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07-29-2003, 06:35 PM

Was it just me or was some of you guys a bit angry about the changes PJ added to the movie? I mean I understand that filming the entire book exactly is not possible but he didn't need to add things that had nothing to do with the story line. I mean adding those wargs and having Aragorn thrown off the edge of the cliff? I personally didn't like that. Please tell me if it was the same for some of you?

peonydeepdelver · 07-29-2003, 06:37 PM

I think most of us here disliked that part mainly, along with Faramir and such. *glances around to make sure others agree*. It was just an excuse to give them more kissy-time.

The Only Real Estel · 07-29-2003, 07:42 PM

I don't mean to dump water all over your campfire, Achika E., but there are quite a few other threads with this subject (& quite a few other threeads that have already degenerated into arguing as well )

Meela · 07-30-2003, 08:17 AM

I found that if it was a PJ addition, I preferred it to every other scene. Faramir was my favourite character, and most of the 11 times I saw TTT, I went because I wanted to see the Osgiliath/Faramir scenes over and over. In other words, I went back to drool over David Wenham

peonydeepdelver · 07-30-2003, 09:05 AM

Okay, I change my mind. Make that almost everyone, excluding Meela.

Daisy Brambleburr · 07-30-2003, 02:41 PM

They just wanted more Arwen, darnit. She does have an uncanny way of weaving herself into the most improbable storylines. Don't get me wrong, Liv Tyler is a great Arwen but in very small amounts (Tolkien measurements, preferably).

Sauron 666 · 07-30-2003, 03:39 PM

I thought they did a good show with adapting FOTR, my only real problem is the ridiculous wizard fight, which even PJ feels is cheesy, which begs the question, *** did he put it in???? <P>I has much more angry at the TTT, too much Arwen, I didn't really have a problem with the Wrags but the whole Aragorn falling and dreaming thing got on my nerves, especially when they ended the film at the point where they did, I didn't like how they've caracterized MErry and Pippin as actually influencing the Ents to attack Isengard. THe Osgiliath thing was dumb too since it unnecessarily complicates the plot, and i hate how they changed Faramir, he's one of my favourite characters in the book and they've just butchered his caracter for NO GOOD REASON.

Phervasaion · 07-31-2003, 05:07 AM

There were some things that annoyed me in TTT but the thing that annoyed me the most was the way they changed the Faramir charector. I thought the idea of Faramir was to make him the opposite of Boromir to prove that not all men were that greedy. But, for some reason they portrayed him almost the same as Boromir which i thought was a big mistake.

HCIsland · 07-31-2003, 07:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I thought they did a good show with adapting FOTR, my only real problem is the ridiculous wizard fight, which even PJ feels is cheesy, which begs the question, *** did he put it in???? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hmm, when did he say that? I recall his comment in the director's commentary being something like, I never liked wizzard fights with blue lightning shooting out of their fingers (boy, I wonder what that's in reference too ), so I thought it would be fun just to have two old guys beat the crap out of each other.<P>H.C.

Lord of Angmar · 07-31-2003, 08:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I didn't like how they've caracterized MErry and Pippin as actually influencing the Ents to attack Isengard (Sauron 666)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Don't forget, Sauron, in the books their entry into Fangorn was what caused the Ents to attack Saruman's stronghold. I think the changes in that respect of the movie could have been worse, and I agree with you about Faramir. I didn't like the changes they made to him one bit.

The Only Real Estel · 07-31-2003, 08:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I thought they did a good show with adapting FOTR, my only real problem is the ridiculous wizard fight, which even PJ feels is cheesy, which begs the question, *** did he put it in????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I actually didn't have a problem with it. It's totally different if they're shooting lighting bolts out of there fingertips at eachother (as Hc alreay said). Yes it was an addition, & yes it was a bit strange at first, but for the most part it fit right in & I enjoyed it.

07-29-2003, 06:35 PM	#1
Achika E. Guest Posts: n/a	Was it just me? Was it just me or was some of you guys a bit angry about the changes PJ added to the movie? I mean I understand that filming the entire book exactly is not possible but he didn't need to add things that had nothing to do with the story line. I mean adding those wargs and having Aragorn thrown off the edge of the cliff? I personally didn't like that. Please tell me if it was the same for some of you?

07-29-2003, 06:37 PM	#2
peonydeepdelver Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alas, I hail from Massachusetts Posts: 256	I think most of us here disliked that part mainly, along with Faramir and such. glances around to make sure others agree. It was just an excuse to give them more kissy-time. __________________ "Nazgul, Nazgul! You speak of what is deep beyond the reach of your muddy dreams, Ugluk! Nazgul! Ah! All that they make out! One day you'll wish that you had not said that. Ape! You ought to know that they're the apple of the Great Eye." ~Grishnakh

07-30-2003, 08:17 AM	#4
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	I found that if it was a PJ addition, I preferred it to every other scene. Faramir was my favourite character, and most of the 11 times I saw TTT, I went because I wanted to see the Osgiliath/Faramir scenes over and over. In other words, I went back to drool over David Wenham __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

07-30-2003, 09:05 AM	#5
peonydeepdelver Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alas, I hail from Massachusetts Posts: 256	Okay, I change my mind. Make that almost everyone, excluding Meela. __________________ "Nazgul, Nazgul! You speak of what is deep beyond the reach of your muddy dreams, Ugluk! Nazgul! Ah! All that they make out! One day you'll wish that you had not said that. Ape! You ought to know that they're the apple of the Great Eye." ~Grishnakh

07-30-2003, 02:41 PM	#6
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	They just wanted more Arwen, darnit. She does have an uncanny way of weaving herself into the most improbable storylines. Don't get me wrong, Liv Tyler is a great Arwen but in very small amounts (Tolkien measurements, preferably). __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

07-29-2003, 07:42 PM	#3
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	I don't mean to dump water all over your campfire, Achika E., but there are quite a few other threads with this subject (& quite a few other threeads that have already degenerated into arguing as well )

07-30-2003, 03:39 PM	#7
Sauron 666 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	I thought they did a good show with adapting FOTR, my only real problem is the ridiculous wizard fight, which even PJ feels is cheesy, which begs the question, *** did he put it in???? <P>I has much more angry at the TTT, too much Arwen, I didn't really have a problem with the Wrags but the whole Aragorn falling and dreaming thing got on my nerves, especially when they ended the film at the point where they did, I didn't like how they've caracterized MErry and Pippin as actually influencing the Ents to attack Isengard. THe Osgiliath thing was dumb too since it unnecessarily complicates the plot, and i hate how they changed Faramir, he's one of my favourite characters in the book and they've just butchered his caracter for NO GOOD REASON. __________________ Ash Nazg Durbatuluk Ash Nazg Gimbatul Ash Nazg Thrakatuluk Arg Burzum-Ishi Krimpatul

07-31-2003, 05:07 AM	#8
Phervasaion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The wilderness of Middle-Earth Posts: 306	There were some things that annoyed me in TTT but the thing that annoyed me the most was the way they changed the Faramir charector. I thought the idea of Faramir was to make him the opposite of Boromir to prove that not all men were that greedy. But, for some reason they portrayed him almost the same as Boromir which i thought was a big mistake. __________________ Phervasaion

07-31-2003, 07:04 AM	#9
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I thought they did a good show with adapting FOTR, my only real problem is the ridiculous wizard fight, which even PJ feels is cheesy, which begs the question, *** did he put it in???? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hmm, when did he say that? I recall his comment in the director's commentary being something like, I never liked wizzard fights with blue lightning shooting out of their fingers (boy, I wonder what that's in reference too ), so I thought it would be fun just to have two old guys beat the crap out of each other.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

07-31-2003, 08:25 AM	#10
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I didn't like how they've caracterized MErry and Pippin as actually influencing the Ents to attack Isengard (Sauron 666)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Don't forget, Sauron, in the books their entry into Fangorn was what caused the Ents to attack Saruman's stronghold. I think the changes in that respect of the movie could have been worse, and I agree with you about Faramir. I didn't like the changes they made to him one bit. __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

07-31-2003, 08:48 PM	#11
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I thought they did a good show with adapting FOTR, my only real problem is the ridiculous wizard fight, which even PJ feels is cheesy, which begs the question, *** did he put it in????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I actually didn't have a problem with it. It's totally different if they're shooting lighting bolts out of there fingertips at eachother (as Hc alreay said). Yes it was an addition, & yes it was a bit strange at first, but for the most part it fit right in & I enjoyed it.

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