Learn Finnish with Hobitit).
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09-18-2015, 06:51 AM | #9 |
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That's probably something we can give the filmmakers credit for. "A demon of the ancient world" doesn't sum things up too badly in my opinion. No surprise that they managed this for a scene in "Fellowship" which has a little delicacy compared to its sequels.
(That being said, of course, the look of the Balrog in the film is all wrong in my opinion. It's far too much like a Medieval devil based on a Greek satyr, with horns and hoofs. Such a Classical reference would never, in my opinion, have been intended in Professor Tolkien's work. It ought, in my view to look like a Fire Giant from Germanic mythology - a man with burnt-black skin and flaming hair. And no wings, I'm afraid.)
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09-18-2015, 12:10 PM | #10 |
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Pitchwife, I'm sure there's now a version with subtitles on YouTube.
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