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05-03-2003, 05:47 PM

Am I the only one who was quite disapointed at the way Faramir was depicted in the TT movie??

Stryker Stormeye · 05-03-2003, 07:46 PM

No...I was too. I think they murdered his character.

Aduyuldaiel-MirkwoodPrincess · 05-03-2003, 08:26 PM

i totally agree. they so killed faramir

Everdawn · 05-04-2003, 12:04 AM

They showed Faramir like that so they could dipict the weakness of man. If you can understand that? But yes, I think it was a bit harsh, but i suppose it had to be done.

Meela · 05-04-2003, 06:04 AM

I absolutely loved him. And I do know what he was like in the books. Either way he's brilliant.

Rynoah, the Overly-Happy · 05-04-2003, 01:54 PM

If you'd asked me this question a few months ago, I'd have gone into a five-hour rantfest about the destruction of Faramir's character. Now, however, I think I've come to an understanding as to why Peter Jackson and the writers had him act like he did and I now love the movie Faramir almost as much as the book Faramir. I also posted my views in another thread somewhere. Try the "search" function.

05-04-2003, 01:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I absolutely loved him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> But Meela you love everyone no mater how weird they are for example. Grima and Denethor I understand why they did what they did to his charecter but I don't like him that way.(Book virsion is better) [ May 04, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

Meela · 05-04-2003, 02:13 PM

Good point but at least Faramir has other fans! I mean, Denethor, Grima, Theoden, Treebeard, Gimli, and Gil-Galad don't exactly compare to Legolas and Frodo.

Phervasaion · 05-08-2003, 03:19 PM

I think they ruined him slightly as he was portrayed as a good man who had resistance to the ring wheras he was more like Bpromir in the film and i think it may ruin ROTK slightly aswell. But i still think the film will b exellent

Gildor15 · 05-11-2003, 05:03 PM

Howdy eveyone! I'm new but no less of a tolkien fanatic than you I think. I was wondering if PJ is going to put the Eowyn/Faramir love story into the movie or not. I haven't done much searching on the topic so there might be discussion about it I haven't seen. I hated the way Pj portrayed faramir because he is the coolest guy from Gondor. So anyway tell me if you know anything.

Everdawn · 05-12-2003, 05:34 AM

My god, if Éowyn and Faramir's story wasnt in it, it wouldnt be Lord Of The Rings now would it?

Meela · 05-12-2003, 11:38 AM

Its in there. Apparently the wedding is in and all. Anyone else gonna cry? Oh, and I've already claimed the position of Woman In The Big Hat, so no trying to steal my place

Faramir Fan · 05-30-2003, 09:40 AM

Well it looks like the carniage will continue...Spoilers contined in link <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1054286308" TARGET=_blank>Interview with Miranda Otto from TORN</A>What bugs me the most about this is that PJ kept saying "Don't worry we will redeem Faramir in ROTK", but now it just means he will be pretty much hacked out of the story...I am really disappointed!!!![ May 30, 2003: Message edited by: Faramir Fan ]

Meela · 05-30-2003, 10:46 AM

They can't hack the best part of the story!

HCIsland · 05-30-2003, 10:49 AM

Gee, what I read said that the romance was definately there. I would be happy with that. I never expected a great deal of time being spent on, what is essentially, a side story.H.C.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-30-2003, 05:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> ... but now it just means he will be pretty much hacked out of the story... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, I read it as saying that not too much time will be spent on the House of Healing scenes and that the romance between Faramir and Eowyn won't be overplayed, both of which I see as plus factors for the film.Don't worry, I imagine that Faramir is going to play an important part in this final film, what with the interplay between him, Denethor and Pippin, the tension of his flight from Osgiliath and, of course, Denethor's attempt to barbeque him.

The Only Real Estel · 05-31-2003, 10:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>They showed Faramir like that so they could dipict the weakness of man.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> They did THAT to Farimir to show the weakness of man!? Umm, they already showed the weakness of man in Borimir. If you can understand that. They messed up Farimir so that they could 'heighten the drama'. why should they sacrifice a 'noble character' like Farimir to heighten the drama in a already dramatic movie? Obviously it isn't greatly dramatic to cut from Helm's Deep to Sam asking Farimir to pass the bread ( HCIsland already said that in a different thread ), but do people really care? People like to have a good character in the middle of a 'greedy' place like Gondor ( except PJ apparently ). Oh well, I hated his portrayl. Out. [ May 31, 2003: Message edited by: The Only Real Estel ]

05-03-2003, 05:47 PM	#1
Turin_5 Guest Posts: n/a	Faramir Am I the only one who was quite disapointed at the way Faramir was depicted in the TT movie??

05-03-2003, 07:46 PM	#2
Stryker Stormeye Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: By my computer... (Duh) Posts: 33	No...<P>I was too. I think they murdered his character. __________________ insert funny interesting signature here

05-03-2003, 08:26 PM	#3
Aduyuldaiel-MirkwoodPrincess Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MirkWood Posts: 73	i totally agree. they so killed faramir __________________ "when all is said and done and dead does he love you the way that i do?"

05-04-2003, 12:04 AM	#4
Everdawn Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the sand dunes outside of Ilium, watching it burn. Posts: 1,291	They showed Faramir like that so they could dipict the weakness of man. If you can understand that? But yes, I think it was a bit harsh, but i suppose it had to be done. __________________ "Athena, stepping up behind him, visible to no one but Achillies, gripped his red-gold hair. Startled he made a half turn, and he knew her upon the instant for Athena." ~The Iliad~ ~My lord, Éomer~

05-04-2003, 06:04 AM	#5
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	I absolutely loved him. And I do know what he was like in the books. Either way he's brilliant. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-04-2003, 01:54 PM	#6
Rynoah, the Overly-Happy Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 474	If you'd asked me this question a few months ago, I'd have gone into a five-hour rantfest about the destruction of Faramir's character. Now, however, I think I've come to an understanding as to why Peter Jackson and the writers had him act like he did and I now love the movie Faramir almost as much as the book Faramir. I also posted my views in another thread somewhere. Try the "search" function. __________________ Spook the spook of spookish spookdom to spook the spooked spookers. ?!?! This isn't Osgiliath! Do the wave for Boromir the Disco King! Eat squid for Boromir the Disco King!

05-04-2003, 01:54 PM	#7
Elven Maiden Earwen Guest Posts: n/a	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I absolutely loved him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>But Meela you love everyone no mater how weird they are for example. Grima and Denethor <P><BR>I understand why they did what they did to his charecter but I don't like him that way.(Book virsion is better) <p>[ May 04, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

05-04-2003, 02:13 PM	#8
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Good point but at least Faramir has other fans! I mean, Denethor, Grima, Theoden, Treebeard, Gimli, and Gil-Galad don't exactly compare to Legolas and Frodo. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-08-2003, 03:19 PM	#9
Phervasaion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The wilderness of Middle-Earth Posts: 306	I think they ruined him slightly as he was portrayed as a good man who had resistance to the ring wheras he was more like Bpromir in the film and i think it may ruin ROTK slightly aswell. But i still think the film will b exellent __________________ Phervasaion

05-11-2003, 05:03 PM	#10
Gildor15 Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2003 Location: Holland, Michigan, United States Posts: 16	Howdy eveyone!<BR>I'm new but no less of a tolkien fanatic than you I think. I was wondering if PJ is going to put the Eowyn/Faramir love story into the movie or not. I haven't done much searching on the topic so there might be discussion about it I haven't seen. I hated the way Pj portrayed faramir because he is the coolest guy from Gondor. So anyway tell me if you know anything. __________________ "Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes."-Frodo

05-12-2003, 05:34 AM	#11
Everdawn Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the sand dunes outside of Ilium, watching it burn. Posts: 1,291	My god, if Éowyn and Faramir's story wasnt in it, it wouldnt be Lord Of The Rings now would it? __________________ "Athena, stepping up behind him, visible to no one but Achillies, gripped his red-gold hair. Startled he made a half turn, and he knew her upon the instant for Athena." ~The Iliad~ ~My lord, Éomer~

05-12-2003, 11:38 AM	#12
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Its in there. Apparently the wedding is in and all. Anyone else gonna cry? Oh, and I've already claimed the position of Woman In The Big Hat, so no trying to steal my place __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-30-2003, 09:40 AM	#13
Faramir Fan Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 72	Well it looks like the carniage will continue...<P>Spoilers contined in link<P><BR><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1054286308" TARGET=_blank>Interview with Miranda Otto from TORN</A><P>What bugs me the most about this is that PJ kept saying "Don't worry we will redeem Faramir in ROTK", but now it just means he will be pretty much hacked out of the story...<P>I am really disappointed!!!!<p>[ May 30, 2003: Message edited by: Faramir Fan ] __________________ "A new character has come on the scene (I am sure I did not invent him, I did not even want him, though I like him, but there he came walking into the woods of Ithilien): Faramir, the brother of Boromir..." J.R.R. Tolkien, Letters No. 66

05-30-2003, 10:46 AM	#14
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	They can't hack the best part of the story! __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-30-2003, 10:49 AM	#15
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Gee, what I read said that the romance was definately there. I would be happy with that. I never expected a great deal of time being spent on, what is essentially, a side story.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

05-30-2003, 05:59 PM	#16
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> ... but now it just means he will be pretty much hacked out of the story... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, I read it as saying that not too much time will be spent on the House of Healing scenes and that the romance between Faramir and Eowyn won't be overplayed, both of which I see as plus factors for the film.<P>Don't worry, I imagine that Faramir is going to play an important part in this final film, what with the interplay between him, Denethor and Pippin, the tension of his flight from Osgiliath and, of course, Denethor's attempt to barbeque him. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-31-2003, 10:24 AM	#17
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>They showed Faramir like that so they could dipict the weakness of man.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> They did THAT to Farimir to show the weakness of man!? Umm, they already showed the weakness of man in Borimir. If you can understand that. They messed up Farimir so that they could 'heighten the drama'. why should they sacrifice a 'noble character' like Farimir to heighten the drama in a already dramatic movie? Obviously it isn't greatly dramatic to cut from Helm's Deep to Sam asking Farimir to pass the bread ( HCIsland already said that in a different thread ), but do people really care? People like to have a good character in the middle of a 'greedy' place like Gondor ( except PJ apparently ). Oh well, I hated his portrayl. Out. <p>[ May 31, 2003: Message edited by: The Only Real Estel ]

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