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07-22-2014, 10:54 AM | #1 |
Shade of Carn Dûm
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How Saruon could have won the Dwaves to his side; my crackpot theory
Hi,
It's really raw (and probably has some holes in it) but here is a scenario I can sort of imagine for Sauron SUCESSFULLY bringing the Dwaves under his control. If I had to guess as to what Sauron's ultimate ideal plan for Dwarven Domination was, I imagine he was probably shooting for something along the lines of waht he did in Numeor. This is especially true later, once he realized the rings weren't working so well, and doubly so in the Third Age, when he was short of spare rings and was trying to get the dwarves on his side via guile. Chief of the "gods" of the Dwarves is Mahal the Maker i.e. Aule. As long as the dwaves believe in Mahal the way they do, any plan of Sauron to be seen as god by them is probably going to go nowhere. What Sauron CAN do and I think he might have been trying for is to be seen as Mahal's chosen representative on earth, and the inheritor of his power. He is (or was) a servant of Aule originally; play that up and he might be able to make some dwarves see him as the Jesus to Aule's God. The seven rings were presumably orginally planned to go to the head of each house (the fact that there are/Sauron chose seven rings to be dwarf rings (the difference depends on whether seven rings were designed for the dwaves, as per the song, or Sauron took sixteen as yet unaligned rings when he sacked Eregion and later decided that seven should go to the dwarves and nine to men later) and seven fathers/houses of dwarves is too big a coincidence in my book) as tokens of favor between the dwaves and thier "God on earth" ("with these rings, I bind thee and thy houses to thy god.") Later, come the third age when 1. Sauroin would have figured out the rings didn't work as well as they should have on Dwaves and 2. four of the Dwaven rings had actually melted (I assume that, somehow since Sauron has a connection to all the rings, he would have felt/found out about the other rings destruction (since once he got Thrain's he doesn't appear to have kept looking, as if he KNEW those were all there were left.) He might have had to rely more on guile (especially since, even if his "join me and I'll give you the three elven rings (plus presumably, the three dwaven he reclaimed, since they did little good for him being on his hands) was at all true (which is presunably would not be as why would Sauron dispense the rings again if he KNEW they didn't work on dwarves. And if the intention was to imply he could make and give them new rings, why would he specify the three elven ones, implying that the number was limited) it would not take a genius to realize that that was fwer rings than before, so someone would be left out. I actually wonder if at this point Sauron might have considered using Saruman as a liason to the dwarves, assuming he prove himself more trustworthy than he proved to be (or Sauron could break/enslave him to a point where he could be trusted.). As a fellow Maiar of Aule, the dwaves might offer him extra respect too (Tecnically this probably violates the Ishari orders, since I assume they are not supposed to admit they are Maiar in public either, but a Saruman that was Sauron's true slave would probably not be much trobled by this). Maybe if Saroun hoped to be the Dwaves Chrsit, he might have set up Saruman as his Pope, and led the dwaves, master craftsman, to forge and smelt for him and his armies alone. |
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