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Old 05-03-2006, 10:58 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by mormegil
Where is SpM?
I’m here. Sorry that I wasn’t able to make it earler, but it’s been a hectic day in the fields. Lots of crows to deal with. I was hoping to get on during my lunch-hour, but unfortunately didn’t have time.

I suppose we are still left with the possibility that Mith was the Goose. But I just don’t see it. Her claim throughout seemed the more credible to me. And Glirdan as Goose is not so far-fetched as Nogrod would have it. The Goose’s job is to cause confusion and mislead the village, by his own death if necessary. Glirdan, if the Goose, has certainly achieved that, even if he did unwittingly name a Duck (presumably believing her to be innocent).

By my reckoning, therefore, Glirdan was the Goose, Mith the true Owl, and Valier is innocent. Per Nogrod’s theory, we cannot regard Valier completely as such, but I see it as extremely unlikely that she’s a Duck.

Which leaves morm, Cailin, Kath and Nogrod (As far as I am concerned, at least).

Mormegil I have strongly suspected for a number of days now. My reasoning from yesterday stands. And I am concerned over his seeming eagerness to lynch Kath today. He uses Kath’s voting record against her, yet his own also looks suspicious to me. He has voted twice for known Ducks, participating in their lynching, which speaks in his favour on the face of it. Yet not if the circumstances in which those votes were cast is taken into account. On Day 2, he voted for spawn following Glirdan’s declaration. Since, following that declaration, she was almost certainly going to be lynched, it was an astute vote for a Duck. On Day 3, he voted for Jenny when it was all but certain that either he or she would be lynched. If he is a Duck, he really had no choice but to vote for her. He may have thought that two Duck-on-Duck votes would be sufficient to clear him of suspicion. I don't think that they do, because each was a logical vote for a Duck at the time that it was cast. So, morm still tops my suspicion list.

Cailín has come to represent something of a problem for me. I can see little to suggest that she is a Duck and have assumed her innocent ‘til now. Yet I am also wary of the dangers of assuming someone innocent. Indeed, it is in some ways easier for a Duck to appear innocent than a villager, since the villagers are usually stumbling around in the dark, often drawing the wrong conclusions, while Ducks have the advantage of knowing who’s innocent. We should not discount her (nor, indeed, her alter ego, non-Cailín).

Kath’s voting record does look suspicious, given that, on Days 1, 2 and 3, she voted for someone other than the Duck that was lynched. But would a Duck be so careless as to allow this to happen three Days running, thus drawing (as it has) undue attention to her? On Day 2, her vote was cast after Glirdan’s declaration, when it looked likely that spawn would be lynched. Her best vote, as a Duck, would surely have been for spawn. I do not discount her as a Duck, but her voting pattern might equally be that of a misguided innocent. And, other than her voting record, I can see nothing to suggest that she’s a Duck.

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Originally Posted by mormegil
Kath ... you find trivial matters and try and use them against others, me ususually, and do it at a time when you can add fuel to the mormegil fire.
Morm, would you mind providing some examples? This is not something that has been apparent to me.

Nogrod I suspected yesterday as a possible Duck for the apparent change in his behaviour after Day 1. His continued speculation that Mith may have been the Goose may, if he is a Duck, be designed to confuse. Certainly, I do not understand his point about Glirdan’s behaviour being strange for a Goose. From where I am standing, it looks like classic Goose behaviour to me. And it would, of course, be in the Duck’s best interests to add Valier back into the mix as a possible Duck.

Valier, as I have said, I am regarding as innocent, unless anything happens to persuade me of the contrary.

All of which leaves me in rather a quandary …
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