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Old 01-21-2004, 03:46 AM   #1
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Question Strange beasts

What were those beasts pulling the huge battering ram? I've never heard anything about them before. Does anybody know?
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Old 01-21-2004, 10:16 AM   #2
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I've always thought of them as some kind of huge trolls. Maybe I'm wrong though...
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Old 01-21-2004, 10:31 AM   #3
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I just looked up a quote:

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Grond they named it, in memory of the Hammer of the Underworld of old. Great beasts drew it, orcs surrounded it, and behind walked mountain-trolls to wield it.
So Tolkien seems to make it very clear that there were trolls AND beasts. But I don't think he gave us much more precisions about these particulars beasts.

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Old 01-21-2004, 10:47 AM   #4
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do you mean the rhino-like creatures, or the trolls? If it was the rhino-things you ment, it could well be one of Melkors or Saurons malformed creatures.
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Old 01-21-2004, 10:51 AM   #5
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I think that this tread was mainly about the creatures, not about the trolls.

Did you read a description of a rhino-like beast or are you speaking about the creatures Peter Jackson showed us?

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Old 01-21-2004, 11:59 AM   #6
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I wondered about this too.
They look like this guy to me.PJ might have based them on brontotheres.

[Please post big images as links only [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Sharkū.]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:04 PM January 21, 2004: Message edited by: Sharkū ]
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:48 PM   #7
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As mentioned before, possibly some products of Melkor from the First Age and before.
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Old 01-23-2004, 01:59 AM   #8
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I did mean those in the movie, and it looked very much like som Melkor stuff, big, ugly and evil.
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