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05-16-2003, 11:06 AM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: May 2003
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An elvish word that needs translating
In the Fellowship, Aragorn and company are in Lothlorien and on the hill of Caras Galadon Aragorn states(in elvish):"Arwen vanimelda, namarie". I know that Arwen is his betrothed and namarie means farewell, but I don't know what vanimelda means.
note: I have listed any false statements, please tell me. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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05-16-2003, 12:38 PM
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Pile O'Bones
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according to the languages of tolkien's middle-earth by ruth s. noel: vanimelda Q vanya = fair, mel = love.
so im guessing he said something along the lines of farewell my fair love arwen. dont know if this helps, but i tried. [ May 16, 2003: Message edited by: manaratowen ]
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05-16-2003, 12:50 PM
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Banshee of Camelot
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According to "Ardalambion" :
Vanima = beautiful elda = 1. adj. "of the stars" 2. noun "one of the people of the stars= high elf (pl.Eldar) So it means: Arwen, beautiful Elf
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05-16-2003, 02:53 PM
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Haunting Spirit
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From Ardalambion:
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05-16-2003, 02:59 PM
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Wight
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Alright,
So on Ardalambion there is a word "vanimalda" and a word "Vanimelde" with the two dots over it's last e (at a loss for the formal term at the moment) which mean "your beautiful/beautiful one" and a feminine name meaning "Beautiful-Dear-One", respectively. Also, assuming that maybe there are alternate spellings of the phrase (due to revisions and what not), I found "Arwen vanimalda" which was stated to mean beautiful Arwen. So the phrase probably means "Beautiful Arwen, fairwell." And I'm outie - ~Scott
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