Hope for the dunedain - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dunedain_aragorn · 01-03-2003, 11:29 AM

I will simply die if they leave out aragorns northern folk in the return of the king. I mean, the dunedain are so awesome in the book! Does any one else feel this way?

eleanor_niphredil · 01-03-2003, 03:15 PM

Actualy, I always thought there should have been more about them in the book. There wasnt enough to show how important they are.They should definatly be in the movie.

Nevtarmawen Greenleaf · 01-04-2003, 10:50 AM

I agree with Eleanor, there never was really that much about them in the book, but I hope they don't leave them out of the movie, because some people don't really know who they are!

Maeglin · 01-04-2003, 11:13 AM

They will. They will..My intuition.

Dimaldaeon · 01-04-2003, 04:25 PM

My foresight tells me that the Dunedain will probably be replaced by Haldir's elves from Lorien. Of course since Aragorn still dosen't have Anduril or his banner, To quote "There is still hope" Of course an elf could go "Here, sorry about forgetting to give you them before the battle, it must have slipped my mind" Lets hope that my foresight isn't as frighteningly accurate as usual.

aragornreborn · 01-05-2003, 02:28 PM

I REALLY hope they're in ROTK. Rangers are the best! If they aren't in ROTK and are replaced by those elves, I really am going to hunt down Peter Jackson. Yeah, and what's the deal with Anduril? He was supposed to have that already. C'mon it's the best sword ever!

Lady_Báin · 01-06-2003, 09:54 AM

well let's see, most of haldir's elves died anyway and i don't think they're going to make a "suprise" entrance because they are already there, if you get my meaning. And i think they like that sort of thing, you know "all hope is gone but oh look here are the dúnedain come to save us. yay." so i have a feeling that they'll make an appearence, but one never knows. (and haldir mentions the dúnedain in S.E.E. FotR)[ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lady_Báin ]

Lily Bracegirdle · 01-09-2003, 09:04 PM

I hope Aragorn's northern friends make their appearance, but after reading some other speculations (I believe at this site?) I'm afraid I forsee Arwen riding up with a host of Rivendell elves."Hi, honey! I brought you some reinforcements. Oh, and this banner I made. Oh, and I got some guy to put your sword back together for you. And I brought your wooly mittens. . ." -Lily

Carrûn · 01-09-2003, 09:12 PM

Considering the Halbarad is for some bizzare reason one of my favorite characters in the book (I was a bit miffed when Tolkien mentioned his death only in passing) I seriously hope that the Rangers get some screne time. On one hande - "Oh but it's too confusing for the average viewer to understand how they fit in since they've only been talked about once or twice." However Aragorn still needs his sword and I hope they give him the flag to. I would be horrified if Arwen rides up with a bunch of elves & hands them both to them - for me it would kind of nullify the part about her sending him her hope in the form of the flag. "Ok dear, let's take a little ride on the Paths of the Dead now."[ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: Carrûn ]

01-10-2003, 02:42 PM

I just read... there will be NO dunedain in ROTK. They will be replaced by Lothlorien Elves. Doesn't that bite?! Yes, hunt down Peter Jackson!

Deathwail · 01-10-2003, 03:13 PM

I bet if you toss Peter Jackson off a tall moutain he will die, just like a Balrog

Nostie · 01-14-2003, 02:51 PM

what?! NO dunedain?! that is SO wrong...

HCIsland · 01-14-2003, 03:46 PM

I was worried about that. I think if they were planning to have the Dunedain, they would have played that they are out there. I don't think there is much in Fellowship or Two Towers to suggest that there's a cohesive force out there that Aragorn is leader of.If they are replaced by Lothlorien elves (I assume the ones that survived Helm's Deep) how is the sword and banner to make it to Aragorn? Or is that out too. H.C.

Mattius · 01-14-2003, 03:50 PM

Arwen is going to bring Aragorn the re-forged sword and a banner (this can be seen on one of the pictures on the RotK spoiler threads). Hmmm, Arwen and Eowyn in the same place at the same time- should be funny.

HCIsland · 01-14-2003, 06:13 PM

Maybe JP will give us a good cat fight ala Dynasty and they'll fall in a mud pit. Oops, sorry. Wrong generation.H.C.

01-14-2003, 06:26 PM

If they aren't going to be there, better to find out now than to find out when seeing it for the first time.Silfana, any other tidbits from where you read about The Return of the King leaving out the Rangers? I know they not doing the Scouring of the Shire in the movie, but beyond that I hadn't heard much about what they are changing/deleting.

maikafanawen · 01-14-2003, 06:30 PM

My cousin is visiting and has an opinion on this thread:I am with the idea of warrior-elves. I mean honestly they were SO cool when they showed up at Helms Deep, it was one of my favorite parts, but I do not want any Rivendell Elves entering to the sound of harps and turning in synchronization at Gondor. The first time is great but I want to see the race of men come together and fight. I have not read the entire series but my cousin (known as Maikafanawen here) has told me everything she can and I am going to join the band to hunt down this PJ if it's true he's actually not going to put the dunedain in ROTK. Reading the snid-bits of passage on them in the book they sound perfect for the deliverers of Anduril and the banner to Aragorn. They're like presenting his history and past back to him with honor this time! His own people!! Arwen would NOT have the same awesomely moving effect as they would. It's a shame! Arwen wasn't even a main part in the book. I think they should have let her remain some mysterious elf-woman and put back all the characters she's replased [i.e. Glorfingel (sp?) and now the dunedain!] grrArwengrrr

01-03-2003, 11:29 AM	#1
dunedain_aragorn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a Mcdonald's Happy Meal Posts: 47	Hope for the dunedain I will simply die if they leave out aragorns northern folk in the return of the king. I mean, the dunedain are so awesome in the book! Does any one else feel this way? __________________ "I must take leave, I have not slept since Dunnharrow, and I am weary."said Aragorn. Merry seized his hand and kissed it."I am frightfully sorry, we have been a nuisance to you since Bree." Aragorn laughed and left them. "Was there ever any like him?" said Pippin,"Except for Gandalf of course. I believe they must be related."

01-03-2003, 03:15 PM	#2
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	Actualy, I always thought there should have been more about them in the book. There wasnt enough to show how important they are.<P>They should definatly be in the movie. __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

01-04-2003, 10:50 AM	#3
Nevtarmawen Greenleaf Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 33	I agree with Eleanor, there never was really that much about them in the book, but I hope they don't leave them out of the movie, because some people don't really know who they are! __________________ "They do not see what lies ahead, when sun has failed and moon is dead."

01-04-2003, 11:13 AM	#4
Maeglin Wight Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nan Elmoth Posts: 136	They will. They will..<P>My intuition. __________________ The fool speaks of what he knows. The wise knows what he speaks of.

01-04-2003, 04:25 PM	#5
Dimaldaeon Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ireland & damn proud of it. Posts: 125	My foresight tells me that the Dunedain will probably be replaced by Haldir's elves from Lorien. Of course since Aragorn still dosen't have Anduril or his banner, To quote "There is still hope"<BR>Of course an elf could go "Here, sorry about forgetting to give you them before the battle, it must have slipped my mind"<BR>Lets hope that my foresight isn't as frighteningly accurate as usual. __________________ Dear Saddam, Do not disunderestimate me.Yours G.W.Bush You're not drunk if you can still hold onto a blade of grass to stop yourself from falling off the face of the Earth

01-05-2003, 02:28 PM	#6
aragornreborn Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 182	I REALLY hope they're in ROTK. Rangers are the best! If they aren't in ROTK and are replaced by those elves, I really am going to hunt down Peter Jackson. Yeah, and what's the deal with Anduril? He was supposed to have that already. C'mon it's the best sword ever! __________________ At the name of Jesus every knee should bow and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. - Phil. 2:10-11

01-06-2003, 09:54 AM	#7
Lady_Báin Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Peterborough, England Posts: 250	well let's see, most of haldir's elves died anyway and i don't think they're going to make a "suprise" entrance because they are already there, if you get my meaning. And i think they like that sort of thing, you know "all hope is gone but oh look here are the dúnedain come to save us. yay." so i have a feeling that they'll make an appearence, but one never knows. <BR>(and haldir mentions the dúnedain in S.E.E. FotR)<p>[ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lady_Báin ] __________________ pæling.

01-09-2003, 09:04 PM	#8
Lily Bracegirdle Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bree Posts: 210	I hope Aragorn's northern friends make their appearance, but after reading some other speculations (I believe at this site?) I'm afraid I forsee Arwen riding up with a host of Rivendell elves.<P>"Hi, honey! I brought you some reinforcements. Oh, and this banner I made. Oh, and I got some guy to put your sword back together for you. And I brought your wooly mittens. . ." <P>-Lily __________________ "But nay: the praise of the praiseworthy is above all rewards." - Faramir

01-09-2003, 09:12 PM	#9
Carrûn Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind you, counting to 3 Posts: 234	Considering the Halbarad is for some bizzare reason one of my favorite characters in the book (I was a bit miffed when Tolkien mentioned his death only in passing) I seriously hope that the Rangers get some screne time. On one hande - "Oh but it's too confusing for the average viewer to understand how they fit in since they've only been talked about once or twice." However Aragorn still needs his sword and I hope they give him the flag to. I would be horrified if Arwen rides up with a bunch of elves & hands them both to them - for me it would kind of nullify the part about her sending him her hope in the form of the flag. "Ok dear, let's take a little ride on the Paths of the Dead now."<p>[ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: Carrûn ] __________________ "Dic, hospes, Spartae, nos te hic vidisse iacentes dum sanctis patriae legibus obsequimur."

01-10-2003, 02:42 PM	#10
Silfana Guest Posts: n/a	I just read...<BR> there will be NO dunedain in ROTK. They will be replaced by Lothlorien Elves. Doesn't that bite?! Yes, hunt down Peter Jackson!

01-10-2003, 03:13 PM	#11
Deathwail Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Door of Night Posts: 99	I bet if you toss Peter Jackson off a tall moutain he will die, just like a Balrog __________________ He who arises in Might.

01-14-2003, 02:51 PM	#12
Nostie Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 12	what?! NO dunedain?! that is SO wrong...

01-14-2003, 03:46 PM	#13
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I was worried about that. I think if they were planning to have the Dunedain, they would have played that they are out there. I don't think there is much in Fellowship or Two Towers to suggest that there's a cohesive force out there that Aragorn is leader of.<P>If they are replaced by Lothlorien elves (I assume the ones that survived Helm's Deep) how is the sword and banner to make it to Aragorn? Or is that out too. <P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

01-14-2003, 03:50 PM	#14
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 666	Arwen is going to bring Aragorn the re-forged sword and a banner (this can be seen on one of the pictures on the RotK spoiler threads). Hmmm, Arwen and Eowyn in the same place at the same time- should be funny. __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

01-14-2003, 06:13 PM	#15
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Maybe JP will give us a good cat fight ala Dynasty and they'll fall in a mud pit. <P>Oops, sorry. Wrong generation.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

01-14-2003, 06:26 PM	#16
goblue Guest Posts: n/a	If they aren't going to be there, better to find out now than to find out when seeing it for the first time.<P>Silfana, any other tidbits from where you read about The Return of the King leaving out the Rangers? I know they not doing the Scouring of the Shire in the movie, but beyond that I hadn't heard much about what they are changing/deleting.

01-14-2003, 06:30 PM	#17
maikafanawen Tears of Simbelmynë Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beast's Castle Posts: 705	My cousin is visiting and has an opinion on this thread:<P>I am with the idea of warrior-elves. I mean honestly they were SO cool when they showed up at Helms Deep, it was one of my favorite parts, but I do not want any <I>Rivendell</I> Elves entering to the sound of harps and turning in synchronization at Gondor. The first time is great but I want to see the race of men come together and fight. I have not read the entire series but my cousin (known as Maikafanawen here) has told me everything she can and I am going to join the band to hunt down this PJ if it's true he's actually not going to put the dunedain in ROTK. Reading the snid-bits of passage on them in the book they sound perfect for the deliverers of Anduril and the banner to Aragorn. They're like presenting his history and past back to him with honor this time! His own people!! Arwen would NOT have the same awesomely moving effect as they would. It's a shame! Arwen wasn't even a main part in the book. I think they should have let her remain some mysterious elf-woman and put back all the characters she's replased [i.e. Glorfingel (sp?) and now the dunedain!] grrArwengrrr __________________ "They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say, 'Sht, it's raining!'" -- Ruby, Cold Mountain*

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