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alatar · 05-03-2006, 08:46 AM

Long time no see,
Short time for you and me.
So fine, so good.
We're on the road
Like you knew we would.

First night, so long,
A state of mind.
What can go wrong?
We're here, the time is right
To rock 'n' roll
Right through the night. "Gemini Dreams" by the Moody Blues

We now begin Disk #2.

We see our merry troop of Rohirrim and guests traipsing across the mountain paths on their way to that terrible fastness of Helm’s Deep. This is not a war party, but mainly the inhabitants of Edoras sprinkled lightly with some warriors. Gimli tells us some secrets about the dwarves, and we have a nice laugh about his better halves.

But don’t get too comfortable in your seat. PJ won’t take that intelligent dwarven humor lying down. Gimli takes a short ride to Dirtsville - hardy har har! If my knee were but a little higher from the ground, I would slap it. Okay, if dwarves were truly to spring from the ground then Gimli might be displaying mating behavior, like when turkeys get all fluffed up and scratch about.

Éowyn, laughing not at the falling dwarf but at his earlier statements thaws for a brief Spring from her wintry self.

Aragorn smiles, though they are going to war in that fortress voted “Worst Structure in Which to Withstand an Uruk Attack” (The Wise Daily, circa 3018), they’ve lost their wizard friend, another wizard is after them, Gimli’s axe goes flying off (luckily not hitting any of the civilians) and there ain’t much hope - and did we mention family problems? I guess as a warrior you just have to live for the moment.

Théoden confesses his sins to Aragorn while telling us why Éowyn suffers thus. The shots of her show her as an attainable beauty, not the ethereal unapproachable visage of Arwen.

At the camp we see Éowyn try to give soup to Gimli, who quickly turns down the offer. Seemingly he has some knowledge of her cooking, and it must be bad fare indeed for a cram-eating dirt-diving dwarf to turn it down. She then approaches Aragorn with the same offer, and he accepts it with more grace. She, like the children of Bob Cratchit, awaits his opinion of the gruel. He visibly has trouble swallowing the swill and hopes that somehow his elvish cloak - or better, the One Ring - would allow his to simply disappear that he might retch in peace.

“It’s good.”

Momentarily satisfied, she turns to leave and Aragorn condemns the brothy mash to the grasses. Quickly he stops as Éowyn turns to ask another question, and the stew burns his hands. Serves you right for lying to the young princess maiden! Just how will she ever learn to cook properly if everyone hides the truth from her?

And, just an aside, but why are we spending so many minutes on the swordmaiden’s lack of culinary arts?

We learn that Aragorn is no ordinary manly man, but one of those Dúnedain, blessed with long life and cast-iron stomachs. Éowyn gets some history then gets to watch another ‘yes man’ eat her intentionally bad stew. “We Rohirrim do not lie, and are not then easily deceived. And we always have the "Trial by Stew Consumption…”

Later, Aragorn enjoys some pipeweed as he considers removing his own appendix. He was just starting to like Éowyn too, but then remembers how well that elf maid could cook. He drifts off to that place we call dreams, but that seemingly are not just dreams for elves. He and Arwen kiss, and she tries to put him back to sleep, but troubles lay on the future king’s mind. He sees that they have come to the place where their paths will split apart forever. Arwen reassures him that it need not be so, and for him to trust in the Evenstar and in their love.

The movie has taken a romantic turn, and there’s more kissing. At least we know why Lord Elrond was willing to send the One Ring anywhere in Middle Earth as long as it left Rivendell.

“Gotta get that barefoot Dúnedain out of my house and away from my daughter.”

PJ shows us the differences in mortal and immortal women, and Aragorn’s choices. Isn’t it interesting though that we did not have one Arwen dream during the FotR’s travels from Rivendell to Edoras? Anyway…

When Aragorn returns from his dream we find him walking to Helm’s Deep, and the woman now at his side is the very astute Éowyn, who asks from whom he received the Evenstar (pretty cool that she knew that it wasn’t some heirloom or gift from Gilraen. We see Elrond (“Dad”) and Aragorn in flashback, discussing the fate of Aragorn’s and Arwen’s love. Elrond wants his daughter to remember the fling in the undying lands where they will be safe from the onslaught that surely will come from Mordor (thanks for thinking positive, big guy!). Aragorn states that she stays for him and for the life that they two may yet have together on these eastern shores. That and maybe she’s just tired of Daddy’s Isildur rants.

Elrond is none too happy. Any married guy see his father-in-law in this scene? Hey…they come around eventually.

We see Aragorn, member of the newly minted Fellowship of the Ring, try to slip out at the first light. Arwen catches him, and he pretty much tells her that he’s not going to call. Ever. It was a dream, a gorgeous mistake…let’s be friends, gotta go to war, I’ll call, etc.

We know, however, that Aragorn here is being very honorable. He loves Arwen, and wants her to be safe and happy and free, even if it means that he can never see her again. That’s what loves all about - putting someone else before yourself. She thinks that he’s lying, bluffing, but then he goes to return the Evenstar, but she will not take back her gift.

Great romantic scene, and I think that it takes place on the same bridge on which we saw them kiss on FotR. Are they reversed (can’t remember) where now Arwen is on the left side?

Aragorn returns again to the present, and he answers Éowyn. With Arwen sailing West, is Éowyn now a contender for Aragorn’s heart? We shall see what Spring will bring.

05-03-2006, 08:46 AM	#1
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	LotR2-TTT-Seq12 Long time no see, Short time for you and me. So fine, so good. We're on the road Like you knew we would. First night, so long, A state of mind. What can go wrong? We're here, the time is right To rock 'n' roll Right through the night. "Gemini Dreams" by the Moody Blues We now begin Disk #2. We see our merry troop of Rohirrim and guests traipsing across the mountain paths on their way to that terrible fastness of Helm’s Deep. This is not a war party, but mainly the inhabitants of Edoras sprinkled lightly with some warriors. Gimli tells us some secrets about the dwarves, and we have a nice laugh about his better halves. But don’t get too comfortable in your seat. PJ won’t take that intelligent dwarven humor lying down. Gimli takes a short ride to Dirtsville - hardy har har! If my knee were but a little higher from the ground, I would slap it. Okay, if dwarves were truly to spring from the ground then Gimli might be displaying mating behavior, like when turkeys get all fluffed up and scratch about. Éowyn, laughing not at the falling dwarf but at his earlier statements thaws for a brief Spring from her wintry self. Aragorn smiles, though they are going to war in that fortress voted “Worst Structure in Which to Withstand an Uruk Attack” (The Wise Daily, circa 3018), they’ve lost their wizard friend, another wizard is after them, Gimli’s axe goes flying off (luckily not hitting any of the civilians) and there ain’t much hope - and did we mention family problems? I guess as a warrior you just have to live for the moment. Théoden confesses his sins to Aragorn while telling us why Éowyn suffers thus. The shots of her show her as an attainable beauty, not the ethereal unapproachable visage of Arwen. At the camp we see Éowyn try to give soup to Gimli, who quickly turns down the offer. Seemingly he has some knowledge of her cooking, and it must be bad fare indeed for a cram-eating dirt-diving dwarf to turn it down. She then approaches Aragorn with the same offer, and he accepts it with more grace. She, like the children of Bob Cratchit, awaits his opinion of the gruel. He visibly has trouble swallowing the swill and hopes that somehow his elvish cloak - or better, the One Ring - would allow his to simply disappear that he might retch in peace. “It’s good.” Momentarily satisfied, she turns to leave and Aragorn condemns the brothy mash to the grasses. Quickly he stops as Éowyn turns to ask another question, and the stew burns his hands. Serves you right for lying to the young princess maiden! Just how will she ever learn to cook properly if everyone hides the truth from her? And, just an aside, but why are we spending so many minutes on the swordmaiden’s lack of culinary arts? We learn that Aragorn is no ordinary manly man, but one of those Dúnedain, blessed with long life and cast-iron stomachs. Éowyn gets some history then gets to watch another ‘yes man’ eat her intentionally bad stew. “We Rohirrim do not lie, and are not then easily deceived. And we always have the "Trial by Stew Consumption…” Later, Aragorn enjoys some pipeweed as he considers removing his own appendix. He was just starting to like Éowyn too, but then remembers how well that elf maid could cook. He drifts off to that place we call dreams, but that seemingly are not just dreams for elves. He and Arwen kiss, and she tries to put him back to sleep, but troubles lay on the future king’s mind. He sees that they have come to the place where their paths will split apart forever. Arwen reassures him that it need not be so, and for him to trust in the Evenstar and in their love. The movie has taken a romantic turn, and there’s more kissing. At least we know why Lord Elrond was willing to send the One Ring anywhere in Middle Earth as long as it left Rivendell. “Gotta get that barefoot Dúnedain out of my house and away from my daughter.” PJ shows us the differences in mortal and immortal women, and Aragorn’s choices. Isn’t it interesting though that we did not have one Arwen dream during the FotR’s travels from Rivendell to Edoras? Anyway… When Aragorn returns from his dream we find him walking to Helm’s Deep, and the woman now at his side is the very astute Éowyn, who asks from whom he received the Evenstar (pretty cool that she knew that it wasn’t some heirloom or gift from Gilraen. We see Elrond (“Dad”) and Aragorn in flashback, discussing the fate of Aragorn’s and Arwen’s love. Elrond wants his daughter to remember the fling in the undying lands where they will be safe from the onslaught that surely will come from Mordor (thanks for thinking positive, big guy!). Aragorn states that she stays for him and for the life that they two may yet have together on these eastern shores. That and maybe she’s just tired of Daddy’s Isildur rants. Elrond is none too happy. Any married guy see his father-in-law in this scene? Hey…they come around eventually. We see Aragorn, member of the newly minted Fellowship of the Ring, try to slip out at the first light. Arwen catches him, and he pretty much tells her that he’s not going to call. Ever. It was a dream, a gorgeous mistake…let’s be friends, gotta go to war, I’ll call, etc. We know, however, that Aragorn here is being very honorable. He loves Arwen, and wants her to be safe and happy and free, even if it means that he can never see her again. That’s what loves all about - putting someone else before yourself. She thinks that he’s lying, bluffing, but then he goes to return the Evenstar, but she will not take back her gift. Great romantic scene, and I think that it takes place on the same bridge on which we saw them kiss on FotR. Are they reversed (can’t remember) where now Arwen is on the left side? Aragorn returns again to the present, and he answers Éowyn. With Arwen sailing West, is Éowyn now a contender for Aragorn’s heart? We shall see what Spring will bring. __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.