Those Crazy Ainur... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

tom bombariffic · 12-29-2002, 01:07 PM

Hello all,

I was thinking about the Istari (as you do), and about the few interventions manwe and his fellow valar, and I cant figure out what they're doing! The Ainur of the undying lands invervened in matters of middle-earth only a few times, such as causing the destrucion of Numenor (not strictly middle earth) and the chaining of Melkor&destruction of Angband. This is because, in general, they dont want to imterfere with middle earth, and leave as much as possible to the actual people of middle earth.
But in the case of the war of the ring, they apeared to make a considerably lacklustre approach to stopping Sauron. They didn't deem the case of the rings important enough to intervene themselves (manwe, tulkas & co could have kicked saurons arse and shoved his ring up it in about 5 seconds flat), but instead they sent 5 maiar (the Istari) over to try and solve the problem themselves, which would clearly take hundreds of years longer, cause countless deaths, and a lot of bother. If they considered it important enough for their intervention, why not do it properly and take matters into their own hands? Not that Im insulting the Ainur of Aman, nor Gandalf and the Istari - it just seems like a lot of bother when they could have sorted it out right away.

If anyone has any opinions on this, please reply.

Bombariffic

12-29-2002, 01:07 PM	#1
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	Those Crazy Ainur... Hello all, I was thinking about the Istari (as you do), and about the few interventions manwe and his fellow valar, and I cant figure out what they're doing! The Ainur of the undying lands invervened in matters of middle-earth only a few times, such as causing the destrucion of Numenor (not strictly middle earth) and the chaining of Melkor&destruction of Angband. This is because, in general, they dont want to imterfere with middle earth, and leave as much as possible to the actual people of middle earth. But in the case of the war of the ring, they apeared to make a considerably lacklustre approach to stopping Sauron. They didn't deem the case of the rings important enough to intervene themselves (manwe, tulkas & co could have kicked saurons arse and shoved his ring up it in about 5 seconds flat), but instead they sent 5 maiar (the Istari) over to try and solve the problem themselves, which would clearly take hundreds of years longer, cause countless deaths, and a lot of bother. If they considered it important enough for their intervention, why not do it properly and take matters into their own hands? Not that Im insulting the Ainur of Aman, nor Gandalf and the Istari - it just seems like a lot of bother when they could have sorted it out right away. If anyone has any opinions on this, please reply. Bombariffic __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.