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10-15-2011, 01:53 PM | #1 | ||||
Late Istar
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The Building of Barad-dûr
I've recently noticed that there appear to be three somewhat contradictory statements in The Lord of the Rings and the 'Akallabeth' concerning when Barad-dur was first built.
In 'The Council of Elrond', Elrond, telling of the Last Alliance, says: Quote:
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The second problem is that the reign of Tar-Minastir was, according to 'The Line of Elros', from 1731 to 1869. So, even if we assume that the Akallabeth is meant to place only the completion of Barad-dur, and not its whole construction, in the reign of Tar-Minastir, that still puts it more than a century later than is said in ToY. It's perhaps worth noting that in earlier versions of the Tale of Years and of the Akallabeth the dates line up somewhat better: the earlier draft of ToY gives Barad-dur's construction as 900 - 1900 and the forging of the One Ring sometime between 1200 and 1500; and the earlier draft of the Akallabeth puts the building of Barad-dur during the reign of Tar-Atanamir, which at that time was 1790 - 2061. But still, there is the issue of Barad-dur's foundations being laid long before the Ring was made. I don't know if there's all that much to say on this topic, but I do find it somewhat puzzling and was wondering what others make of it. Last edited by Aiwendil; 10-17-2011 at 07:47 AM. |
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