Radagast, Alatar and Pallando - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

TheLostPilgrim · 01-15-2012, 06:32 PM

Is it possible that these three did not utterly fail in their mission, and that perhaps the Istari had a mission secondary to defeating Sauron? For example, Gandalf's secondary mission (which would aid in part the first) would be to act as a guiding force to Men and a friend to the Elves--a great advisor and counselor of the world, imparting the wisdom of Eru, while using his strength in a limited fashion to enable the defeat of Sauron. Saruman too might have had a secondary purpose in Middle Earth which tied in with the first, but he betrayed both.

Is it possible that Radagast's secondary purpose was to tender to the birds and beasts of the world, and ensure their protection from the destruction which Sauron would try to wrought upon the world, especially in the event that the others failed and Sauron had 'won'? Yavanna forced him to go along with Saruman; perhaps that he keep an eye on Saruman or to temper Saruman's innate nature, or perhaps because she wanted Radagast to represent her own nature in Middle Earth.

And perhaps Alatar and Pallando became the forefathers of all of history's ancient wizards--Keeping the memory of a divine or supernatural spirit alive--And that was their intended secondary purpose, perhaps?

I do not believe any of the Five except Saruman failed objectively--they were all sent for one reason, yes, but that does not preclude being sent also for other reasons. If the Istari were sent only to act against Sauron, I would think they would've been sent during the First War, or a time closer to his revival.

What I'm trying to say is that besides being the Valar's representatives against Sauron, perhaps they were the Valar's/Eru's representatives in Middle Earth, period--and in their own ways succeeded in being such, being chosen for different reasons. We are not told that any but Saruman fell to evil, neither did any of them attempt to become another Sauron...So I do not think they utterly failed.

01-15-2012, 06:32 PM	#1
TheLostPilgrim Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 72	Radagast, Alatar and Pallando Is it possible that these three did not utterly fail in their mission, and that perhaps the Istari had a mission secondary to defeating Sauron? For example, Gandalf's secondary mission (which would aid in part the first) would be to act as a guiding force to Men and a friend to the Elves--a great advisor and counselor of the world, imparting the wisdom of Eru, while using his strength in a limited fashion to enable the defeat of Sauron. Saruman too might have had a secondary purpose in Middle Earth which tied in with the first, but he betrayed both. Is it possible that Radagast's secondary purpose was to tender to the birds and beasts of the world, and ensure their protection from the destruction which Sauron would try to wrought upon the world, especially in the event that the others failed and Sauron had 'won'? Yavanna forced him to go along with Saruman; perhaps that he keep an eye on Saruman or to temper Saruman's innate nature, or perhaps because she wanted Radagast to represent her own nature in Middle Earth. And perhaps Alatar and Pallando became the forefathers of all of history's ancient wizards--Keeping the memory of a divine or supernatural spirit alive--And that was their intended secondary purpose, perhaps? I do not believe any of the Five except Saruman failed objectively--they were all sent for one reason, yes, but that does not preclude being sent also for other reasons. If the Istari were sent only to act against Sauron, I would think they would've been sent during the First War, or a time closer to his revival. What I'm trying to say is that besides being the Valar's representatives against Sauron, perhaps they were the Valar's/Eru's representatives in Middle Earth, period--and in their own ways succeeded in being such, being chosen for different reasons. We are not told that any but Saruman fell to evil, neither did any of them attempt to become another Sauron...So I do not think they utterly failed.