Red Book Of Westmarch - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

01-07-2003, 04:03 PM

Hi,
I've heard of this Red Book Of Westmarch and don't know what it is (apart from a book) and want to know where I can find it if it exists...thanks

LePetitChoux · 01-07-2003, 04:08 PM

I do believe it is the collective name for The Hobbit and LotR...though I may well be wrong. Welcome to the downs!

Bêthberry · 01-07-2003, 04:42 PM

You will find several entries for the Red Book of Westmarch in the Index to Lord of the Rings, the book which Tolkien wrote. It is said to be Bilbo's private diary. A good place to start for information is the Prologue, and then LOTR itself.

[ January 07, 2003: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

Lugbúrz · 01-07-2003, 05:32 PM

Tolkien, as a translator of the tales concerning the end of the Third Age, translated the Red Book of Westmarch into English. His role as narrator is visible in many places along the story.

The Red Book was handed from Bilbo to Frodo, who later left it for Sam to add onto. These three are primary authors of the tales that concern these times. When Sam departed, the book came into possession of his daughter, Elanor, who was in Westmarch, along with her husband. From then on the Red Book came into the family of the Wardens of Westmarch, and thus had their name added onto it.

If you come across the Red Book anywhere, be sure to let us all know. Tolkien must have hidden his copy safe and sound, away from Allen and Unwin. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

May his pipe still be full of weed.

Bêthberry · 01-07-2003, 05:54 PM

*curtsies to the erudition of Lugbúrz*

Who knows what may yet be found in the dusty recesses of the British Museum or in shoe boxes of the Tolkien family.

Bethberry

01-08-2003, 08:18 AM

Thanks everyone and it sounds like a great book (if it ever gets published).....anyone know Christopher Tolkien's phone number lol?

01-07-2003, 04:03 PM	#1
Jimmay Guest Posts: n/a	Red Book Of Westmarch Hi, I've heard of this Red Book Of Westmarch and don't know what it is (apart from a book) and want to know where I can find it if it exists...thanks

01-07-2003, 04:08 PM	#2
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	I do believe it is the collective name for The Hobbit and LotR...though I may well be wrong. Welcome to the downs! __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

01-07-2003, 04:42 PM	#3
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,996	You will find several entries for the Red Book of Westmarch in the Index to Lord of the Rings, the book which Tolkien wrote. It is said to be Bilbo's private diary. A good place to start for information is the Prologue, and then LOTR itself. [ January 07, 2003: Message edited by: Bethberry ] __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

01-07-2003, 05:54 PM	#5
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,996	curtsies to the erudition of Lugbúrz Who knows what may yet be found in the dusty recesses of the British Museum or in shoe boxes of the Tolkien family. Bethberry __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

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01-07-2003, 05:32 PM	#4
Lugbúrz Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Middangeard Posts: 69	Tolkien, as a translator of the tales concerning the end of the Third Age, translated the Red Book of Westmarch into English. His role as narrator is visible in many places along the story. The Red Book was handed from Bilbo to Frodo, who later left it for Sam to add onto. These three are primary authors of the tales that concern these times. When Sam departed, the book came into possession of his daughter, Elanor, who was in Westmarch, along with her husband. From then on the Red Book came into the family of the Wardens of Westmarch, and thus had their name added onto it. If you come across the Red Book anywhere, be sure to let us all know. Tolkien must have hidden his copy safe and sound, away from Allen and Unwin. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] May his pipe still be full of weed.

01-08-2003, 08:18 AM	#6
Jimmay Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks everyone and it sounds like a great book (if it ever gets published).....anyone know Christopher Tolkien's phone number lol?